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    No.

    No, no, no, no, no!

    Is she looking at Feinstein and thinking “well, I don’t need to be propped up yet, so I should still be able to run the country!”

    I don’t care on which side of the aisle these oldies sit. They do not represent the will of a people who are largely younger than they are by two decades.

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      No, she’s looking at her and her husband’s bank accounts and thinking “well, I don’t need to be propped up yet, so I can continue to be grossly corrupt and get even richer”

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          She was # 6 in 2021, # 1 to 5 were all Republicans.

          Then things didn’t go as well in 2022

          So how about we start paying attention to Republican tradings? 👍

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            Republicans are masters of messaging. They latch onto one thing for one person and pound it over and over again. The left accepts that these are bad things (they are) but won’t whatabout enough about the Republicans that do it worse, so this becomes Pelosi’s image while those that do it worse are unknown.

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            While you are right this has zero to do with whatever party you want to idolize it’s a problem for all sides we need to focus on all of them, none of these clowns should be able to make trades, they are in positions where they actually can shape the outcomes of their trades that’s fucking ridiculous

            And on topic there needs to be some realistic term limits for these jackasses especially when they start to get older, nothing wrong with being old but if you are running a country and you get stuck staring at cameras in a daze it’s time to go… ffs most people I know can’t wait to retire and would do so even earlier if they could yet these goblins are slopping it up at the trough

            This is a class issue always has been

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              Never said it wasn’t the case, I just pointed out the Pelosi is always the target when the fact is she’s not the worst and there’s zero attention put on any Republicans regarding that.

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              I’m just pointing out the fact that people are always pointing at Pelosi but she’s not the biggest culprit and no people aren’t putting as much attention on the people who are actually worse than her.

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        The average age of constituents in her district is 40. I cant figure out how she keeps getting elected, unless she’s just never had a peimary challenger worth a damn.

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    Hi, dem here. WE DONT WANT FUCKING ELDRITCH GODS REPRESENTING US anymore. Term limits. Term limits. Term limits.

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    She is widely credited with marshalling the passage of former President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare legislation, as well as bills to address infrastructure and climate change under incumbent President Joe Biden.

    Her big claim to fame…

    Getting republicans to vote for a more conservative healthcare plan than what the Republican candidate for president wanted to pass if he had won.

    It’s fucking disgusting moderates still act like that was the finish line over a decade later and oppose any more improvement to it, while demanding we call them progressive for it.

    Although, once you’re in your 70s, a decade probably feels like two weeks. Time flies when age related mental decline stops you from noticing the passage of time.

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      Hey, they had to get rid of the public option part and gut the bill to get some republican support! Ignore the fact that it was still passed entirely from a down party lines vote with zero republican support. They had to make it a shitty gutted bill for some reason. It was such an accomplishment forcing everyone to get healthcare from multi billion dollar companies with fat profit margins.

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    I respect older people, but at this age you really have no business being in high levels of government. Go retire and enjoy your life. If you want to, be an advisor to more junior members of congress. This wraithing is absurd.

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      Its a shame more people, especially younger people in the US, aren’t more into things like primaries and other voting besides presidential elections. Makes me wonder who would break through future elections and who they would appoint as a result.

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        because the system is designed to check against this! we cannot realistically outvote the cartoonishly dumb and convoluted primary system or the electoral college. after bernie got fucked over twice, how can anyone even have hope anymore? no one more progressive that pete fucking buttigeg is getting anywhere

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          Yeah Bernie losing the primary felt odd I thought more people preferred him over the rest

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            I live in a red state and during that election Bernie came to our state capitol and the crowd to see him was literally three city blocks deep from the stage. I had not seen anything like that in my life, ever.

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            The only person Trump was scared of during that election was Sanders. He’s on tape talking about it privately.

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          because the system is designed to check against this!

          Is it? Or is it only sustained by, let’s call it, a minimal voter turnout? That is, the system works as expected by those in play so long as voter turnout remains within historical trends which appear to sit under half of all eligible voters during non-presidential election years.

          If, however, people were moved to vote more between presidential elections, might that system not potentially begin to falter? Maybe it’s naive, but if one really believes they’ve rigged the system in their favor, don’t you think part of that rigging is built around downplaying the votes outside of those for president?

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        What are you talking about? “Young people” are turning out more at their age than prior generations at that age.

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          Now 3 of them instead of 2!

          Just kidding but it is nice to see voting percentage in the US go up

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    I’m in her district. This has given me a possibly-crazy idea. What if I registered to run against her? Hear me out.

    I don’t think that I could win. She’s been in the game for so long, I have no illusions. But, registering and announcing a campaign to challenge her might result in some national publication contacting me for a quote. I might be able to get a line in said publication and get people talking about it.

    “Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table.”

    I’d appreciate feedback on the value of doing something like this. Also, the likelihood that it would have the desired outcome. Also, thoughts on how this might be done.

    I’ve been kicking this idea around since this morning when I first saw this. I’m increasingly thinking that it sounds like a good idea. Thoughts?

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      I think the local DNC would have to “allow” it. Otherwise you’d run as something-other-than-Democratic.

      But all it would cost you is time, and maybe a small filling fee to find out.

      I say, go for it! It would at least shake up the geriatric incumbents a bit.

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        The local DNC could potentially work against you but they can’t stop you from running in the primary as long as you meet the requirements.

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          Awesome, that’s good to know! I just assumed they picked if there would be competition due to how some Republicans threatened to “primary” incumbents that didn’t fall in line.

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      Do it! As one of the most notable Democrats alive it’d be a near impossible task to unseat her, but maybe you get 20% of the vote and that’s not a terrible result. After that maybe someone more notable like a Mayor or state rep would run and maybe win. Shoot your shot!

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      Running in such a prominent campaign would probably make your life suck. Pelosi’s seasoned team would probably go through your entire life with a fine-toothed comb and spin anything remotely negative about you to make it seem like you were a serial killer. The Republicans, meanwhile, might throw money into supporting you without caring if you wanted their “help” just to make Pelosi’s life hell.

      There are probably already real challengers who actually want the job who you could support instead. If you donated to them and volunteered for them, they might make enough noise to at least get some headlines. And, you wouldn’t have to stick your own neck out.

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      “Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table.”

      Don’t stop with her. Make your platform about Glitch McConnell, Dianne “The Wraith” Feinstein, Chuck “Touch” Grassley, and every other member of Congress who can’t even claim to be a boomer because they were born before the end of WW2. Their generation built the America we have now; how’s it working out for y’all?

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      Here’s what you do, announce that you’re running, say your peace, and when you’re surfing that publicity wave, announce that you’re running for governor of California. No flaw!

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      I wish you would. Get your friends to do it too… “Nancy Pelosi Faces a Dozen Primary Challengers” might draw some more attention.

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    I’m angry at her, but more angry at the voters that reelect her. Get new blood into these positions.

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        While that does suck, there are options in the primary. So you can vote her out without voting for a Republican, if that’s anathema/unrealistic in her district.

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          Only if there is a primary. There often isn’t much of a challenge to the incumbent.

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            Also, Bernie Sanders. If they don’t want one particular person to win the primary, they’ll make sure it works out that way.

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    Fuck this horrible bitch. She fucking enriches herself via a marriage of her position and decision making with the stock market.

    Fucking disgusting, no fucking politician that votes on policy should be allowed to trade stocks.

    GET THE FUCK OUT AND STAY OUT YOU GERIATRIC FUCKING CORRUPT TRAITOR

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    Stocks aren’t going to inside trade themselves! Get out of the way you old cunt. Hopefully someone primaries her and the people in SF vote her out. Still worse to have a Republican in the seat but jfc this is infuriating.

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    The fucked up thing is that people are still gonna vote for her. No one cares about corruption or acrually having good political leaders, they just need their team to win like it’s some kind of stupid sport.

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      Or they know how important it is that the Republicans not win.

      It’s not just about keeping score and keeping points for the red team. The blue team is currently fighting for white supremacy, christian supremacy, male supremacy, and to change the rules to make any other political party irrelevant.

      If someone as wonderful as Mr. Rogers ran against Nancy Pelosi, but that person said he’d vote with his Republican colleagues on every important issue, his own personal qualities wouldn’t matter. He personally might not lie, cheat or steal, but he’d be supporting a party that openly does all those things.

      It sucks, but when it’s a first-past-the-post system with 2 major parties, you mostly have to hold your nose and vote against the greater evil.

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          Well, I’d say some sort of blind trust. That way, the only way they can influence their investments is making good decisions for the overall economy. Toss in some restrictions to require they avoid boomer-chip stocks. (Ie, s&p500 type investments would be okay, but not msft or any specific company. ETFs in general are too…easy to get around though.

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            Yeah, I agree but the problem with that is they can still time macro events that affect index funds and ETFs when they know about something big before the public, like covid.

            It should be managed and timed by someone independent and the trust just pays a salary or allowance on a schedule.

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              That’s the point of the BLIND trust.

              They’re not making the trades. They don’t even see where things are. they can’t time trade’s because they don’t make investment decisions. At all.

              They can still invest by dumping cash into an account and somebody managing it for them. Like the 401k managers the poors get :)

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      We do have age limits, but only minimum age. Any time there’s a min age, there needs to be a corresponding max age.

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      And some psychiatric tests, to see if she still has all the necessary faculties for decisions. The cognitive decay is as sure as death and taxes

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    She’s not the worst, but as I was reading, I thought she was dead until I made it to “seeks re-election”…

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    another canidate question what has your past politics done for me locally? even nationally? if the answer is unsure or maybe some tv propaganda answer that was fed to you then why do they deserve votes

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      You don’t think Pelosi has done anything to advance the Democratic agenda? I don’t live in her district, so I’m not sure about locally, but I do think she’s been highly influential nationally, and I personally think she has done a good job.

      That being said, her district is safe Democratic even if she doesn’t run. She should retire, enjoy the rest of her life with her family and leave feeling good about her accomplishments. It’s someone else’s job to carry on the work.

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            Nice disingenuous framing there. That’s 2 elections. Pelosi needs to go but saying shit like that doesn’t help anyone.

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                Why? A congressional term is 2 years. A Senate term is 6 years. Saying “it was x years/days/weeks ago” is totally unhelpful to the larger conversation. It’s reductive for no reason. And I think we both know you chose “hAlF a DeCaDe” for gravitas.

                Now, if you had said something like “Pelosi hasn’t sponsored any major legislation since x”, sure. Let’s talk. Honestly, fact is she’s a fundraising dynamo. I fucking hate it, but that’s the framework we’re working in. She brings in money and is thus valuable to the DNC. In an ideal world she’d be replaced with a progressive who isn’t an octogenarian. But that’s clearly not where we are yet.

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        Well we sure know she used her position to advance her wallet

        But yeah go off, defend this geriatric corrupt traitor. She’s not fucking special she’s a literal enemy of the people due to said corruption