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      My favourite fact is she thinks decriminalising sex work will lead to more sex trafficing.

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          Stuff like this is the strongest argument for a decentralized payment option. Hopefully some day crypto will not be so much a tool of monetary speculation and we can use it for that without having to have the same experience as the guy who bought a pizza with Bitcoin.

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            That’s what I always wanted “DeFi” to be, a systematic replacement for the legions of evil old banks who have happily collaborated with the worst institutions of the last several centuries.

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      Reist reviewed the controversial Netflix film Cuties (2020) for both her ABC Religion & Ethics column[20] and for the Christian newspaper Eternity.[21] She described the film as “a social critique on what happens when we allow misogynistic, violent, exhibitionist internet culture to ravage girls – training them to wield their immature bodies as currency.”[21] Reist related the film to the activism of Collective Shout: “In the past 10 years at Collective Shout, we have met many girls this age, who have felt the same pressures. Some have taken inappropriate pics and shared them, sexualising themselves either out of a sense of obligation, or because they have believed the lie that self-objectification is empowering or liberating.”[21] However, regarding certain scenes in the film, she wrote that “the complexity here is that in trying to make a serious ethical point about girls and sexuality, the girls may have been used unwittingly — but still inappropriately — to a noble end. The scene could have been filmed differently[.]”[20]

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        Yeah. As a society we seriously need to get on the same page about morality, but for my money it can’t come from a religious group tinkering with the beating heart of commerce. They may have points to make but it’s fruit of the poisoned tree.

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    Transaction companies should not play police, in my opinion

    In fact no company should play being police

    This is why we have the digital market act

    How are transaction offering companies not included there? Who gives them the right to choose what people consume?

    Way do much centralised power

    Basically a dictatorship

    Fuck that

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      I mean, they have no problems offering transaction services to obvious scams like “find sex in your region” and other scammy find relationship websites.

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      This will never go away. Payment processors make life easy for most consumers, people like them. And as long as we have them, they hold all the power around how money can be used. And they will always be limited by governments and local laws.

      If you don’t like the situation, use cash. If that’s too inconvenient Bitcoin is essentially your only other option.

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        They have the power because states gave it to them. States can very easily take it back. But they won’t because they’re corrupted assholes.

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          Not even… They have the power because you gave it to them. States can take it away, but that’s worse, you don’t want that.

          But it doesn’t really matter, it’s all connected. The payment processors control how money can be used and the state controls how they’re allowed to let you use it. And you let it all happen by voluntarily using a credit card.

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        Bitcoin, or maybe better the millions other way more efficient alternatives 😜

        Edit: “or better” instead of “and”, as I wanted to say that nearly any other crypto coin is more efficient than bitcoin. 😁

        Or i wanted to say, if you offer bitcoin payment , please offer alternative crypto coins as well…

        Not so sure anymore xD

        At least the main thing I wanted to say, is that bitcoin is very inefficient.

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            I guess you interpreted my comment wrong…

            What I say is that basically any alternative crypto coin is way more efficient than bitcoin and thus it would be dumb to go for bitcoin compared to the trillion other crypto coins.

            ✌🏻

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              ah, that makes more sense!

              just as an aside, for future reference:

              you wrote,

              Bitcoin, and the millions other way more efficient alternatives 😜"

              when you really meant to write:

              Bitcoin, or the millions other way more efficient alternatives 😜"

              it may be s subtle difference, but when you write “and” it means bitcoin AND the other alternatives are efficient.

              when you use “or” instead, it means bitcoin OR the more efficient alternatives.

              so my interpretation was correct. you just didn’t write what you thought you did…

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                Ohh, yea, guess that are symptoms of my native language being swiss german 😆 we use sometimes strange word-combinations for comparison of stuff

                Thank you for the head up!

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                  hey, no worries!

                  just felt like it might be useful to know where the misunderstanding happened

                  i’m glad if it helped, cheers!

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    gamers, unironically, rise up. this isn’t going to end on niche porn games

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      It’s already expanded. It started as going after “rape and incest” but now it’s all adult games. But a bunch of lgbtq games have already gotten hit. I am beyond furious.

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          i don’t know if any source has caught up yet, but a few days ago it was indeed just taboo kink games that were being targeted, now it seems all of itch.ios NSFW games are disappearing

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            I think all games being hit is a temporary measure while they get some sort of new process in place. We’ll see where things land.

            Either way, card processing companies shouldn’t be dictating what kind of art consumers can consume, even if I don’t personally agree with the content of some of the worst offenders. If it’s not outright illegal, they can fuck off.

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              You’re being too gracious. These companies could have given itch.io enough time to classify the games properly, but they didn’t.

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        It’s gonna stop once they hit a category that includes big AAA games. Once they start cutting into the revenue of Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed the big developers should take a stance.

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          I’ve already seen a pretty big YouTuber cover that they are targeting GTA 6 now. It was either moistcritical or mudahar

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      How do I tell politely in a letter to MasterCard, that if I want to buy a horse dildo it’s only MY fucking business?

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        buy a horse dildo with bitcoin and flaunt how they didn’t get any money from your transaction? idk man, i’m good at vague ideas, specifics are harder

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          Are you sure gun and violence culture is on the chopping block? In the American market?

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            It absolutely is. We only encourage gun and violence culture in real life, especially by authoritarian figures and their representatives. Allowing such in virtual spaces where no one can actually be hurt or killed runs counter to our patriotic ideals.

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          GUNS are you nuts… Murican “morale” apostles might have infuenced the media worldwide, but if you take away guns… you lose Murica!

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        most of the world isn’t american. we can’t do anything about your government

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          Capitalism is a global problem, its not contained to america. Replace neighbors being kidnapped with which ever country you’re in supporting a genocide and it still fits, and is likely accurate unless you’re like in Yemen.

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    I don’t get it. Do payment processors want less money? Do they hate being entrenched and bringing in revenue just for existing? Do they want us to try and find alternatives to them?

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      this bullshit is surely coming from the recently intensifying family friendlinessification of the internet, but why the fuck do payment processors care? i have no idea. are they taking a cut of advertising revenue? do all ceos just want to appear as massive prudes? do they see children as an untapped market to exploit? or maybe they’re just fucking stupid? what is actually going on

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      I think someone once told me its about charge backs. People will pay up for hours and hours of content (more for addicts) and then issue a chargeback, or otherwise say their card was stolen (how dare you insinuate I’m into that fetish! Type shit) and because there is no physical product to seize, the company is left with repeatedly eating investigation costs into fraudulent porn addicts.

      E: I’m not judging anyone’s porn content, idgaf what you smack or flick to. Merely an observation of people not realizing how much they will charge their CC until statement time, and freak out and then chargeback, making the company susceptible to puritanical influence because “those damn porn users” keep costing the company money.

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      They make money hand over first for doing practically nothing… They’re perfectly happy with their current situation and the most important thing to them right now is not rocking the boat.

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      It’s all about misandry (attacking men’s enjoyment), These are all male-dominated medias, but they’re (as in CollectiveShout) OK with cuties.

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    I find it funny that a lot of the fediverse is anti-cryptocurrency, yet this is a perfect example of a problem cryptocurrency can solve. No one can stop you from transacting on a number of blockchains.

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      If it was used as an actual currency instead of an investment vehicle for speculators, that would help.

      It also has zero protection from scams and fraud.

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        I mean you can use it as currency, and I do sometimes. I have bought plenty of steam games with Bitcoin. I’ve also bought a bunch of stuff on Newegg, and other places online.

        It has exactly as much protection from scams and fraud as cash does, that’s essentially what it is.

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          And I don’t give cash to anonymous people online. I only use cash in-person for immediate services or products.

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      Crypto is so heavily regulated now, I don’t even know how to procure any cause all the sites I have used years ago are just dead now.

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        In KYC systems it is really easy to acquire—companies are willing to sell it to you with no problems.

        If you want to get it anonymously, the easiest would probably be to buy via cash. In Switzerland, you can buy via some atms

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    Collective shout finacials
    year: 2024
    revenue: 458043
    employee_expenses: 107000
    other_expenses: 215488
    net_surplus: 135555
    employees: 
      total_fte: 2
      full_time: 0
      part_time: 1
      casual: 4
    volunteers: 15
    donations_and_bequests: 389800
    government_grants: 0
    commercial_income: 0
    expense_to_revenue_ratio: "70.4%"
    average_expense_per_employee: 39400
    
    Leadership
    - name: Melinda Tankard Reist
      role: Founder, Movement Director
      public_socials:
        - Twitter: @MelTankardReist
        - Instagram: @collective.shout
      public_email_address: Not publicly listed
      salary: Not publicly listed
    
    - name: Caitlin Roper
      role: Campaigns Manager
      public_socials:
        - Instagram: @collective.shout
      public_email_address: Not publicly listed
      salary: Not publicly listed
    
    - name: Renee Chopping
      role: Campaigns Strategy
      public_socials:
        - LinkedIn
      public_email_address: r******@collectiveshout.org
      salary: Not publicly listed
    
    - name: Lyn Swanson Kennedy
      role: Campaigns Strategy
      public_socials:
        - Instagram: @collective.shout
      public_email_address: Not publicly listed
      salary: Not publicly listed
    
    - name: Coralie Alison
      role: Movement Operations Manager
      public_socials:
        - Twitter: @CoralieAlison
        - Instagram: @collective.shout
      public_email_address: Not publicly listed
      salary: Not publicly listed
    
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      This is exactly like the pearl-clutching we had back in the 1980’s around D&D and music lyrics. At least we moved the goalpost from satanic panic and thinly-veiled racism, over to “art that features sexual expression I don’t understand.”

      If history is any indicator, their actions are only going to increase awareness of this kind of stuff.

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    How do platforms like Patreon and OnlyFans circumvent this? I know OF had issues with payment processors in the past but I’m not sure what changes they implemented to stay compliant. There must be some way for itch.io to keep these things on their platform while not pissing off the payment processors (who can go fuck themselves btw, this is completely unnecessary)

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      Porn sites are categorized as high risk at these payment processors. So probably itch has to fall into the high risk category and incur higher fees or remove all porn content. If you fall into the high risk category the payment platform will probably audit you more often and thus charge higher fees.

      OF probably had these same issues because they didn’t start as a porn site.

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    Holy fuck why did Collective Shout go full nuclear and go behind the platforms’ back and straight to the payment processors. Like they could have at least talk to the Itch.io people.

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      If they wanted any games banned all they had to do was talk to the Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC) in Australia, where they’re based. Any of the games listed would have likely been added to the ‘Refused Classification’ list and thereby banned from sale and import in Australia. If they wanted them pulled from Steam or Itch entirely they could have talked to those platforms.

      But they didn’t want to raise objections through appropriate preexisting channels, they wanted to push their Christian-based ideology on the whole world by going Karen on the social media of all the payment processors.

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    Hmmm. Could porn once again because the medium catalyst for bitcoin to take off.

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    I get not liking a game about SA and incest, but how about just not play that game?