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      I don’t think that degree of optimism is justified.

      My notes on this are a little old, but:

      No VRA protections, voter purges/caging (Crosscheck), targeted disenfranchisement & gerrymandering, insecure/unauditable voting machines, undermined census, and gaming the electoral college, all impact the fairness of our elections, on top of the naive first-past-the-post implementation.

      • https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/20/this-anti-voter-fraud-program-gets-it-wrong-over-99-of-the-time-the-gop-wants-to-take-it-nationwide/
      • https://capitolfax.com/2017/10/13/dem-house-members-want-state-to-withdraw-from-flawed-national-voter-registration-crosscheck-system/
      • https://capitolfax.com/2017/10/19/accidental-and-apparently-harmless-password-leak-could-prompt-move-away-from-crosscheck-program/
      • http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article184229328.html
      • https://www.thenation.com/article/house-republicans-just-voted-to-eliminate-the-only-federal-agency-that-makes-sure-voting-machines-cant-be-hacked/
      • https://apnews.com/af2f0ede054d8baebbe1bb6ca47b4895
      • https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/09/rnc-ballot-security-consent-decree-328995
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      Nobody reads anything longer than a paragraph, nobody watches anything longer than a youtube short linked on facebook.

      We are here because we allowed comfort and convenience to rot all our collective brains. We are all accountable, we all had a role to play, even if tiny. We could have rallied together, we could have pushed community action and worked harder to preserve progressive ideology. We could have stopped giving so much freedom to the people trying to take away all our freedom. We could have stopped buying shiny new phones and cars and demanded products that last and union protections for our workers.

      But no, we thought it was funny when 4channers started screaming about how evil feminists were and laughed it off instead of having their nests burnt down and we instead started our decades-long obsession scrolling for dopamine instead of involving ourselves with the people who run our communities.

      If we had claimed the flag, if we had been the ones screaming about our rights to own guns and how we wanted to make america great, if we had been the ones getting arrested for plowing our cars into groups of nazis, we would be the ones with the muscle right now setting social policy. But just saying that is probably setting off some of ya’ll and that’s what the problem is.

      I promise you, the other side isn’t balking at rhetoric like that and are actively encouraging it, and have won every round because of it.

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        “Nobody reads anything longer than a paragraph, nobody watches anything longer than a youtube short linked on facebook.”

        very true, person who shared a big wall o’ text.

        what’s the TLDR?

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        You never heard of YouTube summaries or are you too smart for that?

        Idc what you have to say with that shitty ‘im smarter than everyone else’ attitude. You’re not.

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          Boasting about using youtube summaries is not the flex you think it is.

          I would let you know at this point you’re blocked, but I have a strong feeling you stopped reading after the first paragraph and said “I ain’t readin all that.”

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      Honestly, it felt like reading Alice in wonderland on crack. By the time I got to the end it was all so fucking crazy I couldn’t remember most of what was in it

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    Not sure how much I can trust that source. And no right-winger will ever accept it either.

    Anyone with a more direct link to a source about this?

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      Agreed, that article was kind of a mess., and you really have to already agree with it to stay along for the ride. Even as someone who shares their general perspective, I can’t help but to get the same vibe as I do reading unhinged conservative outlets, just from a different side. The wiring style evokes a feeling more of unsubstantiated unhinged conspiracy theory than a concrete writeup.

      A lot of time is spent name dropping organizations and you have to already know them to have any idea why you might want to care about them, but not saying concretely what exactly it is, just that it is hard right nonsense that every acronym they can mention is outraged over. They even name drop the UAW in a way that lets them type it in but without citing then on the actual current reality, because the UAW hasn’t really come out against Trump.

      When it gets to describing the actual “plan”, it mostly still didn’t explain exactly what it is talking about. It eventually gets to concretely mentioning two precise things, the requirement to prove citizenship in way that may be disproportionately difficult for people who had a name change, and an onerous voting certification. The rest of the elements are left too vague to try to understand.

      This article may help keep up the attention and energy of folks already keeping up with this stuff, but anyone vaguely on a fence won’t make it through the first paragraph without getting a bit skeptical, and almost certainly won’t make it to the meat of the article before giving up and moving on to other articles.

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    JuSt VoTe NeXt TiMe!!!

    And every time I tell people we won’t get a vote they laugh at me. Holy fuck, people just don’t get how severe and horrible this administration is. We can’t remove them for abuse of law, we can barely counter their worst abuses just to have them win in the end, and we’re about to have them as dictators for life with no voting.

    I honestly think the only solution is to leave this damned country. But guess what, unless you have a decent amount of money, that’s out, too.

    We’re fucked

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      The problem is so much worse than voting. The last two election cycles showed the highest turnout of voters and young voters in recorded American history.

      The problem was not that nobody voted, the problem was the voters had no idea what was going on or who to vote for because all our collective brains have scrolled right out our ears and people have atomized perspectives and don’t interact with each other anymore, allowing our nation to curdle, to fester into a million little sub-groups where you face no challenges, no backlash, no accountability and your every delusion will have a fanbase.

      We did all this while POURING money into the industrial complexes that only seek to sell you marginally better products that fall apart of become obsolete within a few years, powering the corporations that own our politicians.

      The average median voter has no idea what’s real or not, has no interest in policy, has no idea how policy even works or what our branches of government are, and has been scrolling for so long that they don’t know how to be alone with their own thoughts. That’s why Trump and his ilk are shredding the country apart right now. We didn’t fight the idiots hard enough because we weren’t social and involved enough to make them feel shame. We could have used shame as our mightiest weapon because they are radically insecure and scared of being shamed, but apparently our side was equally scared, so the dumb billionaires with too much wealth to even feel shame won out in the end.

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      Holy fuck, people just don’t get how severe and horrible this administration is.

      People used to say that Steve Jobs had a reality distortion field, but I think Trump is a thousand times worse.

      It’s so bad and the standards are so different between him and just about anybody else, sometimes the 0.01% chance that he’s the world’s best actor rather than an idiot and/or Russian asset scares me even more.

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    "…So far, other than the report itself, by the Brennan Center for Law and Justice at New York University, there’s been little—or little-noticed—response. "

    You heard it here first folks. PeoplesWor|d is sharing some groundbreaking news that nobody else is even willing to report!

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    The article says the constitution say a president can’t change voting rules, but this president has the house, the senate and the judges.

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      He doesn’t give a shit about the constitution. He’ll just have the slimy ratfucks around him sort it out and then take all the credit for it. It’ll be a “big, beautiful amendment” or some dumb shit that both amuses the smooth-brained among us and gives the media phrase they’ll parrot with zero irony or pushback.

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    Fucking Russia and CCP run China in the USA. That is some 3rd World crap right there and the Blue States should tell Canada to annex them ASAP.

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    Beginning to question the inherent wisdom of “Normal transition of power” when Biden handed the keys of the kingdom to a guy who openly planned to lock all the doors and shoot the next guy elected to walk through them.

    But hey, I guess it would have been against the rules not to meekly empower a fascist dictatorship.

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      I love these comments that always place the blame on Biden, instead of you know, the actual fucking fascists. JFC.

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        I think it is because you can’t reason with these idiot fascists, but we could have reasoned with Biden.

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      Probably what will happen is anyone who might challenge them will suddenly be arrested on Trumped-Up charges.

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      I hope you are being cheeky by saying ‘beginning to’, it was immensely obvious this was the plan going back to, at bare minimum, about a year before the election, when Trump just kept saying he was gonna serve 3 terms, his supporters wouldn’t have to vote again, etc.

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      So what. You wanted a dictatorship to stop a dictatorship. Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

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        Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

        Once people who’ve sworn to end democracy are given the power to end democracy, then it’s game over for democracy.

        Preventing a corrupt criminal who’s a known agent of a hostile foreign powers from becoming president is a healthy thing to do.

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          If the electorate in a democracy want to end democracy, then it’s game over. You can’t save that.

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            Unless the democracy has systemic flaws that allow it to be captured by minority rule, and that minority voting block disenfranchises enough of the opposition to take all power from the majority.

            This wasn’t a democracy in anything more than name before the election.

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          As would be preventing officials voted into office in a democracy but sooner. There is still a chance as of now as he has not stopped elections yet.

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        Congratulations, you just discovered the paradox of tolerance.

        And, yeah, essentially, in order to survive, a democratic society cannot allow those who seek to destroy it to participate in the democratic process.

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          Nope. I have been aware of the paradox of tolerance for awhile and its a little shoehorning to put this situation into it. Your talking about a case of allowing an elected official to take office not tolerating speech.

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            An elected official who repeatedly stated and demonstrated his intention of preventing any future elections and destroying democracy.

            An elected official, therefore, who should never have been allowed to run for office in the first place (this isn’t the only reason he shouldn’t have been allowed, of course, in a sane country he’d also been unelectable due to his criminal record, lack of any semblance of mental health, and intellectual insufficiency, but it’s the most important).

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              Ill agree he should not have been able to run but that was a failure of congress or in other words other people elected under the democracy to office. Not allowing him to run would have been great but not allowing him to take office when elected would be disastrous.

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                not allowing him to take office when elected would be disastrous

                It would have been many orders of magnitude less disastrous than the alternative.

                Sure, cutting off your cancerous hand would’ve been traumatic. But survivable.

                Now, however, said hand is so far up your arse that it’s ripped apart your colon in several places and you’re bleeding to death while experiencing horrible agony, and spraying all your neighbours with blood and feces.

                You could have recovered from getting rid of Trump, but there’s no coming back from what you’ve allowed him to do to your country, and the world.

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                  No. No it would not have. Your talking about doing something trump has not done yet. It would accelerate the problems by putting us at worse case in january of 2025 rather than in late 2026.

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        You wanted a dictatorship to stop a dictatorship.

        Given the current state of affairs, I’m not clear how a Permanent Biden-o-cracy was supposed to be worse.

        Once the normal transition of power is not followed its game over for our democracy.

        Well, thank god we don’t officially lose our Democracy for another eighteen months.

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          its worse because it would be 18 months sooner. Its like climate change. It won’t help if we were at 5 degrees now instead of 1.5. That would not fix it.

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        I wanted the traitor coward Merrick Garland to do his motherfucking job and prosecute that POS and throw him in federal prison while making him completely unable to appear on any ballot.

        Thanks for asking.

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          Garland did what he was hired to do. He slow walked the investigations so biden could run against trump again because biden knew he couldn’t beat anyone better.

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      “How dare you break the laws - we should have broken the laws to stop you from breaking the laws.”

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        All Biden needed to do was have Trump assassinated - as an official presidential action, it would have been perfectly legal according to Trump’s precedent.

        Follow that up with a “Y’all see why this is maybe not the greatest idea to give the ol’ prez this much power? Repeal it, then I’ma fuck off to some beach somewhere.”

        Boom. Democracy saved, all without breaking the law.

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              Probably the pertinent bit: “Sulla revived the office of dictator, which had been dormant since the Second Punic War, over a century before. He used his powers to purge his opponents (“Sulla’s proscription”), and reform Roman constitutional laws, to restore the primacy of the Senate and limit the power of the tribunes of the plebs. Resigning his dictatorship in 79 BC, Sulla retired to private life and died the following year. Later political leaders such as Julius Caesar followed the precedent set by Sulla with his military coup to attain political power through force.”

              Dude made himself dictator, reformed laws, purged his political rivals then gave it all up to go live in his villa once he felt he’d achieved his goals of putting the republic back on the rails. Julius Caesar later remarked that the one mistake Sulla made was that he gave up the power he had seized.

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                Oh gotcha. Guess I skimmed right passed that bit. But yeah, pretty much that exactly, except the whole dictator can of worms is already open.

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    What do you mean “revealed” as if this is news? I thought this was the plan the whole fucking time.

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    What is in this article that we didn’t already know? Is there any new legislation in process of being passed? This just sounds like the same playbook we used for the 2024 election to me.

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    This is what Alligator Auschwitz is really for.

    America, your opportunity to stop this is narrowing and walking around with signs once a month on a weekend isn’t gonna do it.

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      Every week, more people show up. I’m involved in local politics besides.

      You’re slamming people for being involved. They are doing something being out there.

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        Forming connections at low stakes events like protests is exactly what people need to do. That lot talks like anyone who doesn’t buy an AK and a red beret first thing is just wasting time.

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        I don’t think people understand what fascism really is. Fascism doesn’t obey the rule of law at all, it is fascism especially if it fights it. Once a fascist raise to power, you’re done, marching is useless now. Only guns.

        It’s time for Americans to repay the world for all the horrendous atrocities they committed and show the world they are not like this. If they won’t, collapse is the right price to pay.

        And please stop cry, none of the country you invaded “exporting democracy” whined like this. It’s really pathetic, especially because you did it to yourself, no invading country needed. Get your guns and start shooting.

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        I’m not slamming people for being involved. I’m slamming them for being ineffectual. A sign isn’t going to stop a determined fascist.