There’s far better bourbon out there, seniors.
Replace the macbook with a beaten up Thinkpad with 4th-5th gen Intel CPU, then it’s more realistic.
Running arch
Yeah, who the hell associates macs with higher competence? Before the 00s, I associated mac users with stumbling on the worse option but not realizing it, after the 00s, wanting to follow trends and/or overpay for hardware to seem rich. They’ve always been form over function, and simplicity over power, which are things that novice uses look for, not more experienced ones.
Or maybe more experienced ones when most of those experiences went badly and little was learned.
I think the point is not that it’s a MacBook, but that the senior is using a single laptop instead of a full multi-monitor setup.
Personally as a senior, I use 4 monitors. My eyes are too shit to stare at a tiny laptop screen all day, and I want slack/browser/terminal windows on their own screens. It’s much more comfortable as well.
A MacBook pro, if you’re into the apple ecosystem, is a solid option. You can run Linux and Windows in parallels and do your development on there, and for a lot of development workloads it’s sufficiently performant.
I like my system76 laptop, but I ran a MacBook pro for a couple years and it was solid, and this was over 10 years ago.
Advertising, and Apple buying up some professional software to discontinue their non-Apple versions (as well as disabling customization as “they know better than the users”) made it equal with “professionalism”.
Im pretty sure its mostly battery life.
You can pry my T440 from my cold dead hands or, at the least, give me a bit of notice so I can fish out my X220. Or my X80. Or my other X220. Or my T420… I might have a problem.
Pfft JD is trash no self respecting senior would by such short whiskey
Let’s see how many people agree with me that both poor communication and alcohol are not really signs of professional seniority
I think it want’s to communicate burnout.
To the unawares, it also communicates the “proper” image of a senior developer
I don’t think the image is trying to indicate professional seniority, it seems to me to try to represent seniority from an experience standpoint
Experiences differ, so I’d prefer it were labeled “failed senior developer” or at least “burned-out senior developer”
The main mistake was even replying after hours.
neither are macs
0/3 overall
23:22? Nah mate, my work phone turns off the moment I step through the gate. If someone chose to wait until after 16:00, they can wait until next morning to be told to fuck off.
If I resort to using a Mac I want someone to put me out of my misery.
Well m-series macs are decent spec and reliability wise, but repairability is a shitshow. I’d buy one if I could afford it (but I suspect the keyboard is terrible). Edit: Linux in a few years is possible.
That’s why the company buys it! I wouldn’t buy one personally either (I had a personal M1 Air but Pro is too much for me). The keyboard got improved a lot in 2019 or so, it was the 2016-2018 one that sucked ass.
Mac user here.
Rght? "I want something shiny to write my code on because it makes me look cool and costs a lot " is not ether sign of seniority.
I had two options at work.
Mac or Windows 11.
I was told the same at multiple jobs and just asked kindly that they spend the money on a linux compatible laptop. I had arguments to back my statement up too. It worked out.
YMMV
Good luck (if you want to go down this path and haven’t become a farmer yet).
oh I asked. this is a big company with 6-8k employees.
the answer was always, “no”.
looking for my plot, though I might just become a fur trapper instead of a farmer.
That explains it, yeah. Companies of that size often aren’t open for change unless it is top down.
Good luck with the fur trapping. Not sure if there’ll be less bugs though ;)
I can only imagine that you’ve never touched a mac much less used one for development.
I did. The UI sucks.
What UI? Get a tiling window manager for all your terminal windows and then have your IDE or editor in one full screen workspace and the application being tested in another, browser for reading documentation and Lemmy in the 3rd one. You don’t even need to see the MacOS UI when working.
Like the other person said, “what ui”? Sounds like you didn’t even try it, like opening up GNOME and saying “this sucks” and then immediately turning the computer off.
I learned to hate the Mac forced upon me for the time I used it, thank you very much. Fuck everything about those boots from the fruit store. Especially in a multi-architecture team, fuck macs.
I cba to find it but there was a tweet of someone saying that buying devs M1 Pro MBPs pays off in half a year from the shrink in compilation times. Some guy got snarky in the replies implying it can’t be a very big project (in terms of the users and whatever) that OP’s team was working on and it turned out to be the Reddit Android app.
I mean… the official Reddit app was so bad that they had to charge for API access in order to get real market share.
It was already significantly more popular than the good apps by then. The API access thing was to improve numbers further for the IPO. But the app is definitely big enough to have compilation times that can be bothersome. Doesn’t mean it’s a good app of course.
Sure, if you compare it to a thinkpad for 1k. M1 Macbook pros cost how much when they were released? 2.5k? 3k? Of you’re going to get reduced compilation times. But what exactly is it “paying of”? How is the calculation from time to money done?
“I can store so much stuff in my RAM, it’ll pay back in 6 months”. Such a random metric.
A well specced Thinkpad is more like 2-3k. Calculation from time to money is done assuming a 40 hour work week and the average salary of a software engineer in that team. The comparison was to an Intel core i9 MBP IIRC. And the comparison wasn’t two laptops, it was replacing the year or 2 old ones for the new model, not accounting for resale value on the old ones even.
If I interpret the mac as just any laptop then I kind of agree. The more experience I have gained the less I care about how many monitors I have or how fancy my keyboard is. I do require linux though.
No the keyboard is important. There are so many truly awful keyboards out there that have no travel on the keys.
I absolutely cannot stand the keyboard on the MacBook air. It’s so incredibly cheap and it appears to be made out of the same material that they package luxury chocolates in.
Keyboard is critical to me. I can work on a MacBook keyboard short term but something like a Glove80 or at least an Ergodox is critical for me in the long term.
Also OS X Unix is nix enough for me.
I can lightly mess around with opensource projects on windows …with msys2.
Shun the nonbeliever!
I’m an alcoholic how do I translate this skill into becoming a dev? Serious question.
Holy shit there really is an XKCD for everything.
get hired as an entry level Q&A, drink with the devs when you break their shit.
they’ll accept you eventually.
Maybe not as a dev, but those qualifications make you perfect for tech support. The support people where I work have their own beer fridge plus dedicated lockable containers for their liquor and no one would ever dare mess with that. And if you’re good at support, there’s a high chance you’ll get promoted to the Product Owner role pretty fast!
The best, brightest, most complicated thing I’ve done in IT became obsolete in 4 years.
Is that Matt Walsh?
System admin. This is still relevant
That’s not true. I prefer wine and Scottish whisky
Or at least not Jack.
There’s two products of Jack Daniels that I do appreciate:
- their BBQ sauce (I know there are better ones but none of them reached the UK yet, sadly, it’s a “good enough” substitute at a good price)
- Gentleman Jack - pretty much the only commercial bourbon I find drinkable, albeit not worth the price
Gentelman jack is a very smooth whiskey. If thats your taste, japanese whiskeys also tend towards smooth.
Suntory is a good brand. I prefer their $60-ish Hibiki whiskey when im looking for something extra smooth, but all of them are pretty easy drinking.
I found most Japanese whiskey to be too sweet for my taste. GJ has that balance of smoothness while keeping the sweetness at bay.
Plus I’m not that big of a fan of non-scotch whisky anyway.
By the way if you want something truly smooth, and not too sweet, the cheaper Mackinlay’s Shackleton remake, usually around £20 a bottle (should be around $25-30 in the US), is an amazing choice.
I used to prefer Jameson poured into my coffee when I worked somewhere with 6 hours of zoom meetings a day. I don’t care what the laptop is,really, as long as it’s not running windows and it has a buttload of ram. It’s usually provided by whoever I’m working for anyway.
The constant distraction and availability resonate with me.
The main thing is to put in systems where you don’t need as much effort to handle daily business. Usually you can engineer your way out of high touch, multi-step process glue.
In my youth working manual labour jobs I was full of vinegar and wouldn’t wait for the trucking dolly. Older workers taught me to slow down and I took that advice into software work.
That’s exactly how I’d consider experience. You think via systems(which include human interactions) instead of only technical aspects.
I’ve seen teams in really bad shape because the senior engineers fail to provide the right kind of leadership.
a senior engineer should has nothing to do with a fisher price toy, a glorified miniature lamborgini. real engineers should only use thinkpad.
I know right? What a poser!
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