• Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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    15 hours ago

    I disagree with the initial claim.

    I can go sit just about anywhere without concern of being cited for loitering.

    Not sure where you get this idea from.

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        14 hours ago

        TBF they might just not live in America. Never really seen “loitering” being a thing outside of that mistake of a country, or at least I haven’t seen it enforced and I’ve been everywhere in Western Europe (where one would assume these things are more enforced since they’re culturally closer, idk).

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          Yes its an american thing. I can sit where I want in my country, unless its blocking some entrance or something.

          Its because in America, you are not a human being. Someone should have informed you.

          Another thing ive seen in American movies - people are not allowed to park and sleep in their cars it seems. There is always some officer walking up and knocking on their window and telling them they cant be there. Seems to be another sign of America.

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            Yep, a lot of it is hostility to unhoused people, based on the myth that “they are all ‘psychotic drunk drug addicts’ that are horrible people”, hence why people believe they are (and deserve to be) unhoused. It’s why hostile architecture is so common and ingrained in the US.

            Also, Racism of course.

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              It makes sense from the American culture point of view, that someone who makes money is a winner and someone who doesnt is a loser. Its a view of people that is pretty evil.

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                100%

                Fuck prosperity gospel, it and racism are so deeply ingrained in this country, and cause so many of our societal issues

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        14 hours ago

        No, I’m rural in liberal territory.

        I cannot think of a single place within 20 miles in any direction that is not indoors nor private property that any human being cannot be more or less indefinitely.

        You can’t camp within like 250 ft vertical of the treeline. That’s off limits for protecting the environment reasons.

        If you’re pulled over in a car I the side of the road, a state trooper may come to see if you’re ok. Our states troopers got a much better rep than our cops, and our cops don’t do too bad comparatively.

        Acab, but know your enemy. It ain’t the outdoors.

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          You’re in New England aren’t you? BTW if this ends up being true, I actually didn’t stalk your profile to see. I am originally from MA and one of my favorite things about NE, and specifically MA, is that even the most rural spaces have pride flags and very progressive. It’s actually the suburban sprawl areas that are more purple, but not enough to turn any part of the stage red.

          I fucking love the Berkshires and some day I am moving out there, that’s a promise I will keep to myself no matter how chaotic life gets, obviously so long as I am able to control it (eg, not drafted, don’t have to flee the nation, am not abducted by the modern S.A (ICE), etc)

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      Not everyone can.

      Those elements oft scorned by society who might otherwise be ticketed or jailed for sleeping at a park are treated closer to equal when sleeping on the sand.