• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    742·
    2 months ago

    Considering all the crazy shit we’ve found out…

    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the change from clear good and evil in 80s/90s kids media to modern “we’re all just buddies at the end” wasn’t some kind of psyop to normalize the next generations to tolerate and handwave powerful people doing horrible shit.

    Like, there was zero blurry lines back then.

    If an oligarch was destroying the environment and harming people in the pursuit of power, John Leguizamo would show up and go Luigi all over some asses.

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        A Bug’s LIfe even had Kevin Spacey! With possibly the best line in any animated movie ever: “first rule of leadership, princess: everything is your fault.”

    • Billegh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      You’re right, but some of that is actually “in-universe” for Mario games. For example, Mario 3 is a stage play. That’s why the set pieces in the levels look the way they do, and why you can get behind the set using the white blocks.

    • T156@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the change from clear good and evil in 80s/90s kids media to modern “we’re all just buddies at the end” wasn’t some kind of psyop to normalize the next generations to tolerate and handwave powerful people doing horrible shit.

      I don’t think it was quite an intentional one, as much as it is that with media having a wider spread, the companies behind them want them to be less controversial, and more palatable to a wider audience. It’s a lot easier to do that if everyone was getting along at the end, since it’s a safe option that doesn’t risk any controversy over the audience thinking the treatment was too extreme, or having to risk offending the ratings board, or any of that.

    • Kowowow@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      There was that old raccoons show with the aardvark villian trying to level the forest where the bad guy isn’t completely hated so maybe an early example

  • 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish
    44·
    2 months ago

    I always said the Mario movie I got as an adult was the one I wanted as a kid, and the one I got as a kid was the one I wanted as an adult

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
    431·
    2 months ago

    The second Mario Movie lost me when it played Thunderstruck while Donkey Kong and Mario were fighting.

    I loves me some Akka Dakka, but there’s such a deep musical well to draw from with all the Mario games that it made it feel even more like an unscrupulous cash grab.

    • dkppunk@piefed.socialEnglish
      271·
      2 months ago

      I agree with that. The OG is a great scifi cyberpunk B movie that gets weird, but it is not a good Mario Bros movie.

      I think it’s better that way

  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    2 months ago

    To be fair the majority of modern movies are just cameos and references. So while it might have sucked (don’t know haven’t seen it and don’t intend to) it’s probably on par with the modern craptacular that is cinema.

    That said I have always loved the OG Mario movie because its just Fun. Outside of that one movie I never cared for anything related to Nintendo, thats how great I think that one stupid movie is.

      • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        It sure seems that way but I would argue that A24 films is doing a pretty good job of making original entertaining media.

      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.socialEnglish
        41·
        2 months ago

        More that capitalism doesn’t have a single original thought unless it’s a new way to enshittify something.

        Sure, plenty of new things that are great are being made, but the good stuff is nigh always without marketability or projected income in mind.

    • TachyonTele@piefed.socialEnglish
      111·
      2 months ago

      It’s a cute fun little animated mario movie. There’s nothing wrong with it, and there are funny parts in it. It’s ok to enjoy.

      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.socialEnglish
        15·
        2 months ago

        How silly. It has many flaws, but that still does not make it impossible to enjoy. It is not an either-or situation.

        If things had to be flawless to be enjoyed, we’d all be screwed for having friends.

  • fritobugger2017@lemmy.worldEnglish
    131·
    2 months ago

    The OG was fantastic! Bob Hoskins, John Leguizamo, and Dennis Hopper! The Goombas! The elevator scene!

  • Speiser0@feddit.orgEnglish
    11·
    2 months ago

    The old one had references as well. And it was nice that it was different. It made it fun to think about what all the things were meant to represent. And also, it was a bit like the games were just an abstraction of reality, with things made easy to understand and kid-friendly.

  • CCMan1701A@startrek.websiteEnglish
    9·
    2 months ago

    The new one works great for a wider audience. The OG is pretty funny and I definitely enjoy a lot of the dialogue.

  • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    6·
    2 months ago

    Well, one was based off the video game, one loosely referenced.

    Niether was a great movie, but kid me enjoyed the John Legluigi performance alot. Guess it depends on what ya like.

    • LurkingLuddite@piefed.socialEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      I loved is as a kid and still thoroughly appreciate it as an adult. Not sure the new one will stand the test of time. Though maybe one day when people are simply amazed that computers were ubiquitous and powerful enough to do such things, it will gain its own unique novelty…