Its actually hell how we allow this to happen how we allowed the formation of zionist state in the first place its disgusting
Truman supported them even right after his security thwarted a mail bomb aimed at him by Zionists.
Are we calling this whole situation in the middle east and Europa a world war yet?
It’s more of a Great War
Remember how innocent we were the FIRST time Trump bombed Iran and we thought he was starting world war 3? Such sweet summer children were we.
And now South Asia as well, with the sinking of an Iranian frigate off Sri Lanka.
I am. We don’t need permission to call it what it is.
Classic Israeli tactic. Big mate allowed to feel like the tough guy, whilst the little shits do something sneaky and nasty whilst the world looks elsewhere.
Meanwhile on German media: Iran greift 10 Länder an, jetzt auch Zypern?
WTF I am not paying the broadcasting fees for this bullshit
Right on
Right on
Man, I really hate being on the Axis side. I hope we lose.
I hope that we do an Itlay
name any war where anyone wins.
The usa did pretty fucking well after ww2
The British did ok after the second Boer War.
The empire of Japan did fairly well after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.
The empire of Japan also did great after WW1 come to think of it.
The states did enjoy the Spanish–American war result.
Really kinda requires a strange mind or a willfully ignorant one to not recognize that wars often have winners and that is a reason they keep happening.
Americans born in the 40s and 50s had such a gilded path set out before them by WW2, and now they think that young people can’t afford homes because of starbucks and avocado toast.
Ww2 turned the US into the world’s premier power. In 1945 half the world’s GDP was in the United States and the US Navy was larger than the rest of the wold’s navies combined.
Hmmm. This is the Evil side.
US is doing an evil playthrough.
No body is going to win this. Everyone loses.
Generally agree, but if China plays their hand well, they could do alright/ lead the following century.
China has geographical problems that hamstring it against American Empire.
Until/unless they build a blue water navy that can blockade America or an alliance system that can shut us out of the indo-pacific, they are fucked in a straight up conflict.
Its been pretty shitty under the US, I dont want to live under china’s leadership either
I’m not advocating it. They just seem removed enough from the hot conflicts at the moment to weather the coming moment. If the discussion about this being a plunder move targeting China’s oil supply plans out and/or they move on Taiwan, I guess that could change.
Not true! The uber rich win…
idk even that long term.
People who will win: defense contractors, evangelical christians with investments in Israel, oil companies that can pull the “make money” lever at whim, saudi princes and everyone who is going to shore up around the capitalist might of US/Israel’s war machine.
People who will lose: anyone who needs insulin, food or childcare.
We already lost. Trump got bullied/suckered by Israel into this mess without a clearly defined American win scenario. Israel has one and they are getting it. The US does not, because Trump is weak and catastrophically dumb, ignorant, narcissistic, and incompetent.
Some are saying that this is a brilliant tactic by Trump. They took Venezuela, where China gets much of their oil, and now we’ve blocked Hormuz, where China gets the rest of its oil. They think this will crush China.
But China still has about a 100 day reserve. When that runs out, they will do something to get leverage for more oil - like take Taiwan. They need the oil, we need the chips. We’ve always worried about them taking Taiwan, and now Trump is going to force their hand with his “brilliant” chess playing.
but he has AI!
or, A1.
Back when MAGA 2.0.was starting, and the Wrestling Bitch (I’m being nice) took over as Secty of Destruction of Education, and she did an interview where she kept saying that the standards at the Dept of Ed were going to be A-1, and eventually it was clear that she had read something about AI being used, but since she had never heard of AI, because she’s stupid, she thought it meant A-1, and proceeded to demonstrate just how stupid she really is.
We… we lost two THAAD radar arrays, already.
We… can’t intercept too many missiles without those.
They’re like $1.5 billion USD each, roughly adjusted for inflation.
And… I think there were only like, 12 of these things, total. Anywhere. As of a week ago.
We reportedly have been trying to take away the one we use in South Korea, to redeploy it.
This is … beyond completely tits up.
Trump is saying the US Navy will just escort any willing vessel through the Strait of Hormuz.
And… what, we’re gonna use all our fleet defensive systems, to … shoot down the missiles that Iran can build 10x faster than we can build interceptors?
Taiwan is now completely fucked, if anyone hasn’t figured that out yet, we will now almost certainly not have enough missiles to repel an invasion from the PLAN and PLAAF.
This is… extremely bad situation, if you are generally a fan of yourself and other people not dieing a violent death.
They’re not only squandering their position as a global leader and the good will of our allies, but the military might and defensive capabilities too.
They’re literally going to make the continental US vulnerable to attack by wasting so many resources in this pointless war of aggression.
They’re moving at least one from S Korea to replace one of the destroyed ones. Hopefully it gets blown up too.
That’s fucked. Kim Jong Un probably has a boner reading about this
Found a link:
They are of course downplaying the certainty of it, which I am… skeptical of, I think they did at the very least try or plan to, but, I also cannot yet find an actual confirmation that it is being redeployed.
How does Taiwan fit into all of this?
When the world police run out of resources, they’re unable to police the world anymore and others who have smartly withheld resources will move in on coveted targets.
its also giving china big looks at the US’s current weaknesses with their huge toys that cant account for millions of flying toy planes with grenades self guiding themselves into them. US was built on big power projection but it is expensive as shit and the rapist pissed off of their allies. China could do a lot of damage, whether that is enough to take taiwan 🤷♂️ but it would be expensive as hell and be a lot more things for new coral reefs to build from
Epstein was the ultimate life insurance policy for Israel. Most of the americal leaders are in their pocket because of the kompromat he collected for decades for the foreign agencies (Israeli and Russian it seems).
If Israel is around in 100 years I’ll eat my shorts. They’re speedrunning being turned into a crater
Israel’s nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.
Basically, if they get nuked… they nuke Moscow, European capitals, anyone and everyone they can reach.
So… yeah…
Its literally ‘kill everyone’.
How the heck does the world “negate” or oppose Israel with the Samson Option running around?
Good question!
… We may unfortunately be about to find out.
So, basically what Iran does now, but with nukes?
Well, the difference being that the Iranian strategy is to attack things that can attack them, or people they care about.
And obviously it is non nuclear.
If Iran does have any ‘nuclear’ capacity, it would be dirty bombs, not… actual, proper, thermonuclear bombs/warheads.
The Israel strategy is to intentionally take out friend, foe, in between, with full-on thermonuclear weapons, to simply maximize chaos and maximize the chance of basically secondary retaliatory nuclear strikes against as many other targets as possible.
Goad the world into destroying itself, get other people to do most of the work for them.
… See how that’s kind of a recurring pattern?
If you are unfamiliar with the story of Samson from the Old Testament / Torah:
Samson, a supernaturally strong warrior, is captured by the Philistines, his magic hair that gives him superhuman strength is shorn off, his eyes are put out.
But, in his despair, he repents his sins, and God gives him his supernatural strength back.
Samson, while being paraded and mocked in the Philistine royal court, finds the support beams to the whole building, and shakes them so hard that the entire building collapses, killing himself and everyone else in the Philistine royal court.
Fucking psychopaths. The embodiment of evil…
Yeah the whole area is a hot mess. Always has been though, and always will be, unless of course it’s the nuke o’clock some day.
Ahhh so thats why we bombed iran.
The end game
Fucking psychos. Even at their peak, the biblical Israel was never that expansive. What farcical claim do they even attempt to make to this?
Their farcical claim has been pretty visible for a while now: they need not only the land they consider sacred and theirs but also a security buffer around it. If pressed, they will explain how a security buffer is not just an arbitrary distance of land but possession of key surrounding geographic positions. And that requires them to go all the way to THIS map.
Their acquisition of the Golan Heights set the template for this. Israel used to enjoy saying that they never started any of the conflicts, but even then they would admit that they annexed the Golan proactively because of its strategic positioning and key water sources in the area.
Clearly they won’t be talking about how they never started any of the conflicts anymore. They think they have more to gain than lose by letting that claim go.
Okay, well in that case all their neighbors need a security buffer too, which includes the key geographic position of their entire country.
See how easy it is to make bullshit claims when you’re a fucking sociopathic narcissist who doesn’t understand or care that other people’s needs are just as valid as your own, and that you can’t just take things that aren’t yours just because you want it?
Children understand this, but apparently the knesset doesn’t. It would be pathetic if it wasn’t so close to getting the entire world blown up…
100% chance that if they did this, they’d find a reason to invade the squishy but obscenely rich Gulf to the east as well.
Hard to imagine only half of the Arabian Peninsula or just a minor sliver of the Levant would be enough. “We’re here, why isn’t it ours” seems like the Israeli motto.
Ah yes just casually taking the bulk of the fucking Nile…
Might as well clean up the rest of Egypt as well at that point.
They’re salty about…
…being let go by the pharaoh? After writing silly stories claiming credit for natural disasters ruining Egypt? Such salty crybabies.
The amount of cultural squashing that would need to happen to make this possible is just ridiculous lol.
You can just say genocide
Nothing like a long, cool ethnically cleansing glass of cultural squash!
There aren’t enough Jews in the world to genocide that many Arabs+Turks though. Israel would just become the Jewish-Ottoman-Empire-lite
All that’s needed is military supremacy.
Hope for lots of dead Israeli soldiers!
Lebanon can’t catch a break.
Someone invade “israel”, so they get what they do to others.
Three countries (and more really) tried to do exactly that, and they have still not recovered
Their militaries are woefully inadequate, they can’t compete with US/Israeli doctrine directly
There are many reasons why, “top heavy” is simplest explanation; rank and file are afraid of their superiors (rightly so), so they withhold and misrepresent unfortunate news.
This makes modern military operations that depend on adaptability, communication, and coordination very difficult.
It’s been tried multiple times and the invaders always lose the war and territory.
Just emp & nuke them. Wall in any survivors for several decades
Nuke, get nuked. Think it through
calling for genocide of israelis
I am sure this is yet again AnTi-ZiOniSm right?
Israel’s nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.
They get nuked?
The nuke every single capital of every country they can reach, friend foe or in between, Moscow, Paris, Berlin, etc.
“If we’re going down, so is everyone else.”
So how much territory could they actually effectively hold and control?
Most people already fled. So it’s pretty sparsely populated right now
Watch the Lebanese army and goverment again do nothing while their citizens are massacred other than scold their opposition to stop resisting.
Oh yeah, invade this christian nation once again
Jesus lives there
I heard he was deported to Mexico
Impossible! Everyone knows Jesus is a white man with blond hair and beard and shining white teeth who lives in a cloud above Arkansas or Kansas, he wants us to bomb the shit out of brown people, our pastors say so.
Actually he’s a Korean bodybuilder now, try to keep up
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Samson Option.
It would have been wiser for Hezbollah to sit this one out.
Oh, didn’t know we had an armchair general here that has access to confidential material and is an expert on the topic at hand.
While Israel still occupied parts of southern Lebanon and bombs whenever they feel like?
It does no good to fight if you have no realistic way to win. They didn’t have the resources to challenge Israel before the war with Iran started and now they’re in an even worse position. They have two roles - as an irregular branch of Iran’s military and as a power within Lebanon, and they’ve chosen to prioritize the former and fight a losing battle at the expense of the latter (and at the expense of Lebanese people with no particular sympathy for Iran who don’t want to be involved in this).
