Summary

Vivek Ramaswamy, recently appointed to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has proposed defunding federal programs that lack current congressional authorization.

This could affect programs like veterans’ healthcare, NASA, and early education initiatives, which still receive funding despite expired authorizations.

Ramaswamy argues that cutting these programs could save billions, and he’s committed to targeting expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”

DOGE, co-led by Elon Musk, aims to curb government spending, with Musk estimating potential cuts of up to $2 trillion.

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    As someone with just as much federal authority as the non-existent DOGE, I also propose defunding expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”

    And I would like to start with fucking Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon fucking Musk.

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      as equal authority, I propose we just lock them up.

      I’m sure we can find something to actually justify it. Like, you know, betraying classified secrets to the russians, as well as providing intelligence and military aid;

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        If we’re all just doing things without authority, why does it even need a legalized justification? Home Depot sells dog cages and padlocks.

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          Because kidnapping is one thing and seeing them convicted is another.

          I want him convicted in a court of law. Legitimately.

          All of these stupid fucks, to be clear. Musk. Trump. Vivek. There’s a long list of assholes that need some justice.

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            I want him convicted in a court of law. Legitimately.

            And I want a pet pig that flies. There’s nothing legitimate about how the US courts treat the rich and powerful.

            Even the ones that get convicted tend to go to cushy Club Fed prison resorts unless they mess with the money of other rich and powerful people like Bernie Madoff did.

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          grab a shovel and start digging. Also, bring the tigerbalm, there’s gonna be a lot of nasty shit.

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        Wait long enough, and neither will pass the nationalist purity test. The leopards will turn inwards for face-eating sooner than some fasc-allies think, I suspect

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        if elon lied on immigration forms, strip his citizenship, seize his wealth and assets ‘earned’ after committing that crime, and kick him tf out.

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    As a US citizen, paying for veterans healthcare and early education programs advance my interests a whole fucking lot more than paying this jackass.

    Stupid piece of shit, you don’t speak for us.

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      I know what you mean but he does, quite literally, speak for us now. This is what we asked for.

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        I sure as fuck didn’t, I voted against every single fascist asshole on my balot. I’m just angry.

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          So did I but unfortunately we lost. That’s democracy in action. The country we live in (the collective we) asked for this.

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          Collectively protest the most American way possible. Stop buying anything but the essentials. Don’t cut out life enjoyment, but make sure it’s for as few dollars as possible. This fucks with the supply chains and their precious stocks.

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            I already do that cause I’m broke as shit 😅 most of what I let myself buy is stuff that makes it a little easier to manage my sleep disorder

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    Do it. Cut tricare too. I don’t want those things gone, but holy hell yes please eliminate the willingness of the military to aid you against the constitution. Defund barrack improvements and force married troops to bring their spouses into the barracks while you’re at it.

    Crash and burn and let us rebuild America with an understanding it wasn’t immigrants or trans people that did this, it was rich people and fascists.

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      As a former military child, I largely agree with cutting tricare. It’s pretty good, and military people take for granted that they get socialized Healthcare but not the rest of us. Yeah, “serving the country” and all that, but most military personnel aren’t doing anything that anyone else isn’t doing. Most military personnel are not in combat roles. Everyone should be treated well because everyone benefits the nation. Take away the socialized healthcare of the military and vets and maybe we’ll get socialized healthcare in general.

      I doubt this will work, but it’ll at least force military people to come to terms with the fact they have socialized healthcare and how well it works. My dad at least used to argue with me whenever I called it that. I’m not sure if he still thinks it isn’t true. I’m sure other people haven’t even considered that that’s what it is.

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    Touching NASA very well might be the thing that finally pushes me to actual violence.

    Scientific endeavors, but specifically research and exploration of space are pretty much the only things in life I really have a passion for.

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        you’ll know nasa is doomed when space-lasers greene or flat earth boebert get tagged for nasa admin.

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          At least in that case, we could look forward to one of them saying something dumb like, “The moon is fake, it’s not like I could actually go there.” NASA leadership could launch a mission to send them to the moon to prove it real and just go, “Oops, we missed. Darn thing moved on us.”

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      The last conservative government silenced the government scientists from discussing climate change and destroyed decades of research as they didn’t believe in it and it didn’t fit their Alberta oil jobs first objectives.

      We are looking at another Conservative government coming our way again in the next year and it’s going to be a super shit storm when our Cons and the US Cons are firing on all cylinders destroy everything they don’t like or believe in. I fear it’s going to take decades again to come back on the science again.

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      NASA is and has always been a way for the US to maintain a literal military high ground. If it gets defunded, I don’t think you’ll have to resort to violence, our rivals will do it for us.

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      Back in the day they funded NASA because they were worried about being eclipsed by the USSR. Now they may worry about belong eclipsed by China. But yes they might move a shit ton to spacex.

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    Any woman or veteran or union worker who voted for Trump is going to have a serious case of buyers remorse. I am none of those things but still voted for Harris because it seemed like the responsible thing to do, lesser of two evils. Way lesser it seems.

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    America: Our soldiers are heroes!

    Also America: But they don’t deserve a penny and should pay exorbitant prices for healthcare…

    I know this isn’t all Americans, but it’s more than I thought.

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    Elon musk being like “all that money we’re spending on vets could be going into my pockets.”

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    Remember when if you didn’t “support our troops,” Republicans would ask you why you hated America?

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    This will piss off every single veteran, active service member, and their relatives. I don’t just want this shit to fail, I want people to remember just how little fucks these people give about anyone other than themselves.

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      I want to see these fucks do this then ask for the military to keep them in office when they violate the constitution

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        I kinda have lost faith in most of humanity. At this point I think they will follow orders without question while fully knowing that they will be thrown aside like a moldy bag of garbage as soon as their usefulness is done.

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      If you hear back well they did not realize… you answer with yes, this is how little they care

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    This is amazing. Good. Fuck the troops. Let’s see you garrison your military bases in every other country in the world, losers. You can’t even meet recruiting goals now!

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    The clown is inviting more clowns and they are building up the circus, this could be funny if it wasn’t so serious.

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    “This bloated liberal socialist program is inefficient and doesn’t work. Because it’s liberal and socialist. So we’re going to get rid of it. We’re planing to plan a replacement plan, but we haven’t planned on when to plan it. But we’ll blame the libs for that too, even though we have essentially captured all branches of the government at this point.”

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      They’ve learned their lesson from 4 years of failure to repeal and replace Obamacare. “Replacing was hard and expensive and anything that addresses people’s concerns or doesn’t ensure failure to re-elect was to the left of this, so we’ve decided to just repeal and not replace. Get over it loser.”

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    Part of me, as an outsider looking in with abject horror, wants to see this happen just because I still hold out hope that it might finally wake up a not-insignificant part of rural and rust-belt America that live off these benefits (or ‘handouts’ according to the GOP) out of their political stupor.

    But on the other hand, I know that once it’s gone, it’s very unlikely to be brought back in the immediate future by the current crop of Dems, who seemingly would rather keep dangling it as a carrot (along with restoring ablation access) in order to entice voter turnout.

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      If it’s gone it’s gone. Those people in rural America who live off handouts and vote R can live with the long term consequences. The only way you will see a change is if they are no longer insulated from the consequences of their actions. Fox News Propaganda is going to be spinning itself in circles to justify why their “gubment program” was ended under Trump.

      Perhaps they will vote blue in the future and we will have enough of a majority that more liberal policies can be enacted.

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    I expected NASA to get screwed by DOGE. What I didn’t expect was that it’s at the behest of Ramaswamy instead of Elmo. 2024 is defying expectations yet again.

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      NASA gives SpaceX fat government paychecks. He doesn’t want anything to happen to them.

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        I dunno I disagree. I think he’d like nothing more than if NASA just completely disappeared. I’ve thought that since the second they started talking about him guiding fiduciary spending. Once NASA is out of the picture, it’s all SpaceX all the time. Trump is already most of the way there anyway. “His rocket company is the only reason we can now send American astronauts into space.”

        This is part of the plan I suspect.

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          Yep he doesn’t want NASA to steal his thunder with the first manned moon landing since the Apollo program. NASA’s Orion is competing directly with SpaceX

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            I don’t think he actually cares much about achieving anything spaceflight related. The guy has been hyping up his companies by holding big events for technologies ready in “X years” and consistently failing to deliver on either deadlines, tangible progress, quality, or sometimes all three of those.

            I’m under the impression that E-con Musk sees a golden opportunity to use his undeserved status as a competent inventor and businessman as an opportunity to redirect government funds into his own pocket.

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        Not necessarily. He wouldn’t want anything to happen to the funding that ends up going to himself. He would likely be thrilled if their funding for designing and building their own rockets dried up, though.

        It’s right in line with the purpose of DOGE and an easy sell to anybody that doesn’t immediately see the conflict of interest: “Why are we spending $100 million annually to play catch-up with the private sector? Reallocate $80 million to get rockets that work today and save the taxpayers $20 million while doing it.”