“Well, first of all, they’re completely wrong,” Huang said in response to a question from Tom’s Hardware editor-in-chief Paul Alcorn about the criticism.
“The reason for that is because, as I have explained very carefully, DLSS 5 fuses controllability of the of geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI,” Huang continued.
Just a elongated way to say AI slop.
holy shit
“completely wrong” and proceeds to say it’s just a “fusion”.
It IS an AI slop filter, and you can take it and shove it up your ass alongside all of your stupid jackets.
he needs the money so he can buy more JACKETS.
If he shoves them all up his rectum and pull them out they’ll be all tied together cause he’s a clown.
I never would trust a 70 year old tech bro wearing a leather jacket.
Wasn’t it always an Ai driven filter? What is different about 5 that makes it detestable in comparison?
It completely changes the graphics into ‘ai slop’. If you look at their examples, it makes the game looks like slop videos.
What did dlss 4 and 3 do?
This one uses generative AI to “add details” instead of just adding pixels for more resolution. It can decide what a character “should” look like pushing a more homogeneous design to anyone using this since it will be built in training models of who knows what origin.
Looking forward to the day I boot up a new game and all the characters look like this because I don’t have DLSS 9 enabled
On the bright side there are more games than anybody can play in a lifetime that already exist. Sucks ass for my favourite hobby and lifelong companion from before my memory begins, but hey.
And, indies are still going strong. AAA died ten years ago, but we still get classics like Outer Wilds
Yeah, it’s actually been kind of a relief to have fewer new games to look forward to every year. I have a backlog of something like 700 unplayed games already in my library. I know I’m not going to play them all as much as they deserve before I die, but being able to make a much bigger dent in them is nice.
I’ve heard a number of creators try talking about how this is a good thing actually and it is just misunderstood… And I’ve got to say: after it’s come out that nvidia has threatened creators in the past… I really think it starts getting obvious who’s still kissing the ring. This is some emperors new clothes shit.
If nvidia can’t just make a better card anymore cool. No worries. Want to get into bed with the industrial military complex? Great. Message recieved. Want to overwrite an artists design with filters? Stay the fuck in your lane. You design chips that draw what they are told. If you can’t do that right anymore then get out of our industry and make room for someone who can.
Todd Howard is slop-pilled. RIP elder scrolls and fallout.
If Starfield didn’t murder everyone’s hope for their future titles I don’t know what will…
You think the Fallout 4 remaster would have done it as well.
I’m thinking we get AI-slopped remastered New Vegas and/or Fallout 3 next.
Right? Todd couldn‘t make a decent game anymore, let alone a decent looking game if his life depended on it. It‘s no surprise he embraces slop. He‘s exactly the type of guy to believe the hype.
That ship sailed with the 97th release of Skyrim.
I’m increasingly happy my hardware is a generation behind and incompatible with this shit.
Same, I have a 3090 that’s a secondary card in my system used only for video rendering because of how well it processes with NVENC. All my gaming GPUs are AMD now.
This needs TWO 5090 to work, so even current generation is not enough.
Only one? I got a newish computer, but I use my old ibm Thinkpad with an i5 and igpu, plus my steam deck, way more than that thing for gaming. The Thinkpad is mainly for nostalgia and a forever, but oddly non nuclear, war in civ V.
To be fair who has two 5090s laying around to use this crap? This isn‘t so much a „generation behind“ thing and more of a „overpriced luxury toy for the top .01%“. There is no market for this. It‘s all smoke and mirrors.
“The consumers don’t know what they want. I, the CEO, know what the consumers want. And the consumers want to give me money!”
None of this is done for the average consumer/gamer. We’re not the consumers he’s addressing.
DLSS is a consumer product.
“Do you guys not have two GPUs?”
Jensen Huang has all the GPUs, he can probably play games where each character has its own dedicated GPU and every atom and molecule of the environment is rendered in real time with a hyper-realistic physics engine, with built-in AI that plays for you so that even your idle pastimes are automated giving you more time to WORK AND PRODUCE VALUE FOR THE OWNER-CASTE.
“This game only needs two GPUs to run, what’s the problem?”
The more you buy, the more you save!
Never bought anything from NVIDIA after the 1080ti and I feel real good about that.
Never bought anything from them after the 500 series lol. The last one that didn’t give me any problems was a 1060 when I set it up for a friend, everything after that always had some nasty gremlins
I still occasionally use an old sli’d dual 260 gtx setup I inherited. It’s hooked up to my “theatre room” (not rich, just have a multi purpose room with a projector and couch.).
That’s fire, sli or crossfire anything is so nice to look at
It’s one thing to defend AI slop; but my god, why does his answer sound like AI slop?
CEOs have all sounded the same for years now. Add in LLM talking points regularly and they all sound like robots with a broken speech unit
hes the source of all the hype.
These people are likely conversing with AI daily… If you talk to AI a lot… It’ll rub off on you. At least that’s my guess from a neuroscience perspective. It’s like the hive mind effect, basically.
maybe he is an AI clone,
Strong principal Skinners energy. “Does nobody want my AI slop filter? No, it’s the gamers who are wrong.”
“Well, first of all, they’re completely wrong,”
Proceeds to explain exactly what everyone hates about it.
I’m tired boss
Still on a 1660ti and probably will be for the foreseeable future lol.
RX590 reporting in for the ‘never able to upgrade’ squad…
Remember, he’s never talking to us, he’s talking to major stockholders.
Even some of those can read the room and reach the conclusion that “if people won’t buy it, I won’t make profits”
Don’t you guys have phones?
Same exact vibes.
But we thought everyone was okay with repackaged interpolation! Why not repackaged Instagram filters!?
I think most people are ok with frame gen because it doesn’t touch the actual content. It just moves things around a bit with motion vectors which actually was kind of a thing even before AI although not very good. It didn’t repaint the game into some different art style.
Also there were real frames in there.
This is going to 100% replace the game graphics.
I think most people are ok with frame gen because it doesn’t touch the actual content. It just moves things around a bit with motion vectors which actually was kind of a thing even before AI although not very good. It didn’t repaint the game into some different art style.
Naw most people are not ok with fake frames, and like raytracing is getting less and less likely to be left on. Most people however hate fake frames not due to the frames themselves but the motion blur effect that seems to be needed to make things look ok on top of the frame gen (no one likes motion blur).
You are right that this is going to replace game graphics to some degree since its another shortcut game studios can use to cut costs (and the industry is kinda struggling at the moment). Why spend effort, time and money making a model look good when you can use a tool to gloss over the work and while it does not look “good” per say it will look better then it should.
Yep, I’m more suggesting that this was the logical path they would have continued down.
I personally don’t like the generation because it’s functionally noise and can effect the feel / responsiveness of the game. Upscaling seems pretty reasonable - but like many I just can’t abide by the notion that we are counting a generated frame as a frame for benchmark sake.
I’m not against framegen existing. It’s a preference. Same as that feature on TVs. To each their own.
Back to the new dlss though: yeah it was inevitable they go here… and I’m personally thrilled this was the line everyone more or less took issue with.
