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    “We took the freedom of speech away,” President Donald Trump boasted in his opening remarks at his “antifa roundtable” Wednesday.

    Wow… Despite the headline that still took me by surprise.

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    Do like Disney and instead of using actual American flags, use close approximations. Any action taken against you for burning a flag with 54 stars can net you a pretty penny in a civil suit!

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    Nah, Kamala had a stance on Palestine therefore this is the okay alternative. /s

    Good thing that situation is completely resolved now /s

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        It was so bad that we had to make the Palestinians suffer more by letting a fascist win instead.

        GO AMERICA!!!

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          The media is mostly controlled by republicans and anti-left billionaire centrists, so yes msnbc wants you to think people who care about gaza are the only people responsible for the last election just like they want you to believe that trans people “going too far” are why gavin newsome will lose the general election in 2028 (despite a large portion of democrats being LGBTQ voters and him falling into many right wing pitfalls on the issue)

          I haven’t seen any math that holds up that gaza lead to Trump’s win on its own. What it likely did is create a lack of volunteers that led democrats to lose. You can’t scold people into knocking on doors, that’s a “lead by example” situation.

          Democrats stepped on a lot of fucking rakes by trying to triangulate immigration and homelessness as well as catering their messaging to (and enriching right wing media with ad revenue in the process) people who will never vote for them.

          Specifically Trump has also said Elon helped him rig the election. Elon musk and other social media owners hire people that understand psychology and will make AI clones of the most annoying people they can find and bury twitter in bots emulating those people just like they already find the people that upset conservatives the most (scientists have found conservatives overreact to disgust) and use that to ragebait them constantly. I’ve seen people calling themselves anarchists on this site who mimic media talking points about “online leftists”. Psychology works.

          Assume somebody that makes more in a day than you will make in 100 lifetimes is spending a small fraction of their money trying to make you blame the people next to you for your problems instead of themselves because billionairs are doing exactly that.

          If there are future elections any time soon, knocking on doors is going to be a lot more effective than screaming into an internet void full of chat bots that all disappear after elections. But if democrats spend all their money and goodwill buying ads on fox news again we’re doomed.

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      God, get over it, kamala lost because she couldn’t get people to actually vote. Just like Hillary. Same shit would have happened to Joe if he stayed in the race. Kamala lost because the party fucking sucks so hard that they can’t out message the fucking GOP.

      The election was a year ago, stop bitching about how nobody voted because Palestine. If you don’t like it, fucking do something about it.

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        She was a terrible pick for a multitude of reasons.

        I’m convinced party leadership is on the trump payroll. You can only fail so much before incompetence becomes indistinguishable from sabotage.

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      This is pretty much what occurs to me nearly every time I see the pedo-in-chief or one of his criminal syndicate doing something incredibly illegal and/or something to make American lives miserable.

      I wish I could find some more decent leftist content via podcast. Right now, I swear about most of the content coming out of TYT seems to be about Gaza.

      We have crazies running the place, and it seems to be a race to whether the Seven Mountains Mandate nutjobs or the insane dipshits from the Peter Thiel/Curtis Yarvin wing get to decide how our democracy is carved up. Normal Americans, while the majority, don’t seem to matter, at all. Gaza is a thing, but it’s not the only thing. I wish that people could understand this and bring it into sharp focus.

      Meidas seems to do a decent job as do a few others, but that’s via Youtube. Pod Save America is sometimes okay as is Thom Hartmann. I sometimes dip into John Fugelsang. Anyone else have any recommendations for decent podcast content that isn’t the all-Gaza show?

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      Trump listens to money and clout. He isn’t a Zionist.

      Biden is. Kamala would have been because she has no fucking spine.

      Can liberals stop dividing the people when the 2024 GE happened a YEAR ago and INSTEAD focus our efforts on the current fucking administration??

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    Free speech maximalism. So much free speech for the likes of The Annoying Orange; zero for any unpersons.

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    It was a stupid way for him to word that (no surprise, literally everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid), but I just want to point out that in the context of what he’s saying, what he intended to convey is that he got rid of the “freedom of speech” defense specifically for flag burning. Which… he didn’t. But he’s trying to by writing yet another executive order to instruct the DoJ to prosecute flag burners. Because, you know… a plague of flag burning is among the biggest problems facing our nation today.

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      I don’t recall allowing it. I only recall waking up every day and doing personal hygiene and getting dressed and eating breakfast and going to work and going to the gym and coming home and where the hell in my daily survival routine can I control whether or not the president of the United States allows me to have free speech?

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        Sounds like you had a nice comfortable day. That’s what I figured.

        Wouldn’t want to risk that comfort, right? Sounds like you’re willing to put up with quite a lot in order to remain comfortable.

        You’re allowing it every day you aren’t a threat to them.

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          Comfortable? Did you miss the part I mentioned I’m only capable of eking out bare minimum survival? Don’t you dare fucking blame your president on ME! I didn’t even vote for that disgusting schlub.

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            You’re right, you’re probably doing all you can. Go take a nap. Someone will be along to save you soon, I’m sure.

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        You individually? No

        Americans collectively? They elected the fucker. They allowed the system to degenerate to the point where a plurality could install him in a place with such extensive powers.

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    27 days ago

    This is free-speech absolutism, you guys!

    Also, even though we are actually trying to cancel all real comedy, we legalized comedy again, because prior to Taco, no one ever punched down!

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    28 days ago

    Don’t worry. We never had free speech. Here, watch: kill Trump and save us all. Ban in 3, 2, 1…

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      You do know that freedom of speech protects you from government sanctions for speech, right? Last I checked the Fediverse wasn’t the government. So the moderators and admins here are free to say: “we don’t want you here” and ban you and nobodies freedom of speech was hurt.

      Private organisations could always exclude you from their premise, same as you are free to exclude them from your premise. That’s called house rules.

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        Yeah and I can just go get another account like I do every week or so. So it doesn’t matter what the RuLeS are.

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          Ah, so you knowingly lied in the other comment and know what freedom of speech is. Good to know, tagging your current account with liar then.

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            But I’ll have another account after the ban 🙃 you just love rules more than you hate fascism.

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              Yeah and even with the new account you still won’t be able to comprehend what was written apparently. Words have meanings, you just seem incapable of accepting that. Two times you ignored what I wrote and went on some side tangent, so further discussing with you seems pointless. Have a nice day.

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              Your little dopamine squee everytime you get a reaction to your contrarian takes does not make you smart, it makes you an addict.

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          You won’t make another account. I labeled you a cuck almost a month ago, and it stands true.

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              Nah, assassinations tend to have poor political outcomes. It creates martyrs and draws more to follow the cause, while excusing more extreme retribution. Political violence is more effective when targeting the systems that support the oppression.

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                  Thompson was a supporter and part of the system, not a leader. Background people like him are a crap shoot. They can get lionized or demonized depending on who can get the narrative out better.

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        How long can we enjoy this era of federated spaces can get away with whatever because they’re too small for world governments to give a shit?

        I’m guessing until Ai bots can start correlating who is who based on ip and fingerprinting en-masse, but even then, it won’t be everybody, and we’d just move to a “use TOR/I2P” suggestion on every instance.

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        I usually get banned for calling for the death of the fascist Trump… but if the rules have changed, I’m fine with that.