cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49778353
Also
/c/modabuse. Also/c/yepowertrippinbastards. Alsolemmy.ml/c/worldnews,comrade,ACAB, and 552 individual accounts across 67 instances, about half of them on lemmy.world.None of this is in the source code. It’s downloaded at runtime from a file nobody has ever looked at.
If you’re just tuning in
Tesseract is a third-party web frontend for Lemmy, maintained by asimons04 and licensed AGPL-3.0. Admins deploy it on their own servers alongside or instead of lemmy-ui, and there are public instances of it people use to browse Lemmy generally. If you’ve used a Lemmy site that didn’t look like stock Lemmy, there’s a fair chance it was this.
Last week db0 posted a PSA: Tesseract contains a blacklist of instance domains compiled directly into the application. 32 of them. Admins can’t see it, can’t configure it, and aren’t told it’s there. Connect to a listed instance and the app tells you it’s “incompatible,” which is not true.
I went through the code to see how that was implemented. The hardcoded list turns out to be the small half of the system.
There’s a second filter policy fetched over HTTP every time the app loads. It isn’t in the git repository. It’s unauthenticated and world-readable, so anyone can pull it. Right now it carries 552 user accounts, 2,275 username patterns, 54 instances, 97 communities, 289 keyword patterns and 351 domains, with every category set to hide matches rather than flag them. Not collapsed behind a click. Simply absent, with no indication anything was removed.
Verify all of it in ten seconds
curl -s https://tesseract.dubvee.org/tesseract/api/system/policy \ | base64 -d | gunzip > policy.jsonThat’s the live policy, base64-wrapped gzip, 111KB of JSON when it unpacks. There’s a stale fallback copy at
/data/policy.datas well.It filters criticism of moderators
lemmy.sdf.org/c/modabuse— listedlemmy.dbzer0.com/c/yepowertrippinbastards— listedlemmy.dbzer0.com/c/YPTBcirclejerk— listed- community regex
power ?tripping?- keyword
censoring meCall the rest of it whatever you like. This part is not spam defence.
It filters words
The 32 community name patterns include
Communis(t|m),Conservativ(e|es|ism),Leftis(t|m),Libertarian(ism)?,^Green Part(y|ies),Zionis(t|m),(Police|Cops),guillotineandbillionaire.Keywords include
comrade,ACAB,neoliberal,proletaria(n|t)anddeath to.Filtered communities on instances that aren’t blocked:
lemmy.ml/c/worldnews,lemmy.today/c/news,lemmy.ca/c/politicalnewscanada,lemmy.ca/c/usa,infosec.pub/c/strategic_unions.The 552 users aren’t bots
67 instances. 272 on lemmy.world alone, 40 on sh.itjust.works, 19 on lemmy.ca, and 28 instances contributing exactly one person each.
355 of the 552 usernames are plain alphabetic, twelve characters or under, median length eight. Only 36 look like spam registrations. A bot list looks like the opposite of that.
Seven of them aren’t even Lemmy. There are Mastodon and Friendica accounts in there: people who have never used Lemmy, hidden by a Lemmy frontend, with no possible way of finding out.
I have the list and I’m not posting it. Most of these are ordinary people who got pattern-matched, and 552 names on this comm is a harassment target inside an hour. Run the command above and grep for yourself.
And it lies about it
When the instance block fires you get: “Incompatible Instance. Not Supported. $instance is not compatible with Tesseract.”
Nothing is incompatible. It’s a policy decision dressed as an API error, and it’s what had db0 chasing a version mismatch that never existed.
For the hidden users, communities and keywords, you get no message at all.
Admins can’t switch it off
Tesseract has env vars for
PUBLIC_DOMAIN_BLACKLIST,PUBLIC_FAKE_NEWS_BLACKLISTand the shortener lists. There is none for either blocklist.enableToxicModebypasses the other filters and explicitly not this one.Self-host it and you cannot disable this, nothing in your config admits it exists, and the contents can change without you pulling a commit.
Before someone says it
A lot of that domain list is real spam defence. It filters conservatism as well as communism. “It targets the left” doesn’t survive the data and I’m not going to pretend it does.
The problem is that spam filtering and political editorial got welded into one undocumented, remotely-updatable blob, shipped hidden, to admins who’ve never read it and users who don’t know it’s there. The spam work is what makes the rest unauditable: “it’s a spam list” answers every individual question and none of the whole.
And
/c/modabuseis not spam.Asks
- Publish the runtime policy in the repo, or kill the endpoint.
- Stop reporting a policy block as a technical incompatibility.
- Tell users when something’s been hidden. One line.
- Give operators an off switch, like every other blacklist in the codebase has.
It’s AGPL-3.0 and db0 already forked it. That’s the licence working as designed. But forking isn’t disclosure, and the admins who need this are precisely the ones with no reason to go looking.
If you run Tesseract, you are relaying a 111KB moderation policy you have never read, under your instance’s name, to users who don’t know it exists.
Full contents of every list, unedited, in the comments.
This tells me the project cannot be trusted at all. The dev is clearly willing to ship undisclosed block lists… What’s next, a crypto miner? Credential harvesting? Who knows.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. I wonder what his track record on open source is.
Hilarious. Well, I never used Tesseract, but now I’ll make sure never to recommend it
The developer behind Tesseract is the same user who has displayed the habit of preemptively banning users who have never participated in or even visited his communities, particularly those that were on dubvee.org. Apparently for ideological reasons, or simply for being associated with a particular Lemmy instance.
So at the risk of stirring up even more Fediverse drama by saying it, it seems like the findings above are squarely on brand.
Not to come over all Graham Chapman about it or anything, but I always found that type of behavior to be very silly.
Edit!
I got curious and pulled down the data to have a look. If you want to do this on Windows (don’t @ me about it, alright?)
spoiler
you can just point your browser to https://tesseract.dubvee.org/tesseract/api/system/policy and save it someplace or, if you insist on doing it from a commandline,
curl --output [filename] https://tesseract.dubvee.org/tesseract/api/system/policy.Then to decode from base64:
certutil -decode [inputfile] policy.gzAnd extract:
tar -xf policy.gzOr, you know, just open it in Explorer. The resultant file is just plain text.
Anyway, guess what! I’m on the list. I’m a celebrity, ma! I ought to be on TV.
dubvee has insane ban policies. Like they find people to ban based on posts in coms that have nothing to do with them. It’s almost like SRS on reddit.
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is the same user
Which user specifically
@AdmiralPatrick@lemmy.world / @AdmiralPatrick@dubvee.org.
Based on the comment chain above, https://mander.xyz/u/AdmiralPatrick@dubvee.org
Ohhh that’s why I have some community bans!
Maybe he just really hates tomatoes?
Censoring the phrase ACAB is just wild. Way to tell on yourselves.
You are on that list, too 🏅
I love how making it onto this snowflake’s list is quickly turning into a lemmy badge of honor.
Is it still growing? Do I have have a shot?
I have been ACAB’ing so fucking hard but failed to make the damn list
RECOGNIZE ME, YOU SCUM. I want to be SEEN for the trans anarchist scourge to the system that I am damnit
I want to be on the list! ACAB
Same here, ACAB!
It’s almost like an exclusive club. We should get a little icon to place next to our usernames to commemorate this. “Verified Quality Shitposter” or something like that to make fun of this BS.
I originally read that as ACDC and I was wondering what they had done
Dirty deeds
The real crime was how dirt cheaply they were done.
He’s a cop? Anyway ACAB.
I doubt a cop would be able to even vibe this.
Tons of political shit on that list and then midway through it just decides to ban yuri. Not porn, not furry content, and not hentai. Just yuri
Guy must hate girls having fun. :)
What did the first person in space do to deserve a ban?
"enableKeywordFiltering": true, "hideKeywordMatches": true, "keywords": [ "🥺?👉👈", "0811( |-)?4555588", "@juicypinkrose", "^Article is paywalled.?$",???
What if we kissed inside of the blocklist 🥺👉👈
UwU~
No bottoms allowed, only tops
Oh god, I’m in the user regexes. Should this be an achievement of mine?
Removed by mod
I’ll take what I can get 😤
I’m pretty sure he went by making the broad lists of banned shit, and then ran a query on all the users that came up with saying that stuff.
I’m also on there, so I feel significant.
Or, he hates modern heavy metal, Devin Townsend and Colin Marston in particular.
I was having a genuinely good day until i saw i wasn’t on the list. jesus fucking christ to completion in the hand holes and then wiping himself off in the spear wound what kind of blasphemy does a dude have to commit to get on a list nowadays
… well that’s some damn fine blasphemy right there, if I do say so myself.
I’m apparently on the list.
Honestly, surprised the file is still up for me to pull, t+24 or t+48 hours on.
They bothered to end cap the regex with an $… can’t have anything with ‘sp3ctr4l’ anywhere in the name… I don’t have alts, so… I don’t know what the point of that is…
Oh well.
Not my first time.
I got shadow banned and also just actually banned from half of reddit for calling out mods on their bullshit despite being one of the earliest/oldest users there. Obligatory fuck Spez.
I’m reasonably confident that the twitter account I created soley to scream insults and baseless threats at Elon, when he accidentally bought it, … reasonably confident he personally banned me, as … there weren’t really any other actual support staff at that point time, Elon had revoked their credentials.
I like to think I contributed, at least in a small way, to his subsequent insane crashout telling advertisers to ‘go fuck yourselves’.
… this?
This reminds me of literal petty children running Gmod servers, hardcoding steamid blocklists in hashed files… the hilarious part about that is that they actually bothered to properly encrypt them, so you couldn’t read them without a valid server key.
So this? Actually laughable, I’ve literally seen 14 year olds do this in a more clever way.
Fuckin oi vei, man.
I’m so envious, dude. I am not sure how to explain this drama to my wife. She just knows I’ve been giggling into my coffee all day. The best analogy I could think up was kids running Minecraft servers.
Minecraft servers are often extremely, extremely similar, that is a very close comparison, both technically, and in terms of uh… lets say the ‘character’ of those involved.
Yep.
This is where we’re at.
… trying real hard right now to not go get a pack of smokes, god damnit.
EDIT: Modded Mincraft servers, I should say, are very similar to custom GMod servers/communities.

Tesseract and asimons04 are also protecting pedophiles with this shadowlist. Literally covering up any and all references to them or their crimes. This is from the keyword list.
Corpo ?(turd|slut|tech)
These keywords are hilarious.
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I like that hamburger unit is blocked.
Dvdfab.cn? How random… a dvd ripping software…
So “pedo” is blacklisted, buts its ok to use “paedo” 🤔
How is it every single nazi turns out to be a pedophile? It’s truly magical how you can guarantee that if someone is this far right-wing, they like to fuck kids.
This is very upsetting. I could see an argument if it was made a user toggle for a “more friendly experience” or something like that (Like the enable toxic mode toggle), but hiding the blacklist and then an opaque error message is cowardly. Having it be pulled every time from another website instead of built into the software is also a very clear accountability dodge.
Also reading over the file, I think it’s biased, especially towards unfairly heavy moderation.
Edit: Just noticed I’m on the blocklist. What he said fuck me for?
Edit: Just noticed I’m on the blocklist. What he said fuck me for?
Figuring this out has been interesting, but then again based on that user could have just said something they didn’t like in a random thread so they put you on the list
"software": [ "goofed" ],what the fuck is goofed
You done goofed. I’ve already backtraced your IP.
Yes, hello, cyber police? Yes. I have a backtraced IP to report.
Good luck, I’m behind 7 proxies.
"(freedom|hamburger|murica) unit","^Paywall(ed|s|\"d)?(…|\\.+)?$", "^Paywalled,? ?sorry?\\.? Can’t read it\\.?$", "pedophile", "Perchance", "pis+rael",
Lol fucking “Perchance”? Whhhy?
pis+rael sent me
l+ratio+bozo+cap+pis+rael
"usgreenlandwar", "^worldnewsnonus", "^Yuri|^WholesomeYuri", "Zionis(t|m)"Pedophile and perchance
Perchance a pedophile?
pissssssssrael
It’s just such a weird group. Why is the y in “paywalled sorry can’t read it” optional? Lol
Yeah that’s the kind of thing I noticed, too - some of it just appears to be random phrases, not targeted speech. To be clear, definitely some of it is targeted, and examples are all over this post, but there are also things that seem like it’s just something that is a personal hangup of the program authors. Like the authors of the program might just really dislike if someone says, “To be clear” (not present, it’s just an example), or they’re overreacting to a comment that pissed them off one time.
I want a philosophical analysis of every popular videogame character made by this user.

This goofy?
If you wanted to, it would be good to know which maintainers made the commits and approved PRs, and what other projects they run or contribute to.
What happened with Tesseract could happen with any of those.
fwiw I’d recommend photon, it’s fantastic and the dev seems to work really hard on it. Hope they aren’t doing something shady either!
it’s not my job to moderate the fediverse, you won’t need to worry about seeing any of this in photon
appreciate it :)
There are a few solid ones there. Photon and Blorp are my personal favourites on desktop
Do you know if either of them support user tagging? Currently on the default lemmy UI but I’d jump in a heartbeat for user tagging.
Blorp seems to support it: select the three dots next to a username -> Author -> Tag Author
There is discussion about adding this to Lemmy proper: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/1456
Thank you! Will check that out. Much appreciated.
comrades I want on the list acab pls
Why is
"^Yuri|^WholesomeYuri"in the community name filter? Why are anime lesbians hard blocked, while ani.social is just in the default user filter?Filtered communities on instances that aren’t blocked: lemmy.ml/c/worldnews
ml is in the instance filter?



























