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I 2nd this. If you stop me or my wife the first thing I need to see if a badge, id, and warrant. Not one or the other. 2out of three at least.
This is exactly where the 2nd amendment and the Blue Lives Matter movements collide. If both civilians and police have the legal right to arm and defend themselves with lethal force, and neither has a responsibility to show restraint or demonstrate cause, then you have created a situation where an innocent civilian and a good cop could kill each other in self defense and neither would have done anything wrong.
Edit: I’m not going to respond to each comment saying there are no good cops. My point is that the cop does not have to be a bad cop for the civilian to have reasonable fear for their life, nor does the civilian need to be a criminal for the cop to have a reasonable fear for their life. Both are legally justified in killing the other person, and both are legally entitled to own a weapon capable of killing the other. That’s not a society, that’s a war. Ir we didn’t already have a police force, and you described their function in their current state to a peaceful society, they would think you were mad.
A good cop won’t create a situation where an innocent civilian will feel the need to use lethal force.
A cop doesn’t need to be a bad cop to create a situation where the civilian has a reasonable fear for their life. I’m a believer that ACAB, but even if I’m wrong, it’s still an untenable situation.
a good cop
Lol
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I wonder how many people who support both movements would consider themselves “pro-life.”
Do people actually believe this stuff? There have been many tv shows for decades where they literally follow police around with a camera. And anyone who tries this “give me your badge number, you need a warrant, you don’t have probable cause” gets arrested. They don’t even make a secret about it.
MAGA Nut Kills political opponents.
End story.
Civil War is in the beginning stages between L.A. and this.
Sure, it started on inauguration day… but, now it’s truly ramping up.
Civil war my ass. The actual civil war had a clear geographic and economic divide between a manufacturing, wage-labor north and an agrarian, slave-owning south.
The fuck kind of divide is this supposed to be over today? Left/right culture war? Most people are still completely checked out. Yankees are very very comfortable (precarious comfort, but still comfortable) and lead 99.99% identical lives to one another. There is not going to be a civil war.
Some experts think it’ll be low intensity conflict like The Troubles, but at a much larger scale.
Calling it Left vs Right culture is kinda over simplifying it but kinda. The problem is that a lot of regions have shifted in their beliefs and even further separated since the civil war, just cause I and a Utah Mormon live vaguely similar day to day lives doesn’t mean we are culturally compatible.
This is closer to the Yugoslav troubles before its initial break down in the 90s, a bunch of cultures who while broadly similar on a surface level have friction with one another regardless due to deeper issues. It just happens to be manifesting on a political level since most Americans will happily suppress their own regional identity in favor of the American imperial Identity.
I think it bears mentioning that the “deranged maniac” title isn’t the whole story. I don’t know about this guy in particular, but a lot of these guys are all part of far-right online cliques that share propaganda amongst each other while valorizing the guys who do this shit.
I wouldnt be surprised if right wing websites are celebrating this guy as a hero and an example to follow
To be fair, we are celebrating whoever did what Luigi is accused of as a hero.
Just to highlight some solidarity: Right groups celebrate that too. I don’t think any political spectrum takes the side of health insurance companies.
I’m not celebrating it, but I am lamenting a system that makes it seem inevitable:
…that’s pretty much ICE’s recruitment demographic…
Hold on, someone killed legislators? Is this a hypothetical or did this just happen?
What news have I been missing out on? Actually maybe I’d rather not know, too much depression right now.
2 democrat lawmakers were assasinated, plus the dog, and he had more targets.
We had Luigi, now we have his archnemesis, the Waluigi
Nah don’t do Walugi like that. He’s more of a rival than nemesis. More like Lugi turned up to 11 with a plan
plus the dog
Method acting, i see.
One was assassinated. The other was only injured.
A MN state rep and her husband were murdered and a state senator and his wife were shot and are in “grave” danger.
Not just murdered, assassinated.
potato, putahto.
Because they’re dead, sure. But assassination is specific.
The short answer: yes
not surprised a right wing evangelical pastors, that did this, he had a hit list targeting other democrats, and abortion providers.
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You got a source?
I can’t find anything online about the killer being caught or even being identified. It may even be a real cop.
“Police Officer means Terrorist? What a country!”
