• Abundance114@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    What about this is lawful protest? Go prevent a police officer from fueling his police vehicle and see how fast you go to jail for obstruction.

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      1 day ago

      And the mental gymnastics award goes too.

      So are you saying it’s ok for ICE to shoot people, gas babies and abduct children from schools, but the protestors are the bad guys as they wont let them refuel!?

      Go lick boot.

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            17 hours ago

            If ICE did something wrong it doesn’t legitimize the protestors to follow that up by also doing something wrong.

            It may legitimize it in your eyes, but not the eyes of the law.

            And cut out the name calling, there’s no way you can be seriously think im a boot licker while also trying to have a serious conversation with me… Unless you’re just ridiculous.

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              14 hours ago

              by also doing something wrong.

              Where “doing something wrong” is “protesting the actions of ICE.”

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                14 hours ago

                Where “doing something wrong” is “protesting the actions of ICE.”

                Don’t confuse protesting with obstructing federal law enforcement.

                I absolutely support anyone’s right to protest any aspect of our government.

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              17 hours ago

              If ICE did something wrong it doesn’t legitimize the protestors to follow that up by also doing something wrong.

              It may legitimize it in your eyes, but not the eyes of the law.

              Haha, if they did something wrong… Going for the world record in mental gymnastics I see.

              You cannot abuse a population, mame children and kill people then turn around and call protestors the bad guys because they blocked a fuel pump… ICE aren’t following the law, yet their victims have to otherwise they deserve it - fuck you.

              And cut out the name calling, there’s no way you can be seriously think im a boot licker while also trying to have a serious conversation with me… Unless you’re just ridiculous.

              If it walks, talks and acts like a boot licker… And this isn’t a serious conversation, I don’t take you seriously.

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        1 day ago

        Poor Adumbance114 got all confussed there. Maybe they need to read the Constitution again to be reminded what is and isn’t lawful.

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          18 hours ago

          Absolure brain rot from the left.

          Nothing about the constitution enables the public to obstruct the duties of a police officer.

          Infact The Supreme Court has already ruled on this.

          Cox v. Louisiana (1965), 379 U.S. 536

          Protestors blocked access to a courthouse and were arrested. The Supreme Court upheld the arrests.

          If you want to protest the police you can do that. But you cannot protest the police by stalking and then spontaneously inhibiting their abilities to perform their job.

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            16 hours ago

            ICE aren’t police. Didn’t I already tell you that?

            They’re fascist pricks on an ego trip who break the law every day. Fuck ICE. The fact that you got triggered like that tells me all I need to know about you.

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              16 hours ago

              ICE aren’t police

              This is kind of a symantical useless statement. They police immigration law, they are officers of immigration law, but for some reason convenient for you, you don’t want them to be able to be called police officers.

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                16 hours ago

                Lying ICE (aka LICE for short) are NOT bona fide cops.

                What is there about that you don’t seem to understand?

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                  What is there about that you don’t seem to understand?

                  The relevance to the point you’re trying to make.

                  The fact that FBI agents and ICE officers are not called “police officers” (in the traditional local/state sense) has virtually no relevance to their ability to enforce the law. The label itself is largely semantic and does not limit their legal power.

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                    It’s not what they’re called that makes the difference. It’s that they swear allegiance to the Constitution but are trampling on the whole Fourth Amendment:

                    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                    They also use administrative warrants, not judicial ones which have more power and proof has to be brought in front of a judge before it’s issued.

                    LICE is nothing but a gang of racist dumbfucks who think they’re gods.

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        18 hours ago

        Did I say ICE were police officers? No I did not.

        However police officers vs. Federal law enforcement officer - Not much difference IMO.

        Ice polices immigration law, and they’re officers of immigration law; but somehow they’re not police officers… some symantical BS.

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          ICE isn’t police though. They’re a fascist paramilitary.

          Fuck ICE and anyone who defends their fascist bullshit.

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          14 hours ago

          Ice polices immigration law,

          That’s the pretext for what they’re doing. Murdering people and kidnapping children to use as bait isn’t “policing” anything. It’s just being fascist shit. And you’re here to support them. Do you prefer the sole of the boot or the upper? I bet it’s the sole. More flavor. Particularly if the agent stepped in shit.