I feel like the courts hands were tied here. How do you put a man who was just elected to be the next president in prison, or even on probation? Ultimately, the decision was made by the American voters.
That being said, even if Trump had lost this election, he still probably wouldn’t have done any time in prison, since he still would have been a former president, and that would have been a tricky enough situation.
Like I want Trump locked up, along with any politician who claimed the election was stolen.
But the fact is, the orange shit won 2024 and in 9 days (uuuugh) will fully pardon himself making any punishment nullified be the president again (thanks for the correction, he can’t pardon himself from state charges.
If the various governments actually wanted to punish Trump (they don’t, unfortunately) they would have actually done something and took advantage of the FOUR FUCKING YEARS that there was a possibility of their cases making any impact at all.
Our broken justice system is slower than our corrupt political cycle, which lets those in power do whatever they want.
He has no legal power to pardon state crimes. He can say whatever he wants. But if NY had given him a prison sentence it wouldn’t stop them from coming to get him.
That’s different. This is a game of what he can physically do. If he told a NY State police officer they were fired it would have no effect. If he told an FBI agent they were fired they’re going to go pack up their desk.
I would. Even if it was “sentence is delayed 4years and 12 days.” Try to be fair and serve justice and let the bad guys be the ones to work on how to disrupt the rule of law further.
It would not collapse. If prison made being president impossible then we would just use his Vice President. Being the replacement is 90 percent of their job.
I don’t know how you can be so certain, but you could be right. It doesn’t make any difference, though, because that’s not what’s happening. Trump isn’t going to prison. If there’s something you think you can do to change that, go for it.
Oh I know what’s actually happening. I also know all of the justifications they’re using to defend this example of sheer corruption are themselves utterly morally bankrupt. You cannot have a democracy without accountability.
I don’t know why you think they give a rats ass about morality or democracy. I suppose because they say they value those things? I guess you’ve never heard of this thing people do called lying.
I feel like the courts hands were tied here. How do you put a man who was just elected to be the next president in prison, or even on probation? Ultimately, the decision was made by the American voters.
That being said, even if Trump had lost this election, he still probably wouldn’t have done any time in prison, since he still would have been a former president, and that would have been a tricky enough situation.
Never know until we try.
I don’t think we can, honestly.
Like I want Trump locked up, along with any politician who claimed the election was stolen.
But the fact is, the orange shit won 2024 and in 9 days (uuuugh) will
fully pardon himself making any punishment nullifiedbe the president again (thanks for the correction, he can’t pardon himself from state charges.If the various governments actually wanted to punish Trump (they don’t, unfortunately) they would have actually done something and took advantage of the FOUR FUCKING YEARS that there was a possibility of their cases making any impact at all.
Our broken justice system is slower than our corrupt political cycle, which lets those in power do whatever they want.
He cannot pardon himself from state charges.
He cannot… His many things is this now that he just did anyways?
He has no legal power to pardon state crimes. He can say whatever he wants. But if NY had given him a prison sentence it wouldn’t stop them from coming to get him.
He can fire anyone who says he can’t.
He can’t fire NY State employees, or any state employees.
He can’t also do felonies and run a coup and get away with it after being founs guilty.
That’s different. This is a game of what he can physically do. If he told a NY State police officer they were fired it would have no effect. If he told an FBI agent they were fired they’re going to go pack up their desk.
See the difference?
Yeah, but you can see why people who don’t want to see the US federal government potentially collapse into chaos wouldn’t want to try it, right?
I can’t get into that mindset anymore. Let it burn.
I would. Even if it was “sentence is delayed 4years and 12 days.” Try to be fair and serve justice and let the bad guys be the ones to work on how to disrupt the rule of law further.
I know, but clearly not everyone would, and those are the people making the decision.
It would not collapse. If prison made being president impossible then we would just use his Vice President. Being the replacement is 90 percent of their job.
I don’t know how you can be so certain, but you could be right. It doesn’t make any difference, though, because that’s not what’s happening. Trump isn’t going to prison. If there’s something you think you can do to change that, go for it.
Oh I know what’s actually happening. I also know all of the justifications they’re using to defend this example of sheer corruption are themselves utterly morally bankrupt. You cannot have a democracy without accountability.
I don’t know why you think they give a rats ass about morality or democracy. I suppose because they say they value those things? I guess you’ve never heard of this thing people do called lying.
Yeah but if you don’t call it out then people will think this is normal.
Exactly the same as every other person. Nobody should be above the law.
Well you start by arresting him and you end by keeping him in prison until the end of his sentence.
Seems pretty simple to me.