• Sergio@piefed.socialEnglish
    21·
    2 months ago

    Funny you should ask that, I was just trawling around looking for memes to post on !gothindustrial@lemmy.world and came across this classic image:

    It’s from like 2007 but still got a lot of truth. See here for a breakdown of the various “stereotypes” of goth types by the same artist, many of which do not involve monochrome: https://www.deviantart.com/trellia/gallery/25271332/goth-stereo-types

    If you check out pics from last summer’s Wave Gotik Treffen, you’ll notice that yeah, black is the baseline but it’s not exclusive: https://piefed.social/post/883617

    As for your question “why?” idk but wikipedia says:

    The anchor that holds all elements of dark culture together can be viewed as the color black with all its associated symbolism. It is seen as an expression of seriousness, darkness and mysticism, but also of hopelessness and emptiness, melancholy, as well as its association with mourning and death.[2][6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_culture

    But a lot of tradgoths will say you don’t have to dress or act any certain way to be “goth”, you just gotta enjoy the music. idk tho, I’m more into industrial!

    • Pudutr0n@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      2 months ago

      This is a great answer. I appreciate you taking the time to explain clearly, link references and fish up the image. This is something I really knew nothing about and am legit amazed. Thank you so much!

      (Assuming you are/were a goth) May I ask what makes darkness really appealing to you? I mean I guess we all enjoy some darkness and I’ve had my dark times so I can understand a bit but umm… Could be wrong but I feel like darkness speaks to those who have a lot of anger or sadness somewhere. Does that make sense?

      I also have the preconceived notion that goth culture has to do with rebellion / reappropriation of ostracism / exile / Thanos aka desire for death / Demon worship? and similar drives. Does this sound right to you? How would you put it?

      Just trying to understand how the world looks like for a goth.

    • Pudutr0n@lemmy.worldOP
      31·
      2 months ago

      You can’t just go around in life cosplaying cyberpunk 2077 or mortal kombat outside some kind of nerd convention willy nilly. We live in society. There are rules.

      • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        2 months ago

        Yes, one of the rules is to never confuse Cyberpunk with Cybergoth. It’s mildly acceptable to conflate it with gravers (Goth Ravers), but not if you want to make friends.

        We live in society. There are rules.

        Nobody has more rules than hyper niche cliques. If your locks had foam, you were very clearly deeply wrong about the actual deep meaning of whatever we imagined ourselves to be about and you’re doing everything wrong.

        You might be hard pressed to find any cybergoths in the wild, though looking at current fashion, maybe I should dig up some stuff.

        • Pudutr0n@lemmy.worldOP
          4·
          2 months ago

          This is fascinating, confusing and somewhat concerning all at the same time. How can someone be a goth raver? Is bipolar disorder required? If so, are they taking in new members?

          Yeah I’ve also seen the gatekeeping and purity tests that come with these tribal arrangements in all of their variations. This is such common issue for me that at some point I had to make a gif about

          the role people sometimes assume.

          I don’t think I’ve seen any in the wild, at least based on what I saw come up in a few searches. They look like fascinating life forms though. I wonder if they’re nocturnal or just crepuscular and what their feeding habits are. Nature truly is a marvelous thing.

          Thanks for the fun reply. Just maybe stay away from glow sticks for a while if you don’t want to relapse.

          • Pudutr0n@lemmy.worldOP
            2·
            2 months ago

            I just watched the first video and this is nothing like what I could conceive a goth festival would be like.

  • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
    10·
    2 months ago

    Joke comments aside, just because we use black a lot doesn’t mean we don’t use other colors. A fashionable goth can style just about anything.

    Just uhh don’t look in my closet, behind the skeletons

  • xia@lemmy.caEnglish
    3·
    2 months ago

    It’s similar to the weeping angels, but they lose their color (rather than mobility) when observed.