for a sale

  • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    46
    ·
    1 month ago

    Pot is rarely laced.

    Harder drugs typically have some form of dilution because it is worth it to stretch supply.

    The only recent lacing I can think of is fentanyl, which was generally used in pre-existing opioids.

    • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      Pot is rarely laced.

      edit: Be like selling red bull at jet fuel prices

      doesn’t make fiscal sense.

    • disregardable@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      1 month ago

      fentanyl is now being cut with xylazine/tranq, a horse tranquilizer. it makes people OD like fentanyl but narcan does nothing.

      • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 month ago

        There was a trend a few years back to mix heroin and cocaine. We’d get overdose victims and apply narcan. Instead of coming around peacefully they’d go from a nod to cocaine psychosis.

        My friends who worked for EMS had a lot of stories about that.

      • Akasazh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 month ago

        Does that make it significantly cheaper, though? I thought fent was que cheap of itself.

        If not, why would they cut it so more of their customer base would die?

        • disregardable@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          it is cheaper. allegedly it also increases the effect time of the drug. fentanyl is very powerful but also very short-lasting by itself. in a hospital setting, it would always be used in a very small dose combined with other sedatives.

    • andrewta@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      1 month ago

      Fentanyl is frequently being mixed with a potent animal tranquilizer called

      xylazine (known on the street as “tranq” or “tranq dope”), creating a dangerous and often fatal combination. This mixture has been declared an "emerging threat

      So yeah it’s out there

        • prettybunnys@piefed.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 month ago

          Are you being deliberately contrarian or do you me a to imply the opioid AND fentanyl epidemic are somehow made up?

          • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            1 month ago

            Just because heroin and fentanyl are prevalent on the streets doesn’t mean that every claim that sounds like it was sourced from a 1990s chain letter is true. That’s an absurd assertion.

              • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 month ago

                Two government sources, which as we all know always report truthfully and without bias about street drugs. The same government that made weed illegal because it “lead to race mixing,” “jazz musicians to create Satanic music,” and caused people to go violently insane.

                • andrewta@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  I also watched a report from Mariana Van Zeller about the drug. She got in contact with people that make the drug and she got a chance to interview police who have to deal with the mess.

                  Can’t find a link to her report.

            • prettybunnys@piefed.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 month ago

              My dude heroin is being cut with fentanyl because it’s significantly more potent and so you can step on it more ( add other shit to make it stretch ) to sell.

              The opioid crisis was bad enough before fent hit the streets in it. This is a known thing, totally unrelated to the stupid “they put razor blades in my marijuanas”

                • prettybunnys@piefed.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 month ago

                  Tranq is short for tranquilizer.

                  There are lots of names for this.

                  I’ve heard tranq dope before, yeah.

                  Hell instead of being the way you are just google or ddg “tranq”

                  It would have taken you mere seconds.

    • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 month ago

      I knew a guy who’s business model was to pick out potheads he thought would have money and interest and sell them a bag dusted with something else. Pot wouldn’t hit the same after it and when they come back complaining he’d offer them the coke or meth he was selling instead.

      One and only time I ever narked.

  • Mohamed@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    1 month ago

    I doubt it’s intentional. Dealers and other people in the middle of the chain cut drugs with things that lets them increase their supply. One could add active ingredients:

    1. Fentanyl is similar to heroin but much cheaper. Adding fentanyl can make a supply of heroin appear to be better quality.
    2. 25-NBOME is occasionally sold as LSD. It has somewhat similar effects.
    3. Benzocaines and other -caines could be added to cocaine. These -caines, including cocaine, all have a local numbing effect. Adding benzocaine can make the batch of cocaine feel like it’s got more cocaine than it actually does.
    4. Meth and amphetamines are often added to MDMA, since amphetamines give a similar energy focus boost like MDMA does.

    Oftentimes, the adulterant is inactive, and is added to the drug to make it bulkier.

    None of those are meant by the drug dealer to harm the drug consumer. The main reason why drugs do kill so many people, especially opioids, is that they are of unknown potency. For example, if one always takes the se amount of heroin when they get high, they might OD if, for example, a specific batch had more fentanyl than usual. Fentanyl is especially especially bad because it is very very potent, making it really easy to OD on.

  • yesman@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    I read somewhere that there was an app developed by some organisation in a big city to track ODs and help addicts avoid known areas where drugs are adulterated. They had to shut it down when addicts would actually seek out the OD causing drugs using the app like yelp from the upsidedown.

    Econ101 does not apply to addiction.

    • baines@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      sure it does

      the aberration is self correcting

      short term fluctuations are expected, just not predicable

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    Controlling people through fear.

    Just like nobody’s putting free drugs in Halloween candy, or passing them out at schools, or any of the other stories that are really just horrible business strategies.

    Oh. Here’s another fun fact, you can NOT get high, sick or killed by just touching fentanyl.

    • thesohoriots@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      just touching fentanyl

      But you can watch a cop fake a seizure from being within 500 yards of it and lol at their dumb asses

    • Starya67@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      You can by accidentally touching it, not washing your hands, and then ingesting it. It only takes 2 milligrams.

  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    1 month ago

    Not sure what retails stores you go to, but most basically say fuck you multiple times per visit. The easy one is the self checkout, or if they don’t have that, the one checkers with the massive line while the manager looks on from not too far away. Then you got the grocery stores constantly moving things arpund even though everyone hates that. And the fake sales price that is really just the price… I could go on.

  • CodexArcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    1 month ago

    As others have said, marijuana is almost never adulterated. At best, you could mix some CBD or non psychoactive hemp to stretch it, but it’d be less potent and weed buyers today often buy for potency. (Not me man, I’m old, gimme that weak dad grass any day!) And of course, everyone has a story about the kid that bought a pound of oregano and thought it was ditch-grass.

    For other harder drugs, you do sometimes get adulteration. Fentanyl, being a very powerful opiate, is sometimes mixed in small amounts into other “white powder” drugs, like heroin or cocaine, sometimes along with cheap non-reactive filler like talc. This is to stretch supply and make more money for the dealer. Ideally, this wouldn’t kill their users but:

    1. Different drugs act differently, so while it might be “safe” to do a larger heroin dose for a fun occasion, if you dont realize it’s been cut with fentanyl then you can easily overdose by accident. And people already overdose on heroin, the line between a wild time and dead can be rather thin.
    2. Drug Dealers aren’t graduate level chemists, often they haven’t graduated anything, and dont realize that some powder they’ve used as a filler is toxic or becomes toxic in combination with other things or when heated, etc.
    • Triumph@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 month ago

      Also, if the street level dealer is cutting with fent after their supplier already cut with fent and whoever they got it from also cut with fent, you have no idea what you’re getting.

    • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 month ago
      1. sometimes they just add too much by mistake. They don’t want to kill their customers but they don’t know enough to safely spike their product every time, partially because:

      2. different people react to the same drugs dfferently too. A fentanyl dose that won’t harm Jack at all can be deadly for Jill, even if all the other variables like what it’s mixed with and in whah ratio are the same.

    • prettybunnys@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      The easiest way to “cut” weed has always been “get it moist”

      Throw some orange peels in the bag, the moisture will move from orange peel to nug, the nugs will smell extra potent and they will weigh more.

      Cutting is so you can extend it, or sell less product for more.

  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 month ago

    Almost every real world case of weed being laced was from an end user doing it on purpose or it was a simple contamination error.

    • Nasan@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 month ago

      This, had a coworker who bought garbage quality weed from a dealer who reused bags. There were trace amounts of similar quality coke at the bottom of the bag.