• Faresh@lemmy.ml
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    9 days ago

    Someone being a bad person is not an excuse to deadname them.

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      9 days ago

      Normally I would agree. But in this instance, the very fact that Jenner is trans and voluntarily having her face eaten by leopards is at the core of the issue. So you can’t really tiptoe around the subject in this instance. She’s totally doing this to herself.

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      “The president just ordered the government to deadname you” is not deadnaming.

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      Ordinarily, yes - but she’s praising someone who would quite happily dead name her. It’s apt, is it not?

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      Nah this is like the social contract thing. You only get protection from the social contract as long as you adhere to the social contract.

      The minute you stop adhering to the social contact you stop being protected by it.

      Don’t be a piece of shit and people won’t treat you like a piece of shit. It’s that fuckin simple.

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          If they were being extremely racist I might.

          Not because I’m racist but just because I know it’ll piss them off.

          With that said I’ve never actually done it just thought about it

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            Well… the were when they were in the concentration camps in 1930s Germany after the institute that performed the first successful gender reassignment surgery was burned to the ground.

            Sure it wasn’t the many generations of the horrors of slavery but this is literally just Dido-ing at this point comparing the scale of atrocities. An atrocity is still an atrocity. Slavery was bad and we still see major hardships to this day because of the effects of slavery and Jim Crow. Nazi Germany was bad and look around, we’re speed running the collapse of a democracy into a fascist dictatorship following the exact same steps as Germany did in the 30s.

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        9 days ago

        Trans rights are human rights. They are not something you can take away because people “stop adhering to the social contract”, the same way we can’t take access to food and healthcare away from prisoners just because they did a crime (yes, in real-life they often get taken away, but you get the point).

        Insisting on deadnaming someone also harms the whole transgender community, by pushing the point that those rights are conditional.