• HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
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      1 day ago

      Poor Adumbance114 got all confussed there. Maybe they need to read the Constitution again to be reminded what is and isn’t lawful.

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        Absolure brain rot from the left.

        Nothing about the constitution enables the public to obstruct the duties of a police officer.

        Infact The Supreme Court has already ruled on this.

        Cox v. Louisiana (1965), 379 U.S. 536

        Protestors blocked access to a courthouse and were arrested. The Supreme Court upheld the arrests.

        If you want to protest the police you can do that. But you cannot protest the police by stalking and then spontaneously inhibiting their abilities to perform their job.

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          ICE aren’t police. Didn’t I already tell you that?

          They’re fascist pricks on an ego trip who break the law every day. Fuck ICE. The fact that you got triggered like that tells me all I need to know about you.

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            ICE aren’t police

            This is kind of a symantical useless statement. They police immigration law, they are officers of immigration law, but for some reason convenient for you, you don’t want them to be able to be called police officers.

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              Lying ICE (aka LICE for short) are NOT bona fide cops.

              What is there about that you don’t seem to understand?

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                What is there about that you don’t seem to understand?

                The relevance to the point you’re trying to make.

                The fact that FBI agents and ICE officers are not called “police officers” (in the traditional local/state sense) has virtually no relevance to their ability to enforce the law. The label itself is largely semantic and does not limit their legal power.

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                  It’s not what they’re called that makes the difference. It’s that they swear allegiance to the Constitution but are trampling on the whole Fourth Amendment:

                  The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                  They also use administrative warrants, not judicial ones which have more power and proof has to be brought in front of a judge before it’s issued.

                  LICE is nothing but a gang of racist dumbfucks who think they’re gods.

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                    It’s not what they’re called that makes the difference

                    Then stop asserting they’re not police officers like it means something, when you just acknowledged that it doesn’t.

                    It’s that they swear allegiance to the Constitution but are trampling on the whole Fourth Amendment

                    Yeah I don’t think they are, and in the situation where it’s borderline it’s due to to aggressive mobs obstructing them from their duties. Situations where there is actual constitutional violations should absolutely be handled in the court, not by flash mobs obstructing then from proceeding.

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      18 hours ago

      Did I say ICE were police officers? No I did not.

      However police officers vs. Federal law enforcement officer - Not much difference IMO.

      Ice polices immigration law, and they’re officers of immigration law; but somehow they’re not police officers… some symantical BS.

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        ICE isn’t police though. They’re a fascist paramilitary.

        Fuck ICE and anyone who defends their fascist bullshit.

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        Ice polices immigration law,

        That’s the pretext for what they’re doing. Murdering people and kidnapping children to use as bait isn’t “policing” anything. It’s just being fascist shit. And you’re here to support them. Do you prefer the sole of the boot or the upper? I bet it’s the sole. More flavor. Particularly if the agent stepped in shit.