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    Beginning to question the inherent wisdom of “Normal transition of power” when Biden handed the keys of the kingdom to a guy who openly planned to lock all the doors and shoot the next guy elected to walk through them.

    But hey, I guess it would have been against the rules not to meekly empower a fascist dictatorship.

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      Probably what will happen is anyone who might challenge them will suddenly be arrested on Trumped-Up charges.

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      I hope you are being cheeky by saying ‘beginning to’, it was immensely obvious this was the plan going back to, at bare minimum, about a year before the election, when Trump just kept saying he was gonna serve 3 terms, his supporters wouldn’t have to vote again, etc.

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      I love these comments that always place the blame on Biden, instead of you know, the actual fucking fascists. JFC.

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        I think it is because you can’t reason with these idiot fascists, but we could have reasoned with Biden.

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      So what. You wanted a dictatorship to stop a dictatorship. Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

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        Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

        Once people who’ve sworn to end democracy are given the power to end democracy, then it’s game over for democracy.

        Preventing a corrupt criminal who’s a known agent of a hostile foreign powers from becoming president is a healthy thing to do.

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        Congratulations, you just discovered the paradox of tolerance.

        And, yeah, essentially, in order to survive, a democratic society cannot allow those who seek to destroy it to participate in the democratic process.

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          Nope. I have been aware of the paradox of tolerance for awhile and its a little shoehorning to put this situation into it. Your talking about a case of allowing an elected official to take office not tolerating speech.

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            An elected official who repeatedly stated and demonstrated his intention of preventing any future elections and destroying democracy.

            An elected official, therefore, who should never have been allowed to run for office in the first place (this isn’t the only reason he shouldn’t have been allowed, of course, in a sane country he’d also been unelectable due to his criminal record, lack of any semblance of mental health, and intellectual insufficiency, but it’s the most important).

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              Ill agree he should not have been able to run but that was a failure of congress or in other words other people elected under the democracy to office. Not allowing him to run would have been great but not allowing him to take office when elected would be disastrous.

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                not allowing him to take office when elected would be disastrous

                It would have been many orders of magnitude less disastrous than the alternative.

                Sure, cutting off your cancerous hand would’ve been traumatic. But survivable.

                Now, however, said hand is so far up your arse that it’s ripped apart your colon in several places and you’re bleeding to death while experiencing horrible agony, and spraying all your neighbours with blood and feces.

                You could have recovered from getting rid of Trump, but there’s no coming back from what you’ve allowed him to do to your country, and the world.

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                  No. No it would not have. Your talking about doing something trump has not done yet. It would accelerate the problems by putting us at worse case in january of 2025 rather than in late 2026.

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        You wanted a dictatorship to stop a dictatorship.

        Given the current state of affairs, I’m not clear how a Permanent Biden-o-cracy was supposed to be worse.

        Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

        Well, thank god we don’t officially lose our Democracy for another eighteen months.

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          its worse because it would be 18 months sooner. Its like climate change. It won’t help if we were at 5 degrees now instead of 1.5. That would not fix it.

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        I wanted the traitor coward Merrick Garland to do his motherfucking job and prosecute that POS and throw him in federal prison while making him completely unable to appear on any ballot.

        Thanks for asking.

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          Garland did what he was hired to do. He slow walked the investigations so biden could run against trump again because biden knew he couldn’t beat anyone better.

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      “How dare you break the laws - we should have broken the laws to stop you from breaking the laws.”

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        All Biden needed to do was have Trump assassinated - as an official presidential action, it would have been perfectly legal according to Trump’s precedent.

        Follow that up with a “Y’all see why this is maybe not the greatest idea to give the ol’ prez this much power? Repeal it, then I’ma fuck off to some beach somewhere.”

        Boom. Democracy saved, all without breaking the law.

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              Probably the pertinent bit: “Sulla revived the office of dictator, which had been dormant since the Second Punic War, over a century before. He used his powers to purge his opponents (“Sulla’s proscription”), and reform Roman constitutional laws, to restore the primacy of the Senate and limit the power of the tribunes of the plebs. Resigning his dictatorship in 79 BC, Sulla retired to private life and died the following year. Later political leaders such as Julius Caesar followed the precedent set by Sulla with his military coup to attain political power through force.”

              Dude made himself dictator, reformed laws, purged his political rivals then gave it all up to go live in his villa once he felt he’d achieved his goals of putting the republic back on the rails. Julius Caesar later remarked that the one mistake Sulla made was that he gave up the power he had seized.

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                Oh gotcha. Guess I skimmed right passed that bit. But yeah, pretty much that exactly, except the whole dictator can of worms is already open.

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    This is what Alligator Auschwitz is really for.

    America, your opportunity to stop this is narrowing and walking around with signs once a month on a weekend isn’t gonna do it.

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      Every week, more people show up. I’m involved in local politics besides.

      You’re slamming people for being involved. They are doing something being out there.

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        Forming connections at low stakes events like protests is exactly what people need to do. That lot talks like anyone who doesn’t buy an AK and a red beret first thing is just wasting time.

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        I don’t think people understand what fascism really is. Fascism doesn’t obey the rule of law at all, it is fascism especially if it fights it. Once a fascist raise to power, you’re done, marching is useless now. Only guns.

        It’s time for Americans to repay the world for all the horrendous atrocities they committed and show the world they are not like this. If they won’t, collapse is the right price to pay.

        And please stop cry, none of the country you invaded “exporting democracy” whined like this. It’s really pathetic, especially because you did it to yourself, no invading country needed. Get your guns and start shooting.

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        I’m not slamming people for being involved. I’m slamming them for being ineffectual. A sign isn’t going to stop a determined fascist.

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    The article says the constitution say a president can’t change voting rules, but this president has the house, the senate and the judges.

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      He doesn’t give a shit about the constitution. He’ll just have the slimy ratfucks around him sort it out and then take all the credit for it. It’ll be a “big, beautiful amendment” or some dumb shit that both amuses the smooth-brained among us and gives the media phrase they’ll parrot with zero irony or pushback.

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    That was a very weird article…

    To the point I googled the source and apparently it’s a 90 year old Maxist-Leninist newspaper. Which kind of explains the writing style and lack of sources.

    They do have “left” lean, but it always feels off because those people also are super into authoritarianism. So it’s less about presenting enough for someone to understand and form an opinion, and more like telling their readers an opinion along with a few facts that were found after the fact to be used to defend it.

    To be clear; Trump’s 1500% going to try and steal the election, but everyone already knows that. There is zero new information on the article and I’m pretty sure everyone that didn’t vote for trump has came to the same conclusion…

    Marxist/Leninists writing just always gives me something like the uncanny valley feeling. I don’t care how it’s dressed up, or if the person speaking/writing agrees with my existing opinion, I can’t fucking stand them. I guess it’s “the ick”

    Better sources have been covering all of this for months already.

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      Can you link the better sources? After a skim for sources I found 7, is that not enough for you for a short article?

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        The two big things it references:

        Save act:

        The SAVE Act would require that individuals registering to vote show “documentary proof of United States citizenship,” including when they re-register after moving to a new state.

        https://www.factcheck.org/2025/02/will-save-act-prevent-married-women-from-registering-to-vote/

        And an EO from 3/25 (that they didn’t provide the name of:

        President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed a sweeping executive action to overhaul U.S. elections, including requiring documentary proof of citizenship to register to vote in federal elections and demanding that all ballots be received by Election Day

        https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-3-25-2025

        They both do the same thing, and happened months ago…

        But to be fair, I often overestimate how much a random person remembers. They’re not wrong with their opinion on what all this means.

        It’s just the way they present it often feels too much like trump for the average person to listen.

        Because of all the reasons I said in the last comment.

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        The ratio of sourced content to editorial rant is just too low. You have to really be committed to go through the article to figure out concretely what the hell they are taking about. Most of it is just reiterating how outrageous it is and how an alphabet soup of leftist organizations are either outages or should be outraged, and a vague list of the measures that are outrageous that is mostly focused on why it is outrageous rather than what the actual measures are. It eventually does concretely describe two things, the id requirement and the voting infrastructure audits, but that’s a tiny fraction of the article.

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      Good news, you’ll never have to feel the ick of an equitable economy or being part of a society that prioritizes the wellbeing of its citizenry over GDP here in the west.

      Phew amirite? Enjoy capitalist paradise! Participation is voluntary*

      *voluntary participation subject to dying in the gutter of exposure and capital defense force brutality if poor citizen fails to volunteer for capitalist exploitation. The owner class reserves all rights to kill you anyway if you threaten quarterly earnings estimates such as drawing on Healthcare benefits you paid into when you need to use them.

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        Nah. I’m an actual communist

        My policy positions make Vladimir Lenin look like Hillary Clinton.

        My problem with Marxist-Leninists, is the authoritarianism, which is the worst part about trump too.

        Does it make sense now?

        I think authoritarianism is bad, and even if an authoritarian agrees with me on every aspect of policy, I’ll never be on their side.

        It’s a difference at a fundamental level.

        Quick edit:

        As simple as possible, they topped out at what people need to survive, a giant population of people getting just enough to live and work, to support a ruling class of politicians who were essentially oligarchs.

        I think everyone should have enough to be comfortable because without that life is still miserable for 99.99% of the population, it’s switching out one ruling class for another.

        That’s not a win, it’s not changing the game. It’s shuffling the cards and playing the same game we know isn’t good.

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            Not even sure what that is, but anyone wanti g anarchism likely doesn’t know what that means.

            Like, if there’s anarcho-luddittes out there who thinks we should completely destroy society and go back to living in the forest in tribes of ~150 people…

            I wouldnt agree with them that it’s the best path, but I wouldn’t consider them hypocritical because at least they understand where anarchism would lead and are being honest about it

            For everything else with “anarcho” tacked on the front, I feel it’s safe to say I’d disagree with them without looking into what they’re about.



            I did go ahead and Google that before hitting reply, just to be safe since I honestly hadn’t heard that term before.

            And that’s just putting trade unions in charge, which would end up the same as any other ruling class.

            I’m saying there shouldn’t be a ruling class at all.

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          My problem with Marxist-Leninists, is the authoritarianism

          So you’re an “actual communist” who never bothered to actually read anything Marx or Engels wrote.

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      Nobody reads anything longer than a paragraph, nobody watches anything longer than a youtube short linked on facebook.

      We are here because we allowed comfort and convenience to rot all our collective brains. We are all accountable, we all had a role to play, even if tiny. We could have rallied together, we could have pushed community action and worked harder to preserve progressive ideology. We could have stopped giving so much freedom to the people trying to take away all our freedom. We could have stopped buying shiny new phones and cars and demanded products that last and union protections for our workers.

      But no, we thought it was funny when 4channers started screaming about how evil feminists were and laughed it off instead of having their nests burnt down and we instead started our decades-long obsession scrolling for dopamine instead of involving ourselves with the people who run our communities.

      If we had claimed the flag, if we had been the ones screaming about our rights to own guns and how we wanted to make america great, if we had been the ones getting arrested for plowing our cars into groups of nazis, we would be the ones with the muscle right now setting social policy. But just saying that is probably setting off some of ya’ll and that’s what the problem is.

      I promise you, the other side isn’t balking at rhetoric like that and are actively encouraging it, and have won every round because of it.

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        You never heard of YouTube summaries or are you too smart for that?

        Idc what you have to say with that shitty ‘im smarter than everyone else’ attitude. You’re not.

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          Boasting about using youtube summaries is not the flex you think it is.

          I would let you know at this point you’re blocked, but I have a strong feeling you stopped reading after the first paragraph and said “I ain’t readin all that.”

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        “Nobody reads anything longer than a paragraph, nobody watches anything longer than a youtube short linked on facebook.”

        very true, person who shared a big wall o’ text.

        what’s the TLDR?

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            Funny, I thought the same thing about you, otherwise I don’t know why you’d make such a broad claim while simultaneously violating the foundation of said claim. FYI I’m still waiting on your TLDR for your wall of text.

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              I mean, if you’re trying to throw shade for some reason it doesn’t make sense how you went about it. The thesis of my comment is ragging on idiots with short attention spans, so for someone to jump in and complain the comment was too long for them to read is absurd, it’s a self-own. I feel like if you are serious you are either extremely stoned or exactly who I’m referencing in my comment, so I’m wondering what exactly you think you’re making me feel with that kind of response? It’s either mindless bot-posting or your trolling so deeply that I don’t get the meta-layers and wouldn’t care either way.

              If something someone says on the internet offends you or you disagree with them, you have to address the content of the material, and not LITERALLY embody the caricature of the stereotype being called out. I can’t grasp someone missing that basic concept and it’s genuinely hilarious.

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                Throw shade? No, but I am being reminded when people fail to communicate adequately they tend to lash out.

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                  No, you’re still in the upside-down, you replied to me, that means you failed to comprehend something. That’s a skill issue. I didn’t fail to communicate, you failed to be able to read, yet your brain is making you think this is someone else’s fault and you’re not letting it go, like… this is fascinating, you take this seriously?

                  I am engaging because you genuinely amuse me and make me a little curious what backwards narration takes place in other people’s minds.

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      Honestly, it felt like reading Alice in wonderland on crack. By the time I got to the end it was all so fucking crazy I couldn’t remember most of what was in it

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    JuSt VoTe NeXt TiMe!!!

    And every time I tell people we won’t get a vote they laugh at me. Holy fuck, people just don’t get how severe and horrible this administration is. We can’t remove them for abuse of law, we can barely counter their worst abuses just to have them win in the end, and we’re about to have them as dictators for life with no voting.

    I honestly think the only solution is to leave this damned country. But guess what, unless you have a decent amount of money, that’s out, too.

    We’re fucked

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      The problem is so much worse than voting. The last two election cycles showed the highest turnout of voters and young voters in recorded American history.

      The problem was not that nobody voted, the problem was the voters had no idea what was going on or who to vote for because all our collective brains have scrolled right out our ears and people have atomized perspectives and don’t interact with each other anymore, allowing our nation to curdle, to fester into a million little sub-groups where you face no challenges, no backlash, no accountability and your every delusion will have a fanbase.

      We did all this while POURING money into the industrial complexes that only seek to sell you marginally better products that fall apart of become obsolete within a few years, powering the corporations that own our politicians.

      The average median voter has no idea what’s real or not, has no interest in policy, has no idea how policy even works or what our branches of government are, and has been scrolling for so long that they don’t know how to be alone with their own thoughts. That’s why Trump and his ilk are shredding the country apart right now. We didn’t fight the idiots hard enough because we weren’t social and involved enough to make them feel shame. We could have used shame as our mightiest weapon because they are radically insecure and scared of being shamed, but apparently our side was equally scared, so the dumb billionaires with too much wealth to even feel shame won out in the end.

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      Holy fuck, people just don’t get how severe and horrible this administration is.

      People used to say that Steve Jobs had a reality distortion field, but I think Trump is a thousand times worse.

      It’s so bad and the standards are so different between him and just about anybody else, sometimes the 0.01% chance that he’s the world’s best actor rather than an idiot and/or Russian asset scares me even more.

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    trump is getting more and more desperate as the days go on, when epstein files arnt released, and mounting pressure and more evidence showing up about his pedophelia, the tariffs arnt really distracting as it use to be, Also its not like elections were free or fair to begin with, significant tampering has been done by the gop on local,state and presidential for a while.

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      Trump figured out that there is nothing he cannot do. A little boo hop from the public and everybody moves on. He has proved that he is above the law and he damn well knows it. The 2nd greatest cult in history gives so much power to its leader and he knows it. Only Congress has power collectively to stop him and they already checked out of all morality and righteous authority in USA government a long time ago.

      Guys. Come to terms with this. Just as the world came to terms with it 80 years ago with Germany. We are heading down that tunnel there is only one outcome of this. It gets much much worse before the actual tipping point happens.

      I don’t want to live in the world after that event. It will take decades to rebuild, if not centuries for the nuclear toxicity to return to safe levels.

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    Buy guns. Buy ammo. Help others acquire guns and ammo.

    Train. Help others train.

    Form networks.

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      When voting with your voice doesn’t work, and voting with your money doesn’t work, all that left to vote with, is lead.

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          If lead isn’t working, you haven’t used enough of it. Can’t have a problem if the problem-makers are all dead to a man. Or if necessary, to a child.

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            What if the problem makers are holed up in a bunker thousands of miles away remotely sending drones to kill you? How much lead does that take?

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              I suppose in that case you lay siege and starve them out. Cut off all materials in our out. Supplies run out, and so do million dollar weapons, eventually. Ideally it never gets to that point but what other recourse do you have to stop the march of dystopia?

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                You’re going to lay siege from thousands of miles away while being killed by autonomous death robots?

                Okay, good luck.

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      Let’s say 500 of your closest neighbors and friends all buy AR-15s with the best optics money can buy and all the green tips you can eat. And you all secretly spend 60 hours a week drilling in modern combat.

      What are you going to do against a tank? Or a jet? Or just artillery fire? And “hit and run” tactics don’t work when there are cameras on every street corner and it is a trivial problem to track people back to their suburbs.

      If The Right To Bear Arms were actually a threat to those in power then you can be damned sure it would have been repealed faster than a kindergartener can cry for their parents.

      Resistance is important and I recommend you go to protests and actually talk with the organizers. No, not the ones who are thinking up catchy slogans or what cool costumes everyone can wear. The old hats. The ones who are actually pulling people however many steps back from the curb they need to be or who are looking for idiots with guns who will get everyone killed. Make some friends and go from there.

      But all you are doing with “buy guns and train” is the same bullshit that republicans have been getting off on for decades. White people get to take hostages and occupy buildings. But in the eyes of the fascists? We’re all n*****s.

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        What are you going to do against a tank? Or a jet? Or just artillery fire? And “hit and run” tactics don’t work when there are cameras on every street corner and it is a trivial problem to track people back to their suburbs.

        I agree with everything except this. Those cameras are getting smashed day one. Jets and artillery are very unlikely to happen in our scenario here. APCs and AFVs? Oh absolutely, and we don’t even need to have the military for that, even your podunk PD has armored vehicles now. But they’re not as durable as a tank. Wheeled ones are more susceptible to mobility kills. Building dragon’s teeth and porcupines isn’t hard. And there are plenty of IED and urban warfare guides available, even from the US military…

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          1. You very much underestimate how many cameras are out there or how reachable they are
          2. If you start building dragons teeth in bumfuck Wisconsin you are going to get mortared.
          3. If you start building dragons teeth in DC you are getting droned.
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        People who push this kind of thinking still think warfare is carried out and progresses like it did in the Napoleonic era: two orderly opposed fronts clashing head-to-head in theaters with well-defined boundaries - where the adversary with more guns/people/resources win. Because more guns/people directly equates to military power, right?

        These folks would do well to spend even the slightest amount of time learning about fourth generational, guerilla war. The fact that bullets ping off of tank armor does not disprove guerilla war.

        Let’s take this meme back a couple hundred years and cast you as a counter revolutonary American at the onset of the revolutonary war.

        /*Wants to have muskets to fend off british empire

        /*british empire:

        Starts to seem silly when you realize even our founding fathers were doing guerilla warfare not long ago.

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          During the American Revolutionary War/Napoleonic War, do you know what a local militia with muskets or even breach loading rifles were good for? Sending into the meat grinder and taking out with artillery.

          The ONLY time The Holy Second Amendment was ever a threat to a government was, funny enough, “The Wild West” in the US. That brief window where logistics made deploying the military difficult but everyone and their mother had repeating rifles and pistols and could even get a gatling gun for not TOO much money. Which, funny enough, led to the rise in what were basically PMCs to take out said ruffians and has persisted to today in the form of the over-militarized police force and the idea that you need a full kill team in every village.

          As for “Just fight a guerilla war”: I am not interested in the American Revolutionary War (even though all the same arguments hold true…). The US and Russia have both bled and eventually abandoned countries like Afghanistan as the losses became too high to justify the occupation. But basically any time there was a stand up fight, they won overwhelmingly because of things like Helicopters, Tanks, and Artillery.

          But then you look at groups like ISIS and warlords in Africa and the chaos that was left in the wake of South America. THOSE forces defeated their guerillas. Why? Because the occupying force actually gave a shit about the land and wanted to keep it. And they didn’t care about public opinion on what they were doing (see also: Israel’s genocide). Some kids run out of the woods, shoot a few people, scream “WILDCATS”, and start macking? Cool. Go round up a dozen people in the town square and execute them. And make it clear that if said wildcats aren’t turned over by next week, another dozen people will be executed. See how fast support for the guerillas goes away. Even better, you know they are hiding in the suburbs near Delancy Street? Set up a perimeter and go door to door executing people until you find them.

          Which gets back to your super timely example from the 1700s. Where the Brits basically said “Fuck it, we don’t care” due to the colonies being a whole ocean away and increasing unrest in India. And… India was a LOT more valuable than a bunch of jackasses who didn’t want to pay taxes.

          But hey. I am sure with your rifles you can totally lead a guerilla war that makes the republican government abandon the United States because casualties are too high, I guess? It worked for Captain Soap in Call of Duty maybe?

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            Buddy.

            It sounds like your entire argument is “Do nothing because what’s the point?”

            You can do nothing and die if things escalate too far. That’s your choice. The rest of us will do something. Because in the face of living under fascism, why the fuck wouldn’t we?

            An intelligent person would prepare for that eventuality. A dumb person spends their time throwing their hands up and trying to dissuade others from preparing.

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              Yes. An intelligent person prepares for eventualities. But in a manner that actually makes a difference.

              If all you want to do is buy a bunch of guns and masturbate furiously, go for it. Hell, the republicans will probably think you are one of them since that is indistinguishable from what all the gun nuts say.

              If you want to actually make a difference and resist? Like I said. Talk to the old hats at those protests. We are thinking this through and actually studying past events. We just aren’t talking about it on a public social media site where all we know about the admins are they bent over backwards to cover their asses when luigi allegedly blapped that guy.

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                Yes. An intelligent person prepares for eventualities. But in a manner that actually makes a difference.

                But that’s not what you’re doing. Your only suggestion thus far is to protest. I’ve already made it clear to you that if a fascist regime becomes too entrenched then protests mean nothing. And your plan beyond that is to give up and die and try to convince others to do the same.

                Protest, by all means, while you can. What I’m talking about, since my very first post, is preparing for what happens if protests don’t work. You don’t have a plan for that, other than giving up. I mean, you keep talking about “talk to the old hats”, like that actually means something. Do you want to elaborate? Cuz beyond protesting it seems like “talk to the old hats” means organize an actual resistance, which is exactly what I’m talking about.

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        What are you going to do against a tank? Or a jet? Or just artillery fire?

        I’m going to say the same thing I say to everyone that brings this up thinking they’ve hit on some infallible logic.

        Small arms are all you need to eliminate people at the top of command structures, thus collapsing those command structures. A sniper named Simo Häyhä had over 500 confirmed kills during WW2. His job was basically to find and kill officers. He survived the war. You can also look at the Vietnam War. The U.S. was technologically superior to the Vietnamese. We still lost and went home without our mission accomplished. Same thing in the Middle East. Never actually accomplished our goals. Went home. Because it’s really hard to deal with enemies using guerilla tactics with typical firearms.

        You don’t seem to understand that protests, while important, don’t make fascists stop being fascists. Force has always been required to put down fascist movements. If this goes far enough there will come a time when protests don’t matter, at all. When that time comes are you gonna let a fascist put a bullet through the back of your skull or are you gonna pick up a firearm and do something? Can’t do that if you don’t have firearms. Can’t do that if you haven’t trained. Can’t do that alone.

        If this escalates far enough and people don’t do as I suggested, there will be no resistance beyond protests, which won’t be enough.

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          I literally just pointed out the “grab a gun and scream wildcats” fallacy below. Again, what is going to happen? The republicans will have experienced so many losses that they, what, pull out of the US and leave it to The Insurgents?

          When that time comes are you gonna let a fascist put a bullet through the back of your skull or are you gonna pick up a firearm and do something?

          Again, what are your rifles and even homemade molotovs going to do against tanks and drones and artillery? Sure, you’ll kill a few soldiers on the ground. They will then pull back and bomb the fuck out of you. Or they’ll just hop in the APC a shocking number of police stations have and run you down while watching tiktok on their phones

          As for “just snipe officials”: Wow. It really is THAT simple.

          By the way, have you considered heading over to Gaza and teaching the Palestinians how to resist? They got guns and they got will. So really, the only problem is they aren’t sniping the right people and killing enough soldiers per day for Israel to pull out, right? I mean, it isn’t like there is a difference between a “peace keeping” force and occupiers who want to eradicate all resistance, right?

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            Then give up and die. That is your choice. I don’t really care. You aren’t useful in the scenario we’re talking about so I’m not too concerned about what happens to you. You’re dead weight.

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    What do you mean “revealed” as if this is news? I thought this was the plan the whole fucking time.