• SailorFuzz@lemmy.world
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    He is either not a US American, or the “Never Forget” nation forgot to properly teach him.

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      I live in one of those “never forget” nations that promised to never forget something… but it seems that we, too, managed to forget.

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        Psssssst…

        Damit besagte Personengruppen es vergessen könnten, müssten die es erstmal verstehen. Das würde Bildung erfordern und da wird dann schwierig… Wir haben kein Geld für Bildung. Das haben die Reichen.

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          It is more that the rich ensured that education focused primarily on the aesthetic horrors of fascism rather than its material origin. The impetus for bonapartist tendencies was never removed so it eventually returned as conditions necessitated. The rich could not admit it was the system they uphold and benefit from that gave rise to fascism without endangering their positions and implicating themselves.

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            I want to upvote the “aesthetic horrors” but it’s not “the rich”. It’s just human stupidity and laziness in trying to educate children.

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              you would be shocked to find out who writes and owns your textbook and course curriculums. Idk what textbooks are like in Europe exactly but american education is effectively propaganda when it comes to historical subjects. Tbh though, whether these things are owned and written by your government or private interests they are influenced by bourgeois politics and the historical perspective it creates. All of our retellings of history are influenced by the dominant ideology of their era.

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      When I was in schools, American history was Pilgrims, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, The Great Depression, and WWI. Then it was summer. We might have a school assembly in February to talk about MLK.

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        If you were to ask my teachers, American history goes revolutionary war, then nothing happens for awhile, then the civil war, then nothing happens for awhile, then WW1 had to happen so that we could have ourselves a WORLD WAR TWO! The four years that make up 9/10ths of American history. And then the Japanese signed the surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri and then stuff I-the boomer history teacher-personally remember so it legally can’t be history.

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          It’s so great that the US single handedly won the only war that ever happened in Asia. Good thing there hasn’t been any major conflict on that side of the world since then.

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            It’s kinda clear how the curriculum was designed, after all according to this class Japan was only discovered in 1939. Russia pops in an out of existence, Korea and Vietnam are fictional and Africa is where Egypt is.

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              I feel like it’s a bit unfair to single out America as being the only country who heavily skews their own nations history, or just completely bullshits their impacts on other nations…

              Britain aint exactly being very clear about what the East India Trading Company was doing. Or the British Raj for that matter.

              Japan still teaches WW2 history in the vaguest of terms without admitting any wrongdoing. Unit 731 is not apart of those lessons.

              Not saying any of this is justified, just that nearly every nation does it. Everyone’s the hero of their own story.

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                Well and going back to my original point, US history class at least for me ended at 1946, when the UN UN-nazi’d the world forever after having defeated Charlie Chaplain. And I think it’s because much after that and the generations that were (and still fucking are god dammit) in control of curricula personally remember those events and thus refuse to label them as “history.” Because my 70 year lifespan is basically now, so if kids these days don’t remember the Tet Offensive that’s they’re own fault, god fuck 'em.

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        Did you finish school prior to 2001? Cuz, I mean, that’s everything I learned in school too at that time.

        But my daughter is 13 now, and I can confirm that she has been formerly told about 9/11. I don’t think with as much detail as she will learn in her during her high school tenure, but she at least knows about it.

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      Well, the number of people talking about the 3 planes getting hijacked on another thread makes me think we’ve forgotten at least a little bit.