Summary
Americans are posting videos about 3D-printed guns on the Chinese video app RedNote, despite the content being illegal in China.
While some users are uncomfortable with the topic, others see it as an opportunity for cultural exchange.
The future of TikTok remains uncertain as the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the ban.
As much as I hate people going to an even more security disaster of an app, the amount of “fuck you” energy I’ve been seeing from everyone that’s moved over there is so god damn funny.
Now do Tiananmen Square.
I have been told that China pushes NO PROPAGNADA on RedNote because they have a NO POLITICS policy.
And the person who told me that did not see the issue.
Now do &%$!@$+×# &%;%$.
Second time I’ve seen this in a day. Wow what are you guys talking about?
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Idk why you americans think that you have soo muuuch freedom, lol. You can talk about Tiananmen square, sure, and that somehow suffice to make y’all think you live in an utopian country with unlimited freedom, lol
Not sure who is saying any of that, seems like you’re jumping to conclusions that no one has said
Also as a southern American I’d appreciate it if you stopped saying y’all, it’s cultural appropriation
Every language has been culturally appropriated from another.
Bless your heart.
Idk, that was just the vibe i was feeling. And since when “y’all” is cultural appropriation? Or are you ironic? I’m not sure
Delusional much?
Me? How so?
It’s not my job to educate you
It may not be a utopian country with unlimited freedom, but at the end of the day we are still more free than China with the insane focus on our policies and problems.
You should travel more.
I travel quite a bit.
americans and bringing guns places they absolutely shouldn’t be, name a better duo
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i made a joke
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oh my bad then your joke seemed confrontational and i still don’t get it but i apologize
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damn removed by mod your joke must have been rly bad 😜
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Tiananmen Square is like, a huge tourist attraction and plaza near their equivalent of the White House and other important government complexes I’m sure they’ve seen a ton of photos of it. They hold national events there.
You know that’s not what they mean.
But sure, you go ahead and post this “tourist” photo on RedNote and see what happens. Please do report back to us.
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No, I don’t think we would get along since you both blame me in specific for something the entire moderation team across the entire server has been told to do and for upholding Lemmy.world’s Terms of Service so that illegal things to say in The Netherlands don’t get the server shut down.
Sorry, I don’t get along with people who blame me for things like that, but I wonder what you would say if I died tomorrow and those comments still got moderated (since they absolutely would)? Blame my ghost?
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And, there are two sides sweetie, for or against the ruling class.
I see you’re still enjoying your white and heterosexual privilege.
When are you going to give me that legitimate email address?
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If that’s all he was, please post it there and tell us what happens.
Did you post it yet? What happened?
Eh, not public ally. They would have cuffed him, put him in the back of a cruiser upside down without a seatbelt on and left him to suffocate or something.
Look man, I just don’t see why my 6 year old shouldn’t be able to bring his sawed off in his back pack. If someone tries to shoot up the school he’ll be able to defend his class. I always tell him to keep 1 chambered just in case.
China mods:
I was not ready for this flavor of shitposting
3D printed guns are a meme. Most of them require parts of functional guns such as the barrels, And they require regular ammunition.
Electro chemical machining can make a barrel.
But, idk how any of what you said makes them a “meme”. You can buy a barrel online for cheap, also ammo, and I don’t have to go through a government check. That’s what a lot of these people want to avoid.
In most countries, the barrel or other pressures bearing parts are the regulated piece. We are the weird ones for regulating receivers instead.
Well, the article references Americans, I’m American, so okay?
Europeans can also get guns mailed to their front door, are we just comparing gun laws?
Europeans can also get guns mailed to their front door, are we just comparing gun laws?
I mean, there’s a lot of context surrounding licensing and pre-approval to get that mail order heater in Europe. Local laws vary, yadda yadda
And if you collect old guns and have a C&R license, you too can get guns delivered to your door in America.
In the UK you can also purchase a pistol with bitcoin on the dark web and have it delivered to a train station locker, but that is not legal at all.
This sounds interesting. Tell us more.
Oh yeah, 1000%. Also, with a C&R license, you’re not legally purchasing a “firearm”. It’s a curio or relic, but yeah, point still stands.
Also, none of that has anything to do with the discussion at hand, which was sorta my point.
I have my 03-FFL, and “Curio & Relic” is a classification that firearms can fall into, defined as firearms manufactured 50-years or more ago. Legally, by definition, you are still purchasing a firearm. You’ve just had more background checks to bypass some of the rules in most states about transfers, if the firearm you are buying qualifies as a “Curio & Relic”.
Cool man
It mentions sending videos about them to China. Where most of those videos are useless because the parts and ammo are not sold there.
Okay so a lot of work to create the barrel, but the gun still takes 9mm ammunition. And if someone in China can get their hands on ammo they can get their hands on a gun.
Okay? I don’t know what you’re arguing here? 3D printed guns aren’t a meme. Some don’t require any regulated parts. I don’t care if the average Chinese person can or will get their hands on one. You can just say you didn’t know what you were talking about when you said 3d printed guns are a “meme”. It’s not that deep
Electro chemical machining can make a barrel.
Yes, but that’s not 3d printing any more.
It’s a separate process requiring separate tools, materials and skills.
But you can make anything with that additional process. SO it’s going to be difficult for a government to lock down those additional processes.
I can make barrels and stuff like that on a milling machine and a lathe. Not just shitty parts but better than most big manufacturers put out. Government can’t control manufacturing.
Still not 3d printing.
edit: Typo
Barrels require rifling. It is fairly difficult to manually create the groove as it requires a lot of tooling. Not impossible. But not something people will do to create a single gun. Only the barrel would be more work than assembling the rest of the gun.
Purchased ammo and other parts are specific to the US. 3D printed guns give people the illusion that they can make the entire gun using a 3d printer and off the shelf consumer parts. But most 3d printed guns are made by buying all the required metal parts for guns and printing out the exterior.
All you need is a hydraulic tube for the barrel. to make the rifling you need some copper wire, electricity and water
I’m thinking that an octagonal x-section barrel with a twist could be done by electro-machining.
Yes, that is a lot of tooling and a lot of work.
It’s really not.
The part you can easily print, however, is the receiver.
The receiver is the part that’s legally a firearm. While I think it’s neat I can customize my firearms, I do acknowledge that someone who is prohibited from owning a gun can very easily print a receiver and order the rest of the parts from Palmetto State Armory to get a perfectly-functional firearm without any background check being performed.
I also don’t know the solution to the problem though. As 3D printing, desktop CNC, and other forms of DIY manufacturing improve in quality and decrease in price, it will be very hard to regulate home-brew weapons.
Which you can get without the same screening process for buying an actual gun.
I like my ghost guns intangible as well. /$
If youre an anarchist for fucks sake use a federated platfrom
Name one that isn’t trash lmao
This timeline is quite a ride
The 3D gun thing in China is frickin’ hilarious. Xi and the CCP are gonna go apeshit about that.
if you printed a gun in china, where would you get ammo
Or the metal parts needed to make a “3d printed gun” function as anything other than a random suicide generator.
You can’t print 100% of a functional gun on a consumer printer unless you are willing to accept it blowing up in your hand after a shot or 2.
Not actually true anymore but they’re not very performant.
Fine for a handgun to kill someone up close with, but it’s not like making a machine to dohickey someone a la Abe is very difficult.
If you have a 3d printer, and a bit of electrical know how, you can actually machine most of the metal parts.
Trying to machine parts for a gun with “a bit of electrical know how” sounds like suicide by stupidity to me. Especially if you’re going to DIY the ammo as well…
look, this content isn’t getting censored! it must be because rednote is Good, not that it didn’t have the english speaking moderation resources
It’s funny how when something’s going offline it’s easy for people to just switch apps even if the barrier to switching is extremely high (like having to learn a new language high). Makes it seem almost like…maybe people are fine with the shitty politics on the garbage sites and it isn’t really about the switching costs after all.
You can’t look at switching costs in a vacuum. The real metric is the Expected Return. When the original app is going to remain open, there is a very high risk that, ultimately, most of the users you care about aren’t going to make the switch. Even if the switching costs are low, the ER is negative because the most likely outcome is that you waste your time trying to migrate to a new platform that doesn’t really take off.
When the original app might stop existing then the calculus switches and even a high cost option is worth it because the odds are much higher that your efforts will pay off.
Thanks, professor!
Huh. Didn’t expect that lol
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The US is gonna ban RedNote so fast. Watch and see. A special session of Congress. Matching funds on bribes to the Supreme Court.
They can’t let this go unchecked.
It won’t get banned because it does not directly compete with Facebook. It will however have some changes in China I’m sure.
It’s up to the president now.
The bill basically says, “if the president thinks a foreign government controls an app that could be bad, he can ban it.” Section im referring to: “(2) a social media company that is controlled by a foreign adversary country and determined by the President to present a significant threat to national security”
Actual law: DIVISION H-- PROTECTING AMERICANS FROM FOREIGN ADVERSARY CONTROLLED APPLICATIONS ACT
Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act
(Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok). However, the prohibition does not apply to a covered application that executes a qualified divestiture as determined by the President.
Under the division, a foreign adversary controlled application is an application directly or indirectly operated by (1) ByteDance, Ltd., TikTok, their subsidiaries, successors, related entities they control, or entities controlled by a foreign adversary country; or (2) a social media company that is controlled by a foreign adversary country and determined by the President to present a significant threat to national security. (Here, a social media company excludes any website or application primarily used to post product reviews, business reviews, or travel information and reviews.)
Sidenote: I’m fairly certain that means the law would not allow the President to ban a social media site run via activity pub and hosted by the people, because it is not controlled by a foreign government.
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Americans are posting videos about 3D-printed guns
Cultural Exchange
It’s always cute seeing yanks try and act like one of the big boy countries, talking about their “Culture”
It’s always cute seeing yanks try and act like one of the big boy countries, talking about their “Culture”
Lmao please share which “superior culture” you’re from
One that doesn’t feel the need to defend itself from petty bullshit.
Says the guy who talks exclusively about American culture.
Edit: I really need to read full articles before responding. Sorry.
