• Depress_Mode@lemmy.world
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    I’m sure that’s true for many people. When European tourists visit the US, however, how many are actually going deep into the interior of the US? Most tourists, I’d imagine, would be staying somewhat near one of the coasts and mainly sticking to the major cities. I doubt many Europeans have anywhere in Nebraska on their itineraries. Probably not a ton of European tourists in the US right now anyway, but I mean in the recent past at times of relative political normalcy.

    It makes sense, though. Most people who are travelling don’t have the time or money to spend months seeing all the highlights of a place as large as Europe or the US. Even just these countries offer a ton to see, whether its the cities or the countryside. I can’t speak for how well-traveled Europeans are, but very few people in the US, even those who have lived long lives here, are able to say they’ve even visited every state, let alone seen the whole country. I bet that’s probably true of Europe for Europeans, too.

    I myself don’t have much money for travelling, so I’ve only been to 11 states (and never even left the country), and I certainly did not see everything those states had to offer. Some states are often called “fly-over” states and, frankly, aren’t usually considered worthwhile places to visit anyway (even by Americans), so you can be forgiven for skipping those. I’m sure Europe has its equivalents, too.

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      16 days ago

      The US is not a continent though. You can say, you went to Italy and France. No one expects you to specify the states and say “I went to Lazio, Tuscany, Lombardy and Rhône-Alpes”.

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        Yeah, but in the same sense that when one says they’ve “travelled” the US, chances are they’ve only actually seen a small portion of the country, just like it’s a little dubious when US tourists claim to have “travelled” Europe and only actually seen a small portion of the continent. The contiguous US is only a little bigger than Europe, most US states rival European countries in terms of size, and many European countries have administrative regions (using whatever term they prefer) that are also roughly the size of many US state counties, so I feel it’s actually a pretty apt comparison all the way down. San Bernardino County, CA, for example, is about the size of Tuscany.

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        You need to read the replies. The Dutch in particular are apparently very annoyed that people do this and only visit Amsterdam or Copenhagen. There are quite a few others in here as well. People just looking for a reason to shit on others is all that’s happening in here.

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          I would like to interject, the Dutch aren’t Danish…Copenhagen is a city in Denmark…

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      But calling Spain, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium etc. the equivalent of Nebraska is just wrong.

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        Of course, and that’s not what I had in mind, either. All of those places are most certainly worth making trips to. I’m just assuming there are some countries even most Europeans don’t bother visiting. Maybe Moldova (sorry Moldovans)? Again, I don’t really know, though.

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    No different than European tourists “traveling the US” visiting a couple of big cities and maybe the Grand Canyon on a stop in between.

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    For a more accurate map, erase everything south of Rome, including Sicily, as well as Corsica and Sardinia. At the northern end of things, probably also Ireland and Scotland.
    Then make four new tiny islands and name them Barcelona, Munich, Amsterdam and Prague.

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      Keep Tuscany, Rome, Milan, Naples and Venice and you are done for Italy.

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      I also don’t get why it only includes NI and not Eire. Don’t most Americans go to Dublin, Cork, Galway, Waterford, Limerick?

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        I think NI is included as part of the UK and, if we’re being honest, it’s rare that they visit anything more than an hour from London or Edinburgh so having most of the rest of the UK is push too.

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    Stop gatekeeping tourism. “Oh, if you don’t live in each city of each country for at least a week, are you even outside your home?” Who TF you think has money for that? People will choose what they want to see. If they stay in one or two cities, they haven’t seen enough. If they run through 10 countries in 12 days, it was only a shallow visit. Who can win? Fuck off with that bullshit.

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        I just said people will go to where they want to go. Did I fucking stutter?

        If they want to go to Paris instead of the just as romantic Prague, you don’t get a say in it. None of your business.

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            And people will start listening when said opinions pays their mortgage. Until then “lol, no” will be your answer.

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        people don’t get to do many overseas vacations. Makes sense they would want to go to the best countries first? Yes every country is unique beautiful and people are interesting and if someone can afford to keep exploring, it’s endless delight. but Italy, France, Spain are not deemed the best for no reason. It’s because they genuinely are

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          idk i think “best” is doing rather a lot of work here. smaller countries can be quite interesting and hospitable as well. i quite enjoyed my time in finland personally

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            i emphasized several times that other countries can also be interesting and enjoyable and terrific. Does not mean one is not much better. You might choose to go to Finland if you’ve already visited Italy but, again, not everyone can afford multiple trips, even over the course of their lifetime. And when you can only choose one, you don’t start with niche. Very few people would pass on visiting many different places, it’s just that most people don’t have that option

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              I haven’t visited Italy tho and do not plan to. or Spain or France. Finalnd is as real a country as any other and not “niche”

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      Traveling [place] implies you’re seeing a large enough portion of it to be representative to all of [place]. That’s what this is making fun of. Nobody says ‘im travelling the US’ when theyre just going to NYC and Florida. At most they’d say they’re going TO the US. That’s just what those respective phrasings imply. The meme isn’t ripping on not travelling or not travelling everywhere.

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        I have never heard anyone say that they’re “travelling Europe” in my life. I don’t think this is a thing. I’ve heard people say “I’m going to [insert European country]” instead. I’ve heard people claim to backpack across Europe, though I don’t know where that usually entails.

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        Traveling [place] implies you’re seeing a large enough portion of it to be representative to all of [place].

        [citation needed]

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      That those are the only counties Americans stereotypically visit.

      Which isn’t close to true.

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        Ironically, the most unbelievably stereotypically-American tourist thing I’ve ever witnessed was while I was in Germany. We started chatting while renting bikes, and upon learning that I was Scottish she remarked that she was surprised I spoke English

        She seemed lovely otherwise

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    This thread is just massive gatekeeping 🤣

    So many angry nerds people care mostly about food and shopping.