• RagingRobot@lemmy.world
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    Why are they doing a comprehensive audit on the content and not doing a comprehensive audit on new payment providers? I sure would be

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          What I meant is that simply excluding Mastercard and Visa would turn away tons of sales and donations, even if they worked with every other payment processor on the planet at once.

          They… could. But it would hurt, maybe even kill Itch.

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    My biggest issue with this situation is: if they can get away with getting games they don’t like being delisted, where does it end? Delisting books with themes or authors they don’t like? Banning the sale of alcohol and cigarettes?

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      Honestly haven’t thought so far. But Media lacks that, as almost everything is clickbait.

      And you got a point. There is questionable stuff. But killing off a whole area is like a bit shot on a small bird

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      I mean, crypto is still not the answer so long as it is functionally a speculative asset even after all the proof efficiency improvements… Also it still has centralized points which keyholders could easily leverage.

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    One of the great mysteries of the 21st century is how a tiny number of US companies control most of the world’s payment processing, when it’s not a technically difficult problem.

    You could implement an entire end-to-end payment processing system in a year with a team of a few dozen competent engineers. The only difficulty is getting banks and retailers to sign up to it, but when the big players charge so much and create so much trouble this doesn’t seem like it should be a tough sell. In most cases literally all you’d need to do is charge 2.4% instead of their 3%.

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    Could someone just make, like, Raunchy Mastercard and just process payments from everyone including all the porn and weird shit that the other mainstream companies don’t want? It seems like the payment processors being puritanical dipshits is a weakness that could be exploited by an enterprising competitor.

    But then again, we’re talking about a natural monopoly that has been in place for decades at this point. I wouldn’t expect them to exactly play fair.

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      The problem is that people like MC and visa would then ban you from sending money TO RaunchyCard.

      So it just moves the problem back a step.

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    Yall will hate me for it, but porn games should have never been on the main launcher. That’s just asking for trouble. Steam should have a secondary launcher that is just for the adult games, and keep the two seperate. This shit wouldn’t be happening if these games hadn’t been so accessible to people not looking for that in the first place.

    Also lets be honest, some of the shit is over the line. There shouldn’t be multiple “Sex with Hitler” games, because as ridiculous as that sounds, normalizing Nazis and Hitler is a fucking virus that does so much fucking harm when spread. Its not just a “silly joke”.

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      I don’t think adult content should be stigmatized and quarantined. Why is a game about cutting terrified victims open with a handsaw cool, but a game about licking a clit needs to be isolated?

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      You might have a point on problematic content for the same reason that satire is difficult to pull off, but the entire category of “porn” is WAY too broad of a line to draw, and neither should be otsracized completely simply for existing.

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      My favourite fact is she thinks decriminalising sex work will lead to more sex trafficing.

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          Stuff like this is the strongest argument for a decentralized payment option. Hopefully some day crypto will not be so much a tool of monetary speculation and we can use it for that without having to have the same experience as the guy who bought a pizza with Bitcoin.

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            That’s what I always wanted “DeFi” to be, a systematic replacement for the legions of evil old banks who have happily collaborated with the worst institutions of the last several centuries.

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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      Reist reviewed the controversial Netflix film Cuties (2020) for both her ABC Religion & Ethics column[20] and for the Christian newspaper Eternity.[21] She described the film as “a social critique on what happens when we allow misogynistic, violent, exhibitionist internet culture to ravage girls – training them to wield their immature bodies as currency.”[21] Reist related the film to the activism of Collective Shout: “In the past 10 years at Collective Shout, we have met many girls this age, who have felt the same pressures. Some have taken inappropriate pics and shared them, sexualising themselves either out of a sense of obligation, or because they have believed the lie that self-objectification is empowering or liberating.”[21] However, regarding certain scenes in the film, she wrote that “the complexity here is that in trying to make a serious ethical point about girls and sexuality, the girls may have been used unwittingly — but still inappropriately — to a noble end. The scene could have been filmed differently[.]”[20]

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        Yeah. As a society we seriously need to get on the same page about morality, but for my money it can’t come from a religious group tinkering with the beating heart of commerce. They may have points to make but it’s fruit of the poisoned tree.

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    Transaction companies should not play police, in my opinion

    In fact no company should play being police

    This is why we have the digital market act

    How are transaction offering companies not included there? Who gives them the right to choose what people consume?

    Way do much centralised power

    Basically a dictatorship

    Fuck that

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      I mean, they have no problems offering transaction services to obvious scams like “find sex in your region” and other scammy find relationship websites.

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      This will never go away. Payment processors make life easy for most consumers, people like them. And as long as we have them, they hold all the power around how money can be used. And they will always be limited by governments and local laws.

      If you don’t like the situation, use cash. If that’s too inconvenient Bitcoin is essentially your only other option.

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        They have the power because states gave it to them. States can very easily take it back. But they won’t because they’re corrupted assholes.

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          Not even… They have the power because you gave it to them. States can take it away, but that’s worse, you don’t want that.

          But it doesn’t really matter, it’s all connected. The payment processors control how money can be used and the state controls how they’re allowed to let you use it. And you let it all happen by voluntarily using a credit card.

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        Bitcoin, or maybe better the millions other way more efficient alternatives 😜

        Edit: “or better” instead of “and”, as I wanted to say that nearly any other crypto coin is more efficient than bitcoin. 😁

        Or i wanted to say, if you offer bitcoin payment , please offer alternative crypto coins as well…

        Not so sure anymore xD

        At least the main thing I wanted to say, is that bitcoin is very inefficient.

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            I guess you interpreted my comment wrong…

            What I say is that basically any alternative crypto coin is way more efficient than bitcoin and thus it would be dumb to go for bitcoin compared to the trillion other crypto coins.

            ✌🏻

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              ah, that makes more sense!

              just as an aside, for future reference:

              you wrote,

              Bitcoin, and the millions other way more efficient alternatives 😜"

              when you really meant to write:

              Bitcoin, or the millions other way more efficient alternatives 😜"

              it may be s subtle difference, but when you write “and” it means bitcoin AND the other alternatives are efficient.

              when you use “or” instead, it means bitcoin OR the more efficient alternatives.

              so my interpretation was correct. you just didn’t write what you thought you did…

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                Ohh, yea, guess that are symptoms of my native language being swiss german 😆 we use sometimes strange word-combinations for comparison of stuff

                Thank you for the head up!

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                  hey, no worries!

                  just felt like it might be useful to know where the misunderstanding happened

                  i’m glad if it helped, cheers!

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    gamers, unironically, rise up. this isn’t going to end on niche porn games

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        most of the world isn’t american. we can’t do anything about your government

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          Capitalism is a global problem, its not contained to america. Replace neighbors being kidnapped with which ever country you’re in supporting a genocide and it still fits, and is likely accurate unless you’re like in Yemen.

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      It’s already expanded. It started as going after “rape and incest” but now it’s all adult games. But a bunch of lgbtq games have already gotten hit. I am beyond furious.

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          i don’t know if any source has caught up yet, but a few days ago it was indeed just taboo kink games that were being targeted, now it seems all of itch.ios NSFW games are disappearing

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            I think all games being hit is a temporary measure while they get some sort of new process in place. We’ll see where things land.

            Either way, card processing companies shouldn’t be dictating what kind of art consumers can consume, even if I don’t personally agree with the content of some of the worst offenders. If it’s not outright illegal, they can fuck off.

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              You’re being too gracious. These companies could have given itch.io enough time to classify the games properly, but they didn’t.

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        It’s gonna stop once they hit a category that includes big AAA games. Once they start cutting into the revenue of Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed the big developers should take a stance.

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          I’ve already seen a pretty big YouTuber cover that they are targeting GTA 6 now. It was either moistcritical or mudahar

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      How do I tell politely in a letter to MasterCard, that if I want to buy a horse dildo it’s only MY fucking business?

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        buy a horse dildo with bitcoin and flaunt how they didn’t get any money from your transaction? idk man, i’m good at vague ideas, specifics are harder

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          Are you sure gun and violence culture is on the chopping block? In the American market?

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            It absolutely is. We only encourage gun and violence culture in real life, especially by authoritarian figures and their representatives. Allowing such in virtual spaces where no one can actually be hurt or killed runs counter to our patriotic ideals.

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          GUNS are you nuts… Murican “morale” apostles might have infuenced the media worldwide, but if you take away guns… you lose Murica!