various assassinations, the brink of nuclear apocalypse, an unpopular political war away from home that caused a social movement, and political espionage.
It’s like we’re cursed.
You can only drop something so many times before it actually breaks, and we never really fixed the cracks caused by the civil war.
Reconstruction ended early after Johnson took office and as a result we didn’t end segregation in the south until a century after the war ended.
There are people alive now who still remember segregation and some of them liked it that way. And now they’re empowered, both metaphorically and literally, thanks to the gerontocracy we’ve created.
We’re going to tear ourselves apart trying to undo 60 years of progress over the next 4 years.
I feel like if we pull through this as an intact nation it’s not going to be recognizable as the nation we grew up in until long after we’re all gone. It’s going to take generations to clean up this mess.Agree 100%.
Although I don’t just blame the old people, a lot of them were hippies.
We’re still the same divided country we were in the civil war, racists and oligarchs vs people of better character.
Trump has, even at this early point, permanently changed the political realities of this country. He will be remembered for elevating the presidency to the point where the rule of law no longer applies.
a lot of them were hippies.
A lot of them were hippies that became selfish assholes. People change. Especially when there are propaganda networks working to change them.
We’re still the same divided country we were in the civil war
Except now every stupid, racist asshole has the ability to spread their message to millions of people.
Likely less than 1% of boomers were hippies. They call it “counter culture” for a reason.
What most people would consider “hippies” consisted of a pretty small group of people mostly living in California.
A larger and much less genuine movement came later when John Lennon decided to appropriate hippy fashion. But that’s all it was (fashion).
People who truly held core values like “peace, free love and compassion” were absolutely not the majority but they were loud and colorful and now we remember that period of time as being overrun with hippies.
I’m so proud that Congress has taken it apon themselves to do absolutely nothing.
Abuse of power isn’t political and can come from either side. We need to limit the executive branch
Don’t say you agree 100% and then say although.
feel free to delude yourself, don’t try to dilude other people.
It also has given me a lot of hope. There is a ton of backlash from people from all walks of life.
I think we all need more empathy and understanding
“Extinction is the rule, survival is the exception” - Carl Sagan
There’s an unbroken chain of descent between you and the first single-celled organism.
Not for entities like me
Yeah, but not every empire survives these things. Or survives and remains recognizable.
The U.S. has also never experienced a felon rapist traitor in the Oval Office with an entire party abdicating their responsibilities and conceding their power to that felon rapist traitor and protecting him from repercussions at every opportunity.
Reality check. We have a literal traitor in the Oval Office backed by a treasonous party.
Shit’s not looking good.
Shit is not looking good
Nixon seems like he comes close
What bothers me is the weaponization of the justice department. I think it needs to be politically unbiased so that justice can be served in a fair and equal way. I don’t like when a party goes after political opponents. Yes people need to help accountable but they also deserve a fair trial.
Nixon was bad but super tame compared to Tangerine Palpatine.
You’re not wrong about all the things that have happened, but there are lots of countries around the world over that same timeline who have had a much worse go of things. The US has been the most powerful country in the world, so what happens here has an outsized impact, however this seems like just another facet of “American exceptionalism,” that the bad things that the US has done or had happen are somehow more special than all the bad things that have happened everywhere else.
So if you notice that we bombed Iran this week, you must find it the most important bombing? I truly don’t get how some people’s hobby is to shit on the US
Why wouldnt you?
Because the time the world has existed includes times other than this week. And other countries.
Exactly So why wouldnt you? The US is not and has never been a good guy.
*except for when it was in WWI/II among others
Literally a way to get rid of hungry mouths post-Depression, and wars the US didnt even want to be part of until they were attacked. Russia defeated Germany but the US took credit for it.
So… your point is that we are the only country of concern “because we have never been the good guy”?
Strawman. Fail.
I think you misunderstood that guy
Are you saying that the country has survived through things, so you don’t worry any more? Not sure if I understand your logic.
I am saying that the present situation is not out of character for the USA.
We are the Florida of the world.
Yeah it is dawg. This is really completely new territory in almost every way.
I don’t see how America is special relative to “the world”. Many countries have gone through much more than that.
We’re doing the disaster speedrun.
Japan might be the expert: Totally decimated in WWII, including two nuclear bombings. Earthquakes, tsunamis, typhoons, volcanic eruptions. Fukushima diaster. Tokyo Sarin gas attack. Economic crash, ageing population, mass suicides.
Every country is unique. I don’t see the need to compare nor do I think op had any desire to compare
I didn’t start the comparison. It was the OP who said “We are the Florida of the world.”
True. Maybe a little less of a comparison than yours though.
It’s like people who say that you shouldn’t get vaccinated, you should just get the disease so you don’t get the disease.
It is more like saying that if you survived a stroke, you will live forever.
Just like every other country
Helpful to know that the country was markedly different before and after each of these events. Think of things before and after WWII, for instance. We will experience similar over the next 20 - 40 years.
It got better right? Right?! RIGHT?!
Yeah, and Anakin just played with the kids for half an hour before ushering them to safety.
It’s also already gone through everything happening right now.
I just hope they don’t bring the world down in their own demise
OP, read up on the fall of Rome and how it all went down. It’s pretty likely we will see the fall of America in our lifetime.
Fuck America. Sincerely, Canada.
I don’t see that as cursed, but rather that humanity is so resilient no matter the size of the evil, humanity always endures. And it’s not just the US, but pretty much any population in any region going back to thousands of years. The God that helps survive all this evil is called Oneness (cooperation & empathy). And that we are the product of strong ancestors.
PS: we’ll be alright.
Capitalism. All caused by capitalism.
If you think that’s a reason not to worry, then I’m worried.
