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    Why do guys think they have to be muscle hunks to be attractive?

    [Posts pictures of 5 muscle hunks]

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      Maybe cause most archetypical examples people can think of are going to be from Hollywood and that pushes a muscled bodytype but the reason women are attracted to them is every reason but the bodytype. Look at the descriptors again, they are all based around the vibe.

      This whole thread is dudes missing the forest for the trees.

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        I actually 100% agree and have 0 problem with the text itself. But the selection of the men in the Venn diagram completely undermined the sentiment of the text.

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        But it is false. Women do prefer a muscled bodytype.

        Hell, men prefer looking at other men a muscled bodytype. It is scientifically proven that being conventionally attractive makes you more socially popular with basically everyone.

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        This, completely. Like does Stanley Tucci have toned muscles? Idk I was too busy listening to him talking passionately about Italian food

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        Everyone minus Jack Black and Joseph Quinn as Eddie Munson (intersection of line cook and elf prince only) is a hunk in my book. Jeremy Allen White can be argued either way, granted. But if people think the rest aren’t hunks they have an unrealistic body standard imho.

        Especially putting Cavil as Geralt on a list of supposed “non-muscle hunks”? Nonsense.

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          But yeah, cavil, near his superman size, is a physique that is difficult to obtain without chemical help for sure. Steroids have really warped society’s view of what size most people can get.

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          I don’t know his real name but the guy from shameless who is now the cook (as pictured) in his newer show has some guns on him.

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            Hey, I love Jack Black as much as the next guy. But you gotta be honest, he’s simply not a muscle hunk. He’s got the sauce, just not that one.

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              Jack Black lost a LOT of points kneeling to the trump boot and kicking the band to the curb over a fucking joke about a Nazi getting shot. 🤦‍♂️

              Everything he’s made since Jumanji has been utter slop as well.

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    There is exactly one dude on that chart that doesn’t look like he regularly goes to the gym.

    There are several who have posed in muscle magazines shirtless.

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    I love everyone in the comments trying to argue what is the objectively best min-max strats of going to the gym and finding a partner, as if Pyramid Head, Bowser, and Shadow the Hedgehog aren’t always topping the “God I wish they were real” lists for women. Girls are just as horny as guys, they just don’t show it outside certain spaces due to societal constraints.

    Men, what I’m saying is: get into cosplay. Thank me later.

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      Women are not as horny as men.

      They’ve done studies. I think they worked out that men on average think about sex about 8 times as much as women on average.

      Frankly the whole comparison is fucking stupid. It’s not a fucking contest.

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        You’ve missed the point. Women are just people, like you.

        Stop putting them on a pedestal or as a prize to win by being some weird ideal or generic “what women want.” Women may not be “as horny” but they do get horny and they all have different preferences. So just do interesting shit that you enjoy and your enthusiasm for whatever it is will help more than you could imagine.

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        men on average think about sex about 8 times as much as women

        Spontaneous thoughts of sex /= the entire spectrum of sexual desire.

        They’ve done studies.

        I’m not even gonna get into the sociological aspects of this, it’s a meme community.

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    Henry Cavill.

    Look at women’s reaction to him, and tell us we’re wrong for wanting to include physical stature into our personal goals.

    So okay, maybe a Schwartzenegger physique is too much. IMO, it always was. But Cavill has a moderately achievable physique that brings out the fangirls in droves.

    And there are plenty of other swole actors who do the same. Hugh Jackman, for one. Sam Worthington. Vin Diesel. And I could drop hundreds of names, here.

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      The point isn’t “a lot of women dont react to hot men” but “you do not need to be very physically strong-looking to get a girlfriend.”

      I’ve seen a person I found very attractive before, I’m sure. That doesn’t mean I’m only going to date that person.

      That being said, sure, being physically attractive makes you more attractive. No argument here or from the meme.

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      Henry Cavill. Look at women’s reaction to him, and tell us we’re wrong for wanting to include physical stature into our personal goals.

      Most women I personally know actually aren’t that attracted to Henry Cavill. It’s the dudes that think he’s the perfect specimen.

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        If I talked about a woman the way I have heard women talk about Mr. Cavill, I would be chased out of public areas.

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          A lot of my female friends are, for a lack of a better term, “woke” (not derogatory) and they have grievances with stuff Cavill has said in the past in regards to women and feminism. I’m not sure on the details, but it was enough of a turn off for them apparently. I have no skin in the game.

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            And I would suspect there are as many women who clamour. This meme is just someone’s specific preference. There is NO universal attractive type.

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      I think you’re also missing the part where they have extremely handsome faces in addition to their bodies. Your totally regular looking face isn’t going to be all that hot on a ripped physique.

      Actually saw study recently where beyond a certain point. Every point you lose in BMI you also reduce your sexual partners. So yeah, being reasonably fit with a little bit of fat is generally the best build.

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        I think they are talking about dating though. People will fuck a rotting slob of flesh, so long as it has a bag over it’s head.

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      Right? A girl checking you out is nice but a “straight” bro noticing the work you’ve put in means so much more.

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      Also the realization that you just generally feel so much better when training regularly.

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    Going and getting swole will still get you women but not because of your big muscles in most cases. The dedication and follow through needed for that demonstrates value. Other hobbies are the same way. Of course some women like huge muscled men or cars or d&d or guitars or whatever but the ability to be both interested in and interesting about something is more attractive than the results.

    You hit the gym everyday and you’ll get way more compliments from men than women. Same if you have some sweet car. It’s the effort to attain that super nice back and thick heavy lats that women respond to more so than the muscles themselves in most cases.

    Doing something is more interesting than doing nothing. Plenty of guys without hobbies or interests will still find mates but it’s harder to get someone to want to know you and get to the point where they love your interiority without some kind of interest. Touch grass, join like minded people for activities, enjoy yourself and the rest will follow.

    Tldr.
    Slay orcs, cook food, go into the glimmer on a military mission then return potentially infecting Natalie Portman go to avenge a family member killed by the Lannisters and you too can be the middle guy (whoever that is)

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    Comments: Um actually, most of these are muscle hunks

    Me: Um actually, Carmy Berzatto is a world class chef and restaurateur, not just a “line cook”

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    When I was a teen some of the girls I knew had such big lady boners for the main cast of supernatural ad sherlock Holmes. I never understood why.

    Going by the Venn diagram, ive now come to the conclusion that theres something about homoerotic baiting between two grizzled depressed dad archetypes that really fires the neurons and gets the hormones going for some ladies.

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    Many women do their makeup and dress for themselves & other women.

    Why would it be different for men who are focused on their body’s asthetics?

    The real question here is: Markiplier? Really?

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      It’s different for men because we fool ourselves into believing that it’s for women when it is indeed for other men most of the time.

      And Markiplier is a good looking dude. Why wouldn’t he be a good example?

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        Mostly, because I’m shocked at a meme for overlapping with my niche content preferences. Markiplier is handsome, sure. He’s also an insane pick personality-wise, like as close to a cartoon as possible.

        Goofy af, gaslighting, goldfish brains, but good looking! This is what ladies crave, yes.

        Aspire