• starlinguk@lemmy.world
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    The UK is about to kick out its PM because of the Epstein files. It turns out a prominent politician (Peter Mandelsson) has been giving away state secrets. The PM appointed him ambassador in 2024 KNOWING he was involved with Epstein.

    Read the fucking news, Lemmy. I suggest france.tv and the Bylines network.

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      That’s not what the OP is asking. They’re wondering why foreign governments aren’t pushing for more files to be released, to aid in their own investigations.

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    Other countries are actually investigating them, and there have been recent consequences in other countries for the current releases.

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      And or are supplicants of the US. Beholden to the US for security, for their economy. The US undergirds all of their currencies, controls world trade, etc. The sanctions regime is secretive and capricious, and they are not afraid to abuse it. Not even before this administration, and obviously these new guys are unbound by any past restraints. Not just the president, the party, this is the new thing it doesn’t go back to normal with our new supreme leader, presuming the democrats fail to take it back, a safe presumption at this point seeing as the same people are in charge of the party.

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      So the Jews are at the top of this network and controlling the world in secret? I think I have heard this somewhere before…

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        They typed Israel, you read Jews. I think you’re the one with the problem there.

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        I said Israel. Israel is a country not a religion. This country that is committing genocide and being booed at the Olympics is bribing and blackmailing politicians globally and as a consequence of this country’s own actions people are starting to despise this country.

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          Israel has a very special connection to the Jewish Religion, which makes it different to most other county religion (if we exclude the islamistic ethno states). Israel committing genocide in Gaza is whataboutism here though.

          Statements like “this was Israel all along” and “mossad did this” yield many internet points these days because it feeds peoples world views. Without any explanation why this would indeed be true and any proof, it still feeds conspiracy theories.

          Conspiracy theories are more than often deeply connected to Antisemitism, and this is the case here as well. I know using the forbidden A-word will completely derail this discussion here by enraging the tankie triad and it’s saympathisants. But I don’t mind because I find it dangerous to leave context less comments like yours alone.

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            Israel will never be able to separate itself from this genocide. My personal belief is that a separation between church and state prevents these extremist ideologies from becoming dominant. I also would like to mention the worldwide protests against Israel that include Jewish anti-Zionists including in Israel.

            This is my view of Zionism.

            Zionism is a white supremisist ideology that is being used by the settler colonialist state of Israel to justify the mass slaughter of the “genetically” impure. Like other supremisist ideologies Zionism references pseudoscience to claim superiority over others to justify the mass slaughter of people who do not meet their genetic or purity requirements to justify expansion and their own imperial ambitions. Zionism is no more a religion than the settler colonialist ideology that justified the genocide of the Native Americans or the fantastical and pseudoscientific ideology of the Nazis.

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              Zionist is the product of separation of church and state in Europe. Nazi Germany is the same.

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            Yeah they have to play the victim to justify their fascism. Don’t insult our intelligence pretending we don’t know the truth.

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    The amount of people saying it’s because other world leaders and businessmen are implicit are idiots.

    Not because that can’t be the case. But because it has nothing to do with how this works.

    There is no legal basis anywhere for such a demand. Even if you can prove that one of the victims is from your country. That doesn’t give you the right to access their investigation. It doesn’t give you the right to conduct an investigation inside a forgein country.

    You can make a request. They might say yes, they might say no. But that’s all you can do. Demands are different from requests. Demands have an implicit “or else” attached. It’s not something you throw around lightly.

    one: because it makes you look weak, and two: you need to be able to back it up if they refuse. EU is not going to start another round of trade-war with the US over their child trafficking ring. It’s not our problem. It’s theirs.

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    You don’t publicly demand access to classified files of another sovereign nation state. There’s only one world leader I can think of who’d be dumb enough to do a thing like that.

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      Yeah. Most of the world may be seeing this as a set of crimes when this is really a massive trove of intelligence.

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    Assuming they don’t already have copies through intelligence sharing agreements and have not already demanded access in secret, how exactly would most countries pressure the US, and specifically this US goverment?

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      they actually are reporting on it much more, and plenty have opened up their own investigations into their people implicated by what’s been released so far

      it’s just that the US’s mainstream news is so captured by special/rich interests that nothing breaks through the american bubble unless the powers that be want it to.

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    Country borders exist to contain the proletariat and allow avenues of escape for the bourgeoisie.

    A government that makes demands of this regime paints a target on their backs.

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    To do what with it? Other world governments are more concerned by the fact they keep getting bombed, destabilised and economically coerced by America and friends… The fact that the entire Anglo political structure is composed of murderous, amoral pedos and those who don’t mind it is not a surprise to anyone besides the ones governed by them.

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      To do what with it?

      Purge their own administrations, presumably.

      But all these people have their own friends, same as Gates and Musk and Jamie Daimon.