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Nazi Punks Fuck Off.
ICE officials worried citizens may treat them the same way they treat people. Welcome to bizarro land.
Yes every ice/police vehicle is considered hostile.
Good fuck em
The country right now
it s incredible how this kind of discourse already provoque one death and you still are on it. Yeah really try to play cod with th us state your are totaly justified and it will only end in a good way. You dont have to comply to llaw enforcement you can even shoot on them and you will not be condamned for it.
Shoot ICE. On sight.
If they’re just shooting random moms in minivans then nobody is safe.
Urbanist W
Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police
I just signed up for a basic self defense class. I figure the chances of an honest to God civil war breaking out have now risen into whole numbers. Thanks, assholes.
ICE was the reason why I did not visit the US. Now it is ICE and the unbelievable violation of privacy at the border.
The collection of biometrics all over the world that went from being something you needed at least serious suspicion of to being extremely common and routine for literally everything is just shit.
Exactly this, I was supposed to be in the US for work. I had everything prepared and then this shit show started.
That’s why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that’s left.
Eh, can’t say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they’re the violent arm of the sovereign
That’s a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.
What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they’re regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which “might makes right” and “survival of the fittest,” conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.
That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said “might makes right” on a live TV interview.
Which is why I won’t feel any sympathy for him when someone finally gives him his comeuppance
Time to show them just how fit they really are.
And why thr Geneva conventions exist.
We live in a society
I’m not sure that’s true anymore.
Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than “civilization” was “society”? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.
We should call it the Good Initiative
So, ICE is scared that aggressive untrained people will use deadly force against them, and that afterwards the government will do nothing about it?
That’s pretty much how everybody else has felt about ICE for a long time.
(The Halfway Post is a satire website)
What’s the fucking point in doing satire these days?
We all cope in our own ways. This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda, so… at least there’s that?
This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda
This post isn’t propaganda, though, so it’s not that amazing of an example.
Yeah and if this openly and unabashedly satirical post was still being treated like legit reporting, imagine how people must react to actual propaganda.
Actual propaganda isn’t true, though, or at least it requires an element of misleading in it. If ICE officials aren’t actually concerned about people shooting them and claiming self-defense, then I’ll eat my hat, as the old saying goes.
It’s also not “openly and unabashedly satirical.” You only think that because you recognize the source as satirical. To everybody else, it reads as clickbait.
Clickbait + true statements does not equal an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda.
Can be true, can be as simple as „make you think about that (so you don’t think about this)“
Actual propaganda frequently is true, this is misleading in that it is not actually reporting news, just guessing something is true doesn’t make it true, I didn’t recognize the poster I went and looked it up trying to find a source and discovered it was posted by a very open satire site, and this seems like a really stupid thing for you to be trying to start a fight over.
This post has five words
I wasn’t criticising the satirist, more the world that is making satire impossible to differentiate from fact.
Nah totally, I read it as a similar sentiment to "What’s the point in doing anything". If that was off the mark I apologize. I just meant that we all cope in our own ways, even if some of them are somewhat windmill-tilting-y
Because there’s still plenty of wiggle room. You actually thought ICE officials were afraid of citizens?
In this case, perhaps to put the idea of shooting at ICE cars out into the universe without getting in trouble lol
Not in this case.
Give it a month, max, before somebody with either the cojones or the ovaries required to do this, does it.
… This … this is literally how the American Revolution started, at least from one sort of way of looking at it.
You have oppressive government forces killing and maiming enough randos long enough, eventually the randos start shooting back.
See also: Anywhere else the US has invaded and occupied in the last, I dunno, 75 years, more than that.
With that said, if you were to end in the same situation, would the idea to actually run over an ICE agent so that he doesn’t shoot you cross your mind?
I really fail to see how that’s relevant to the source being a satire news site.
What I mean is satire or not: they SHOULD be worried. Now people may genuinely assume that running over them is the higher survival rate option.
That pig was was recording while reaching for his gun, it looks like that video was meant as a trophy.
Your constitution means nothing it seems people in power wipe their arses with it and citizens barely defend it handing over more and more freedoms every year. Ice clearly isn’t about that they sold it to you as.
