Summary
The Justice Department urged the Supreme Court to reject Donald Trump’s request to delay a law banning TikTok or forcing its sale by Jan. 19, 2025.
TikTok’s parent, ByteDance, claims the ban violates First Amendment rights, but the DOJ argued the law targets foreign ownership, not free speech, and passes constitutional scrutiny.
Trump, despite opposing a ban publicly, asked the Court to extend the deadline to seek a political resolution.
The Supreme Court will hear arguments on Jan. 10, with the ban set to take effect before Trump’s inauguration.
With all the bullshit that’s about to go down, I’m having trouble caring about this anymore. All these social media platforms are data harvesting dumpster fires. Eliminating this one isn’t going to do much, except probably put a bunch of Americans out of business.
It’s more broligarchy bullshit. Probably a bribe from Yass to Trump to protect Yass’s investment. Trump is the Billionaire’s lackey.
In the pitched battle between TikTok and Washington, few people stand to lose more than Jeff Yass, an American billionaire options trader who has emerged in recent years as a major donor to Republican candidates and causes.
Yass co-founded the Philadelphia-based trading firm Susquehanna International Group, which owns a 15% stake in TikTok’s China-based parent company, ByteDance. Yass’ personal share is 7%, worth roughly $21 billion.
China will promote the one who will degrade U.S. power best. You think he is going to deep six one of his best supporters and allies?
Eh this is the one social media that the oligarchs can’t censor so I’m fine with it sticking around. I’d rather have options than Elon and Zuck controlling the majority methods for average joes to get information out. Cause it doesn’t seem like the fediverse is going mainstream for a while
What evidence do you have that oligarchs in any nation cannot influence your TikTok algorithm? Like… we should assume they can by default until proven innocent.
Even if it’s just a competing team of oligarchs fighting over who can produce the most amount of animosity and mistrust of the other, they’re going to accidentally stumble across some shit that the other one doesn’t want you to see and then they’ll show it to you.
It turns out we don’t have any way of getting clean unbiased sources so the best we can do is just have a lot of different ones with different biases since there is no such thing as clean public media anymore.
…except probably put a bunch of Americans out of business.
If you mean “influencers” or the ultra wealthy, then good. They deserve to go out of business.
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political activists/commentators, particularly ones who speak out against the fascist apartheid regime of Israel and the genocide it’s committing. Such speech is heavily censored on the American owned major social media platforms for reasons as obvious as they’re infuriating.
Comedians, singers, and other performers who benefit from the exposure to potential audiences. Especially ones who would be censored on the other platforms for the above reason or others.
The algorithm and spying is awful, sure, but not any worse than the American ones that cooperate with other totalitarian governments such as those of Russia, India, Israel, Hungary etc with impunity approaching that of Israel.
The main REAL difference between Tiktok and the other platforms is that it doesn’t suppress anti-genocide speech, which is inconvenient to a political class where the vast majority is under the sway of AIPAC and other de facto Israeli government entities.
Ban all social media.
Nah, much better to regulate their behavior and then actually ENFORCE the laws and regulations.
It’s a weird one, China’s constant hacking attempts seem annoying, but then their consumer products sold in America are generally decent because they want to sell goods. So it makes one think, in China, are American products suspect because America tries to spy on them constantly? Have we hacked their entire telecom infra and they run news campaigns about how Evil America Broke The Phones? Is this a scenario where these large dominant power nations all do the same crap to each other but purport to their own citizens that they’re actually the good guys?
From there then, which would a citizen of a nation-state really trust? The software written by their own companies, with their own internal state-sponsored censorship and spying? Or that of another nation-state? Seems in almost every case, using the software from the other nation-state would actually allow more “freedom” - which is…weird to contemplate.
One exception I can think of, was that Kaspersky was very good antimalware software, but I caught it on several occasions completely blind to Russian malware software. Other AV software caught it, but Kaspersky just went deer-in-headlights and let it pass through. So perhaps, this isn’t a black-and-white scenario.
In the case of social medias though, I’d say, consume as many different sources as one can. Sum up and divide to get the average. Likely, somewhere in there is where the actual truth lies.
put a bunch of Americans out of business
That would also be true for rational gun regulations, universal healthcare, and responsible climate policies.
Shut up Merrick you goddamn coward fuck. You had four fucking years to actually do your job, you can’t just pretend you weren’t sucking the wannabe mango Mussolini’s dick this whole time.
I suppose it all depends on who donates more to his inauguration fund.
He fucking asked for it during his first mandate!
The difference is Russia knows how to manipulate Tik Tok now, as recent events in Romania have made abundantly clear. They no doubt used it to help Trump get elected.
Primarily due to kids fucking with his rallies. But now Dems decided to risk the income of a few million Americans and the circuses of a couple hundred million Americans for no real reason. So it’s an easy political win for Trump if he can stop it, while of course enriching himself and his donors that have stakes in bytedance.
Sorry, “a few million Americans” make their money from TikTok? When did this start?
There’s a shop. TikTok is the modern Etsy, where you can literally watch your product get made.
That sounds like it would be a minor side hustle for a few hundred thousand people and a major source of income for maybe a couple of hundred at most. I doubt it’s a few million.
I doubt it’s in the millions too, but it’s definitely a significant number, not just a handful of people.
…have you never heard of influencers, the number one job kids want to do when they grow up in every poll done on the matter since 2012?
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For no reason? China is using TikTok to derail elections in entire countries and promote civil strive everywhere by radicalising people against each other, while its Chinese counterpart is almost an educational app. TikTok is not a social media app, it’s the psyops equivalent of a nuclear weapon.
You have evidence for this now? Did I miss where evidence other than, “trust us”, was released?
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Is it truly so hard to believe that a service that literally crafts content to deliver to you on a person/demographic basis that is owned by a competitive state would be used to deliver narratives and ideas that erode the stability and well being of the other states?
Romania, US elections are perfect examples of this, but the danger has been here for awhile now.
How naive can you be? TikTok ain’t shit, it’s literally just a fucking video hosting service, you think only Xi and China can serve you an endless stream of slop, 10 seconds at a time?
Grow up, open your eyes. Seeing a threat for what it is doesn’t mean you would literally agree with Hitler (nice logical fallacy btw)
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Garland desperate to be remembered for succeeding at anything even if it’s just banning fucking TikTok
Anyone still urging out there is delusional
