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Police officers always seem to align with the interests of the capitalist (Epstein) class. What is it about that job that attracts so many people with contempt for the working class?
I would say he was prophetic. But a lot of us realized what he did during COVID. Had a minute to think and pay attention.
Good ol Socko.
Predators protect predators.
Stupidity.
Cops are almost entirely made up of people who were too stupid to get a white collar job.
As a blue collar guy, I think they’re too stupid to be blue collar workers.
Edit- I had to do a 5-year apprenticeship, pass a state certification test and do continual education to maintain the certification.
How long is the average American police academy and how challenging is it?
The answer is quite mundane. I’ve a few friends in a (non-US) police force. The answer is that the rich/powerful are annoying as hell to go against.
They either know the law, or pay someone to know it for them. They can make obviously illegal things legal on paper. They can also nitpick everything. E.g. spending £5K on lawyers to get out of a £100 fine, since they don’t want to get the points. Any procedural mistakes, or paperwork errors can kill a case, or at least drag it out for years.
They also have contacts that can apply pressure. When their wife knows your boss’s, boss’s boss’s wife, they can make your life and career VERY uncomfortable.
End result, most officers learn to pick their battles with the rich and powerful. They will make your life hard, and will get away without everything being perfect.
In practice this can easily turn into taking the easy road. Even when the rich aren’t even technically in the right.
The rich give the violent dullards and chest-thumpers the imprint of honorability.
The average cop imagines himself a Knight Protector of the Realm when he is, odds on, Barney Fife with a spouse who flinches.
All of the answers before this are wrong. It’s their vein attempt to show us that they’re better than us. And that’s it. They’re so uncomfortable with themselves they they have to take you out on you. They believe they are part of the club.
Is it Vein or is it an arterior motive?
That would explain the massive overlap in domestic violence.
Acab, obviously.
But do you seriously not understand why cops follow orders from politicians and not citizens?
We just ignored the part where we cared about who our politicians were.
The job description is literally to protect the powers that be and in exchange get your own authority to power-trip on too. It is fundamentally a reactionary job that should not exist, and neither should the system they protect.
They’re uneducated but handed a living wage job and they are usually white men with narcissistic and psychopathic traits. The culture of entitlement and superiority within these ranks rewards the most narcissistic and psychopathic among them in the power dynamic within the fostered culture. This system then reinforces the racialized hierarchy within the self serving capitalist power structure and solidifies the tiers of oppression.
a paycheck :/
The Epstein class is not just capitalist. Stop sewing bullshit.
It’s capitalists and people in power which generally serve the capitalist class.
It’s also sowing
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I’m gonna say “arrest is unwarranted. Just kick ‘em out or end their speaking time.”
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Nah, there are options between “nothing” and “arrest”. Even for Nazis.
I wouldn’t be sad about some Nazi-punching though.
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Kick them out?
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I didn’t see the video.
…but you’ll happily spend multiple posts arguing about it, even though a link to it was right there in the post.
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YouTube doesn’t work for you? Second link down.
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I’m waiting for videos of cops fighting against Nazis instead of protecting them.
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That YouTube video is wild. Approximately 20 seconds from being first notified that his time was up, officers had already come up to him. 20 seconds. He handed them his documents. He was done. There was no logical reason for the arrest.
The arrest was done to warn the other peasants
Sure there was, they wanted to show their power.
Link?
It’s in the original post.
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That must be that “freedom” that Vance and Rubio say Europe lacks.
ACAB
while I don’t disagree with your statement, I’m certain that it was not the cops who made this call.
So they were just… following orders?
They are not exempt from guilt, but the that is not the point. The point is that this is not just yet another example of random police brutality and abuse of their powers. This is oligarch dictated suppression of dissidents.
It is different and much more serious than just “cops being abusive assholes”.
yes, and they are to blame. but so are those who gave the orders.
So ACAB+
No, it is, they decide whether to make the arrest or not. They decided to violate the first amendment, and embraced a bad faith request by a cynical and corrupt local lawmaker bought out by the tech industry.
That is no cop out that they were “ordered” from a city council member, they take an oath to protect and defend the constitution, and other laws, and don’t get to cop out to following orders in violating the freedom of speech, and other laws and decency in such a transparent abuse of power in service of tech.
I never indicated that that cops did anything right here, did i?
You dismissed their agency in the matter, thus giving them a pass.
I agreed with the acab, but also asked for credit for those who ordered it
You didn’t ask for anything though, you made a statement. If your intent was to ask for something, then you should restate it as a question.
I see, you need everything spelled out.
You mean like someone hacked their brain stems and was controlling them remotely? Yeah, that is a problem…
while the cops are blame (I agreed with the ACAB statement) I also deserve the higher ups are to be blamed.
Who gives a shit? You don’t give a Nazi a pass because they were “just following orders”, do you?
Who gave a pass?
You did, by dismissing their agency in the matter. Again, who gives a fuck if they weren’t the ones who made the call? They enforced the draconian measures, they are just as to blame.
I specifically agreed to them being bastards, obviously in this context. they are just as to blame. sure thing… I even confirmed that.
This is exactly why there are non-profit bail funds to donate to in many communities. These funds frequently help cover these people that are the vanguard of democracy.
They arrest the opposition for nothing to keep others from speaking out.
One of our local public transit advocates did nothing more than present at city council meetings. They ordered the security team to follow him everywhere in the building, to the bathroom, and his car.
Even basic challenges to the people in your government is all too often met with straight up oppression tactics. He got them to stop by going to the press with it. Nothing else worked except more public pressure.
This data center they’re hysterically agitating to build is going to take part of someone’s yard, someone’s entire house and property, and it will be right by a neighborhood making it’s stupid noise. And a lot of people outside of the town will have to deal with $400 per month electric bills, and they just can’t afford it.
Meanwhile, we have two members of Mark Zuckerberg’s legal team sitting in court wearing facial recognition capable glasses.
It’s easier to target the jury that way
Excuseme, wath teh ufck ?
Land of the free.
Whoever told you that is your enemy
These times are going to make The Onion irrelevant.
Talk too long in a public forum? Believe it or not, straight to jail.
“Shut up, Poors.”
Years ago there was a sketch in France making parody of local news to denounce racism: Anchor: “A man shot at a group of Arabs arguing they were too loud. After investigations, the police concluded that indeed, the Arabs were too loud”.
This news brought that immediately in my mind.
The party of “small government” . I’m sure he’s on the maga cancel culture concentration camp list now…brought to you by palantir because f you
