• nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 hours ago

    Even if some unholy combo of the right and the slightly less right us what we wanted, this is literally just plotting for the spoiler effect

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    The old school dems will team up with the majority of Rs and nothing will change. Anything to keep progressives from taking power.

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    “The Republican Party, as many of us know it, no longer exists,” said one source, who asked not to be named. “We do not recognize ourselves anymore in Trump’s administration. There is a strong movement out there in the party to reclaim the values we were raised on and reclaim the middle ground.”

    Translation: “Omg can you believe this leopard is eating my face? Now that I’m personally affected by my own stupidity I want to be friends with Democrats!”

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      This is a good thing. Don’t mock people for realizing their party has abandoned them and acting accordingly.

      Better late than never, but we need to support this ideal.

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        12 hours ago

        You don’t understand what they are saying. You don’t understand what I’m saying.

        You are the problem. Not some Republican politician whose lie you don’t understand.

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          This is a very republican method of argument.

          Edit: now tell them to go “do your own research”

      • uuldika@lemmy.ml
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        third parties just can’t win under the current system. we’d need ranked choice voting.

        the way forward is through the primaries. that’s how we got Zohran.

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        I mean, hell, if the right wing Dems separate from the progressives and join the less-crazy-than-maga centerish Republicans and they go play in corporate-funded Neverland that hopefully no sane voter would touch with a ten foot pole, a real progressive party might actually become a possibility. It’ll isolate the magats and push them back into a hole, we may get a more moderate conservative party that could be open to compromising again, and hopefully a coalition of real progressives can begin putting forward some much needed ideas.

        The key will be ensuring that that progressive party is funded well enough to compete with the corporate money that is pumped by the truckload into that new coalition (which will be a feat in itself).

        I dunno, just anything to get these fucking fleas out of our politics.

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      22 hours ago

      They said the same thing after Nixon… and after Reagan… and now after Trump. Moderates will eat it up and we will end up worse on the next cycle of debauchery.

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    “Vote blue no matter who, but also we’ll leave the party completely at the slightest hint you want to reduce income inequality and fix the broken social safety net.”

    Edit: Actually, good, fuck em. Why should the left need to start its own party. We’re the Democrats now. Any Democratic official who leaves the party for this should be abandoned forever.

    • thedruid@lemmy.world
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      Fuck that. Dem leadership has abandoned the people. The Democratic and Republicans are finished

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        23 hours ago

        Probably true, but it’s easier to move into an empty house than build a new one.

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            I know I started the house analogy, but in this case the foundation is people. It’s the failed leadership and weak platform that can more easily be discarded.

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                I mean, I get the frustration and it’s edgy to keep saying there’s no hope, but you’re just not going to get people leaving either party en masse. Most people don’t want to give up the option of voting in primaries and at least having some influence there. It’s just far more plausible to take over existing parties and remake them with a new vision.

  • dhork@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    This seems like a trap that will enable the MAGAs to win more elections without a majority of votes…

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    Yeah, nah, we’re good dawgs. The democrat-republican third party would just be what the Dems are now - a right-of-center status quo capitulation party. Fuck every single one of you and your mothers. Have a good day.

    • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 hours ago

      Realistically, the end goal is to replace the democratic party with the new one and abandon the growing progressive wing to obscurity.

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    Wish they were in discussion to overhaul our fptp voting system. Any third party is doomed to fail, by design, until first past the post is in the rear view mirror.

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    The article doesn’t name names and only mentions “centerists.” Those can all fuck off and make their own party. It will split the republican votes the most.