They can, yes. It is worth noting that some recipients were convicted for various “crimes” in their home countries, such as the Chinese human rights activist who won it in 2010.
Plus, five words: Henry Fucking War Criminal Kissinger. 1973.
If people like Obama and Kissinger can win a Nobel Peace Prize, the prize is meaningless.
Obama got it before the drone bombings. It was more of a hope kinda thing but the hope didn’t turn out that great. And really just indirectly led us to vaguely gesture around
Obama not fighting for his Supreme Court appointment is a lot more than indirectly responsible for all of this. He abdicated his duty to execute the office and fucked us all in doing so.
Could he have done more than “encourage” RBG?
They can and do take prizes off laureates if they go bad later.
I lost what little faith I had in the Nobel Peace Prize when Obama won it — and I liked Barack Obama, I voted for him both times, but I didn’t think “up and coming politician”/“first Black president” really qualified him, and the general feeling around the time was “well we hope he does good for peace in the world.” So… you give him a prize that is probably better suited to someone else, hoping he does what you want in the future?
Regarding Trump being a felon, I’m more concerned that we don’t let felons vote, but we’ll let a felon be president. Make that make sense.
I remember he was president for like two weeks and then got the Nobel Peace Prize, I was a bit baffled
NY didn’t let him vote, but florida did.
Once Trump learns that Obama got one, he’s going to want one too. I thought for a moment that he was going to get it for getting involved between North and South Korea, trying to unify them and take credit for all of it.
Asking for a friend
I think the Nobel Peace prize has lost a lot of merit over the years. It still finds a way to go to those who’re deserving. But then we have people like Obama, Kissinger, Yasser Arafat and the EU in 2012 that wound up with that has put a dent in its legitimacy and legacy.
Disagree about the EU. Europe has had so many wars, and the EU managed to get the nations talking and trading. It has done lots for peace but its hard to measure wars that don’t happen.
It’s really hard to judge things that didn’t happen. See also vaccines.
They’re supposed to not qualify for high office either so probably these days. Asking for a friend?
Funnily enough, he DOES qualify for a jail cell. 34 times actually.
It’s almost a prerequisite now.
Yes
It’s not very different from John bonomassa being named best guitarist by rolling stone
Who?
Exactly.
Considering the reason why the prize exist at all was to help Nobel with his guilt over the invention of dynamite. Pretty much anyone can get the prize.
Ao you’re saying if they feel guilty about rape they can get the prize?
No. Not at all. I’m saying you can be a complete piece of shit and get one. It was nobel who felt the guilt. I didn’t say anything about those who get them. Didn’t mention rape at all. Don’t reason in advance of your data.
Can? Sure. Should? No.
It’s worthwhile remembering though that the people who get it aren’t all saints. Although rape and sexual assault are particularly distasteful items to have on the resume, if the person repented and then contributed meaningfully to lasting world peace, they shouldn’t automatically be stricken off the list.
So those admittedly distastefully liberal guidelines should exclude any current resident of the White House then.
I think they should ignore any person who is so publicly thirsty for it. It’s a prize you get, not one you ask for.
It’s unnerving having to read that the US ally Norway feels like they need to prepare for retaliatory tariff action if the independent committee for the award, that only ended up in Oslo by a quirk of Scandinavian history, doesn’t award the prize to 47. Sad.
The Nobel prize itself was created to downplay atrocities for fame, so yes, you can get it no matter what.
It’s fulfilling it’s goal.
Many past peace price winners were leaders in armed conflicts, and war is dirty business. So I assume the rules on crimes aren’t that strict.
It’s the reason a felon can take office in the government. Otherwise, it would be easy to “convict” someone you considered a threat.
