I get there are still users but it feel empty at times compared “other” platforms.
Why isint lemmy more popular?
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Whaaaaaat? It has a far better signal to noise ratio than those ‘other’ platforms. As long as you’re into Star Trek memes and Linux.
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the linux content isn’t even that great on Lemmy
more just cheer leading; in a good way
I don’t know a single person that knows it exists other than a few that ive tried to get interested. I have told a few friends that use reddit but they just don’t get it.
I started lemmy a few months ago, stopped using reddit completely a few weeks ago and I don’t miss it other than all the dog posts…more people need to post pics of their doggos on here !!!
Everyone to whom I mention lemmy - even some of those to whom I have before - responds by asking about a musician of whom I’d never heard before I started having these conversations.
To be fair, telling people it was founded by Motorhead fans is a better selling point than that it was started by Marxist leninists.
Try monnett, people posto sooooo many dogs there
Reddit has been around for 20 years and Lemmy not near as long. Reddit didn’t really hit it big until Digg screwed the pooch driving away users around 2010. I don’t see Lemmy hitting Reddit number probably ever, but reddit is one of the highest trafficked sites on the web. Lemmy is steadily growing, but I think to many non users, federation and instances is a confusing prospect, so they never try. As it grows, I would imagine it will get easier or at least clearer for the layman and the velocity of growth will increase due to that and a larger user base as a whole.
Also the client situation is confusing to normies. Search for Lemmy on the spyware cancer store and you’ll see what I mean.
Pixelfed and Mastodon have already figured that out.
only way lemmy will grow, if reddit is continously banning people, or enshittfying some major thing, that prevents a certain community to not be viable. reddit noticed of thier large purges were getting rid of too many people at once, they now do alot of background banning instead.
federation and instances is a confusing prospect
Which is why we shouldn’t frontload people with that stuff. They don’t need to understand decentralization from the start, let them familiarize themselves with the fediverse first before throwing that at them. Just recommend a default instance, maybe change which every few posts if centralization is a concern. They’ll pick up the idea of instances as they interact with the fediverse.
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Because people still use Reddit (for some reason).
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Because it is fragmented and hard to understand how it works for average person.
- reddit has more larger and niche communties that arnt found anywhere else in such large numbers.
the only useful communties outside of reddit tend towards things like medical questions and drug usage forums. also spam/bot for income too on many SC.
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People stay on mainstream corporate platforms no matter how badly they enshittify because that’s where everyone else is. They don’t want to jump ship unless everyone else will jump ship with them, and so nobody makes the first move.
Lemmy isn’t more popular because Lemmy isn’t more popular. Lemmy wants to be an alternative to Reddit, but the best thing Reddit had going for it was all the niche communities for fandoms, hobbies, and other interests. That’s something that just can’t exist here, because if you take a niche thing and multiply it by a niche platform, I’ll bet that I might very well be the only person on this platform who is into some of my hyperfixations. So people who want to talk about topics that have no community here, leave and go back to bigger platforms.
I’m still here to try and push for a better future, but I honestly don’t know how we can grow this place to the kind of critical mass it would take to really get the ball rolling.
You need to game the system.
Create OC here then post that to other social media sites.
That directs people here. Without that Fediverse will take a lot longer to grow.
It’s a nightmare to even sign up.
Nothing else to it.
People will move en-masse to new platforms if the switch is easy. Nothing easy about using this platform.
Obv the people here are techy enough to surmount the initial hurdles, but don’t kid yourself, the average person doesn’t know a damned thing. Using tech and understanding tech are two vastly different skills. And you actually need to understand tech to even get started here.
“Nightmare”
Provide an email account, answer a logic-based question. Yes, “nightmare” indeed. /s
Because Reddit exists.
Reddit itself didn’t truly take off to massive scale until some other players were out of the way. It was the underdog for a long time.
It’s somewhat difficult to navigate at first and most users find the most popular platforms and don’t have a reason to move on, simple as that. Ease of access and, unfortunately, advertising would lead to Lemmy being more popular. But who would fund the advertising?
most users find the most popular platforms and don’t have a reason to move on
This is definitely a good point. Is even visible here, with not just Mbin but also Piefed still barely having users compared to Lemmy.
Guerilla marketing?
Wheatpaste posters or something.
Everything new starts in the underground.
Same reason Mastodon isn’t as popular as Twitter… a lot of people really don’t understand the concept of federation, or why it’s important in order to maintain a robust and healthy discussion. They’re fine with dictatorship as long as it aligns with their sensibilities.
Also, the concept of “one website, one app” is infinitely easier to comprehend than “many instances, many apps, still one protocol”.
Lack of marketing.
Network effect. Reddit has more users and more discussion, drawing in more people and discussion. I’m not worried because enshittification and bots will run it into the ground
not advertised, not run by a for profit company
It is more popular.
That probably doesn’t make sense, but when I joined a few years ago, I could read every post across the entire lemmy-verse and be annoyed waiting for new content about anything. At the time, the survival of lemmy at all was in serious doubt.
Now I have my handful of groups that are generally active enough that I get a consistent amount of new stuff coming in. It’s fairly low volume compared to other platforms, but it’s growing fairly steadily and becoming more useful all the time.
The creation of communities happens with time. We’re getting there.
It spiked in users to like 58k monthly active users after the Reddit API scandal, but that has dwindled down to 30-35k. Would be nice to see at least 100k.
most of them are still addicted to reddit thats why, when you have all under one house, its hard to beat, and thier communities there is still large and eclipses lemmy.
plus most niches have been on reddit for decade+, it will be hard to convince like 20k-100k people to move to lemmy.
It’s not necessarily a matter of moving. People who are into those niche subjects will gladly add more. I’m into guitars, and that’s the only thing I really miss about Reddit. If I was in all the Reddit guitar subs, and found out about Lemmy guitar forums (which practically don’t exist), I wouldn’t switch to Lemmy, I’d just start browsing Lemmy’s forums, too.
Start with Cats. Lemmy has a real lack of Cat material. Cats are like Artists in a run down neighborhood. Once the artists arrive, everybody knows the neighborhood will change over the next few years. Cats are like that in the Internet. Lemmy needs cats to attract more eyeballs.
This is a really good question, and I suppose the answer is the same as to why Mastodon is not more popular.
I think it is a combination of several factors:
- Not many people know about it. Really, reddit is one of the most well known websites on the internet. Very few people know lemmy/mastodon.
- UI/UX issues. The more friction there is, the smaller the probability of someone using something. And Lemmy has TONS of friction. And the lemmy devs are not welcome to suggestions. Seriously, every suggestion that is made is probably answered with “I am against this”. If the idea did not come from their heads, they are probably against it. This has been my experience with them, at least.
- Lack of content. On reddit, there is tons of content. On lemmy, not so much. And people are generally not very principled. They want to consume, and completely ignore the ethics/morality of whatever it is they are doing.
I think this is not necessarily bad though. Lemmy DOES need more content and more users. But I hope it never becomes the size of reddit. Because reddit fucking sucks. People are stupid as fuck there now. The amount of low effort and low information content on reddit is astonishing.
Hopefully, Lemmy gets the smart, principled, interesting people and reddit keeps the influencers and onlyfaners.
Lemmy currently feels a lot like reddit used to in the beginning, when posts came from real people who just wanted to share ideas about things they cared about. I’d rather keep it as is than see it grow into the bloated bot farm of garbage and advertising that reddit has become.
somewhat. early reddit was a lot more mainstream. it was mostly a link aggregator for news stories in its early days and subreddits were not really a thing until later. i started using it in 2007 and it was much different by 2010.
the dominant ideology was also libertarian and auti-authoritarian, not extreme leftism of various flavors that are pro authoritarian. there was very much a lack of controlling the narrative and language policing… that didn’t take hold until mid 2010s as the reddit ‘scandals’ caused the admins to start cracking down.
