• leadore@lemmy.world
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    Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That’s the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.

    Oh HELLLLL no. I hope my 2012 Subaru will last until I’m either dead or too old to drive. I don’t even want to have these damn screens for the usual shit you have to do on them. I want to be able to do everything with physical controls, no eavesdropping, and no dependence on a fucking app or touchscreen to operate anything in my car! I will drive my car while wearing mittens! shakes fist

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    Maybe we just throw an ad on the windshield… Like a little one… Off to the side?

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    This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.

    Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

    They’d grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.

    Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.

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      This is why we need government that isn’t in the pocket of corporations.

      We need something like lawmakers having to disclose their tax information annually. If you want to be in office and make millions you should be willing to put your morals on the review table.

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      they would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

      No, they would require you purchase these because their business can’t sell their products without them, but they’d make you pay a subscription for them to keep working, and when you stop paying the subscription, the car stops turning on until you pay your monthly airbag and seatbelt fee.

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    This is why used cars are so dang expensive, it seems like automobile quality has been in a free fall since 2008. The end user experience gets worse while the price goes up.

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      Early 2000s jap cars are unkillable, surplus of parts, and are not tracker spyware nests. Great little things for sure. My 90s turboed volvo is a far more temperamental beast, but I cherish her quirks :)

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        Right now my car is an 84. With a back up 86 truck. I used to have a 2011 subaru, but hit an prairie antelope with it. If I had my pick I think 1990-2008 Japanese cars are the sweet spot.

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        That’s newer then I would go but yeah at least Honda seems to be behind on the complete shit curve.

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    Roku was experimenting with similar stuff so I refuse to connect my Roku tv to WiFi. Will never update it

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      Ya, they’ve been getting bad press for a while now. Will never own one of those.

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        The TVs aren’t a bad value. Gotta get back the the jailbreaking days. If someone released a custom firmware for my Roku tv that made it dumb I would use it.

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    They really do take 80s and 90s dystopian movies as inspiration. Almost funny how ridiculous unimaginatively evil that are.

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      No, it’s considered distracted stopping. /s

      Same damn diffence in my book, fuck Jeep for that shit!

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    15 hours ago

    “You almost ran over a five year old with your oversized vehicle, thanks for breaking! This segment is brought to you thanks to BetterHelp…”

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      or better yet “You just ran over a single mother while missing her child! this segment brought to you by BetterHelp, you’re gonna need it!”

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      I wonder how hard it would be to make an open source car brain that can be a drop-in replacement for the commercial ones?

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        Hard, even stuff from 10 years ago have proaitary hardware across multiple “brains”.

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    I’ve known several Jeep owners over the last decade and those that weren’t buying it strictly for the ‘Jeep clout’ as an actual vehicle/daily driver had constant issues, while under warranty, and dealt with issues even trying to get said warranty work done. Like that wasn’t enough for me, on top of that I had a mechanic with his own shop that said he’d never touch another Jeep because of how horribly they are designed to work on. Anything from ease of access to work on the engine to bolts stripping out because they were overtorqued during assembly and made with shit metals that would sooner melt than come off in one piece. Now this? Yeah, hope they go bankrupt. This is just as bad as BMW and their ‘pay a subscription for seat warmers’ bullshit.

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      You know, I’ve got to give their marketing team props for managing to sell a vehicle with the engineering quality of a Saturn to people with more money than sense for a whole ass order of magnitude more than it’s worth. Game recognizes game.

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        Its not marketing it’s that they extend credit to anyone who comes through the door. 550 credit score? No problem sir, here is your $62500 RAM 1500, loaded with options. If you can’t pay $1000/month for a Kia why not splurge and not pay $2000/month for an optioned out truck?

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      Yeah I’ve never heard anything good about jeeps in general. Now they are being run further into the ground by trying to become a luxury brand. At least when it was just a shitty jeep, it was still a somewhat cheap shitty jeep.

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        When I was young, you (supposedly) could still buy WWII-era original Jeeps disassembled and packed into crates in cosmoline. I always wanted one of those but never had any desire to own a modern one.

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    I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?

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      Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I’ve owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it’s worth.

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        Yup, Toyota has been solid for me. Though admittedly, they’re also one of the worst in regards to data privacy; You should assume that every single thing you do in a Toyota is being recorded and sent back to a Toyota server for ad/tracking purposes.

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      I’m on year 9 of my 10 year car plan. Current vehicle is supposed to become the kidmobile and I planned on a new one.

      I won’t buy a new car though. If I do replace mine, it will be a used, unconnected car. I am so tired of iPads on wheels.

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        my 2008 BMW is the last without a computer screen and none of that stupid knob and I had to seek it out but it was absolutely worth it. Bonus that I can actually work on the car my self!

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          I think cars peaked ca. 2010. Anything added after that are annoyances or things being taken away.

          If I could get a brand new facelift E90, that would probably be my next car.

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        Toyota Sales here Boy do I have some BMW Heated seat subscription crap to sell you

        (Its not quite as bad as BMW. But one thing that really irks customers is the remote starter is restricted to a subscription service. unless you’re one of the lucky ones who got a vehicle that installed the wrong part/fuses. in which case you can still remote start your car with the fob. its still very finnicky)

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          Yeah that remote start subscription really pissed me off. If i could confirm a way to give them even less data i would.

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        I am still awaiting my first map update to my nav system that has free lifetime map updates, my truck will be 10 this year.

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      This only applies to GM EVs. Friend has a 2025 ICE Chevy which has both AA and CarPlay. Still dumb that the EVs don’t have it though.

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      Mercedes also includes a number of items as a subscription in some countries. Some stuff is app related. Others are things like getting full use of your rear-steering wheels and unlocking extra horsepower.

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      Something to consider…

      Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.

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        the cars are fucking solid.

        Try driving through a car wash without activating “car wash mode”. 😂

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          I’ve done it. I think it might have opened the charge port or something. What do you think happens?

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          That practice was halted and now the vehicle video is under MUCH stricter control with an option to not share any of it at all.
          Given the choice, I’d rather have some Tesla employee joking about what I park next to than Tesla Inc selling my driving data to insurance companies like most other automakers do…

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          That was from years ago.

          Tesla used to sell cars rated by pack capacity. For example the ‘P85D’ was the performance model, 85 kWh pack, dual motor.
          There was also a 40 kWh (cheaper) and 60 kWh version.
          After a while they stopped building 40 kWh packs and just software-locked the 60 kWh pack to only have 40 kWh of usable capacity. I think for a while they offered an upgrade where you could pay to unlock the extra capacity.

          I don’t think they’ve done that in some time. I know when I bought my car (model y long range) they didn’t even advertise the pack capacity nor was any upgrade offered. The only paywall thing I’ve seen with Tesla is FSD and they’re pretty transparent about that. I don’t think they’re awful for paywalling it, because if they build the car without the FSD hardware it won’t have other safety systems like lane departure notification.

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        Oh, he’s just going down a rabbit hole! He’s going on a cute little adventure where he does a fucking Nazi salute in front of the whole country, then proceeds to recklessly dismantle huge parts of the US government, but it’s all just part of his magical little journey! Teehee!