I typically go with 20%, but that’s just a guess.

  • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    1 month ago

    I’m so glad I don’t live in the US no more…

    Where I live now in Europe, people earn a salary that allows them to live a decent life. And if you try to tip em, they get offended because you assume they’re poor and they don’t make enough money.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 month ago

        I have yet to meet a poor barber. I see them generating over $200 an hour in a cash business. Mine talks about his new house, his Vegas vacations and he’s barely 30.

      • mursejoy@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        Nobody gets offended by tips here because if you’re working for tips you are poor.

        It’s pretty awful that all of the service people make shit wage, but if they’d just band together and unionize things would get better. Assholes in corporate America can’t show up without a good haircut. Barbers should strike for a month and see what that does to their wages.

        Alas, poor people can’t strike. That’s exactly how the ruling class wants it. If you can’t miss a meal today, you’re not planning on better meals next week.

      • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 month ago

        I know. But they allow themselves to be poor: they consistently vote against their own interests and they don’t unionize.

    • magnetosphere@fedia.ioOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      1 month ago

      Wow… are you saying tipping sucks? I didn’t know that! Thank you for providing such an original response instead of a useful answer!

      • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        1 month ago

        The hidden answer was: don’t tip. When nobody tips, workers will finally ask livable wages from their employers instead of relying on semi-compulsory handouts.

        • magnetosphere@fedia.ioOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 month ago

          I see your point, but a change like that would require major legal changes, which would take years. In the meantime, I don’t want to screw people who rely on tips to live.

          • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 month ago

            Yes I understand your dilemma. The problem is, everybody thinks the same way and the beat goes on: the employers don’t pay their employees the true price of their labor because they know the patrons will make up the difference.

            The system is allowed to continue by shaming customers into paying, and I’m not doing shame-based scams.

            Incidentally: you know who makes a killing out of the Americans’ stupid habits of tipping? The French.

            In France, the gratuity is included in the price. But most Americans don’t know that and tip the waiters - meaning they get double the money.

            That’s why, whenever I go to France, I speak my native tongue in restaurants instead of speaking French - which I speak also: the waiter treats us real good all evening long because they think they’re gonna milk a good load of money out of us. But when I pull out my credit card from a European bank, they instantly stop being nice 🙂

            Fuck tipping, regardless of the country.

        • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 month ago

          Don’t forget that when you do this, you’re deciding what issues that worker should be protesting.

          They didn’t agree to hunger strike for YOUR cause. Those are hard working people that rely on those tips because of the system that exists. Whether or not the system should work this way is debatable (for what it’s worth, I agree that it shouldn’t be this way) but for now, tipping IS part of the social contract, and not tipping a server doesn’t make you an activist, it makes you an asshole.

          This is specifically for servers, and gig workers (Uber drivers, delivery services) There are a lot of people I don’t tip, because they aren’t making half of minimum wage per hour. I don’t often tip anyone other profession unless they’ve really gone above and beyond.

        • tmyakal@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 month ago

          workers will finally ask for livable wages from their employers

          Most states allow booth renting, which means that the barber or stylist is paying the salon/shop owner for the privilege of working there. They can be expected to help keep the place clean, only sell products the shop owner authorizes, be available for walk-ins a certain number of hours per week, and keep pricing in line with that shop’s policies, but otherwise they’re “their own boss.” Whatever that means at that point.

          So many barbers and stylists are not making wages. They’ve effectively got a landlord who sets their prices for them. The only power they have is to change shops and hope for a less abusive landlord, but that also risks alienating reliable and repeating customers.

          It’s an absolutely fucked and predatory system. It requires a legislative fix, but just like the other big tip-dependent sector of food service, the people in these jobs are overwhelmingly overworked women struggling to make ends meet. Many people find it difficult to engage in political advocacy when they’re struggling to survive.

          Basically, I hate this “ask for livable wages” rhetoric because at-risk people have the hardest time self-advocating. Don’t blame poor people for being poor. See that there’s a problem and advocate on for them.

          • mursejoy@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 month ago

            The real fix is that nobody shows up to do the job that doesn’t get paid by the employer or tipped by the customer. Force the worker to do something else and suddenly wages increase due to worker scarcity.

            Garbage truck drivers don’t make good money out of the kindness of Waste Management’s heart. Nobody wants to do that job so the price for the employee goes up.

            Americans are just too stupid to realize that when a customer doesn’t tip, it’s not the customers fault the employee isn’t getting paid. I wish the country would wake up already.

        • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 month ago

          This is absurd. What employee anywhere wouldn’t ask for more pay? What employer is holding out on raising their employee’s pay simply because they haven’t asked?

          Above you also commented that “they continually vote against their own best interests and don’t unionize” but what are you even talking about? Are you claiming most barbers are conservatives? Most barbers are independent contractors.

  • AskewLord@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    25-30% but i like my barber.

    i also stopped going and I cut my own hair now because paying $50-60 for a 10-15m haircut is just insane. most haircuts in my city start at 35-45 bucks now.

    I go back 1-2 times a year now for when I need a really good cut for an event. Otherwise I can spend 20m cutting my own hair.

    i used to go every 8 weeks and spend like $25.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      1 month ago

      I give a solid 25%, but my cuts generally take the better part of an hour, because I have thick and relatively curly hair; also I’ve known my barber for over a decade and she does reliably excellent work.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 month ago

      every 8 weeks and spend like $25

      $35+ every 3 weeks here. I sublimate from Tidy to Schlub overnight on day 22.

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    so here’s my “no stupid questions”: How on god’s green earth could you possibly afford tipping a barber 20%? Are american barbers dirt cheap or do you just actually consider it perfectly reasonable to pay closer to 100 bucks for someone to trim your hair?

  • bluGill@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago
    1. Barbers do no get tips. Hair stylists do get tipped though, all your big chains are stylists.
  • bizarroland@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 month ago

    I typically go with 50%.

    That way, when I come back to that barber, if I come back to that barber because I like their work, they’re going to remember, oh shit, this dude tips 50%, I’d better hook him the fuck up.

    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 month ago

      This trick also works for waitresses in Vegas. Tip well and they’ll bring you a fresh, non-watered down drink as fast as you can drink them.

    • bizarroland@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      And for the down voters out there, I’m a guy, and men’s haircuts are typically like 20 bucks, so a 50% tip is an extra $10.

      It’s not like I’m shelling out a grand or something.

  • palordrolap@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    “Customers should leave your purview with the hair on their head, and possibly face, styled, trimmed or even extended, as close to their preference as possible.”