MapQuest stood up to President Donald Trump, and now its app is reaping the rewards.
The “OG of online mapping,” as the company calls itself, announced on Thursday that it would not change the name of Lake Ontario on its maps to Lake America, despite Trump’s executive order directing the U.S. Department of the Interior to update the lake’s name in the U.S. geographic naming service. As a result, MapQuest’s mobile app downloads soared, sending the iOS app to the No. 4 position on the U.S. App Store’s Top Charts for apps (not including games) as of Monday morning on the U.S. east coast.
MapQuest also reached the No. 8 position overall in the U.S. App Store across both apps and games, and it became the No. 1 Navigation app in the United States.
Great! Hope people more move away from Google Maps. OSM would be even better, but MapQuest is a good step away from the Monopoly of Google.
Edit: Just realized that in Google Maps the acronym for the Great Lakes is no longer “HOMES” but could now be known as “SHAME”.
I just checked and OSM had the lake listed as Lake Ontario, so that app is good to go as well.
Tested CoMaps and Mapy but they don’t seem to have names of lakes and other bodies of water?
I was about to pivot to CoMaps but then saw this mapquest thing taking off…
One way or another, Google is out. GrapheneOS is in this week.
GrapheneOS is in this week
I really, really want to get there, just need to get with the program and find a good, late-model Pixel on the used market.
The 9 Pro has served me well since I got it shortly after release. 👍
You need nothing special. Was running on a 7 until I broke it, now on 8a. Zero issues. I buy mine used on eBay. They are all the same candy bar anymore. Does .2150 extra sq inches of screen really matter?
I used to buy the top shelf phones. Went to pixel a-types and gave never felt like I am missing anything.
So while the popular media is distracted by this, what is the Trump admin doing that I should actually care about?
- restarted war with Iran
- food safety is plummeting in the US
- citizens and immigrants are being locked up and deported, mostly for being the wrong skin color
- AI bubble is getting closer to popping and wiping out literally all of your savings
- everything from soda to aircraft set to go up in price after Trump fucks with aluminum supply from Canada
- Jared Kushner is strategizing with Democratic leadership
- the FCC will start going after news reporters who run stories that make Trump look bad even when they’re objectively true
- still no Epstein files (or arrests)
- flock cameras still gaining momentum
For that final one, there was a post earlier about how Flock lost contracts only for city councils to replace them with a different surveillance provider.
It’d be better to divorce Flock from the real issue: i.e. “Neighborhood surveillance is pushing forward”.
We can’t let rat-bastards who would sell out their towns and cities pretend the grievance is just against Flock and not against all of the surveillance.
They lost them to Axon, which at least currently do not aggregate the data between districts. So still bad, but less bad
Just means Axon’s strategy is to get the contracts and the surveillance infrastructure in place first.
Hence “at least currently”. Although they’re best known for manufacturing tasers and body cams, not so much cloud services.
Joke’s on them, my savings was wiped out years ago.
Theyre also continuing to extort Venezuela for its oil, and theyre still illegally holding the country’s leader as a hostage.
AI bubble is getting closer to popping
i knew AI was a bubble but i hadn’t heard the other part. what’s happened besides the end of “tokenmaxxing”?
Nvidia feels the need to further escalate the cricular financing, vastly increasing its own exposure when the bubble bursts. That would be incredibly stupid for them to do unless they think they have to do it, to keep the market from imploding on itself. This kind of financial engineering should be illegal, but it isn’t.
In addition to the other comment about Nvidia’s circular financing, token prices are sliding as competition is increasing, while datacenter construction and operating costs are only going up. Companies are running low on money to the point where even the megacaps like facebook and google are issuing new shares for the first time in over a decade. These are companies which have collectively dumped trillions of dollars into share buybacks and held a trillion in cash on hand by the time AI came around.
Once the venture capital money is spent but the bills still keep coming, one bad earnings report will confirm what everyone is expecting. People will lose faith of the future growth that these valuations are built on, which will crater the stock prices and wipe out at least 20% of the S&P500 at a minimum.
Trans people losing rights
V-Coding and forced detransition/involuntary conversion torture
the FCC will start going after news reporters who run stories that make Trump look bad even when they’re objectively true
I haven’t seen anything specific about this, just that dozing diaper dementia donny the daughter diddler goes off on toddler-like tantrums anytime anyone isn’t stroking his ego…
AI bubble is getting closer to popping and wiping out literally all of your savings
So short the market and profit from the downfall. What’s the problem?
Too expensive unless you can predict exactly when the bubble is going to burst.
The market can remain irrational longer then you can remain solvent
“The_ DOW is over 50,000!”
*was
I am an anti-capitalist and I think about investing in the stock market similarly to how religious people view gambling (e.g. not just sinful in an abstract sense, but an actively terrible financial idea in the short term, too).
Ever notice how there are like… regular market collapses? And the only people making a lot of money are very obviously doing insider trading?
Anyone who has ever invested in the stock market has already lost more money than I ever will.
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Everything they do is to keep you distracted from those Epstein files.
They have plenty of other evil motives besides just distracting from the Epstein files.
OpenStreetMap also has it as Lake Ontario:
They also have navigation called OSMAnd.
Here in the You Knighted States of Murica, we ain’t gon use no OSAMA maps app
No that makes sense, I hear many Americans refuse to use GPS, because no one can tell them where to drive, they drive where they want and which way they want. Not according to what some sissy computer tells them.
FREEDOM! 😋But they’ll listen to chatgpt about shooting up a school.
It’s actually more interesting than this. Open Street Map has a long history of supporting multiple names for the same place. There seems to have been a bit of an edit war since the executive order was issued, but as of now we have
<tag k="name" v="Lake Ontario"/>and<tag k="official_name:en-US" v="Lake America"/>. There are also 36 other name tags, mostly listing the name of the lake in different languages. I initially assumed that all those others were added in the last couple of days as a way to sort of protest by taking the whole thing to an absurd level. But the change log actually shows that 27 of them were already in the tags long before the executive order was issued. And honestly, I like it this way better. Instead of making Trumps announcement big to the point of absurdity, OSM has made it small to the point of inconsequence. Trump said he wanted to change the name of the lake, and OSM said “sure, whatever, your name for it can be number 28 on the list of names that people have for it. And actually, while we’re on the topic, it looks like we missed a few. Lets throw on 8 more to make sure everyone is represented.”Could someone please add tag
douchebag_name?TIA!
But I’d argue comaps is better
OSM is CoMaps’ data source.
I’m aware, probably could have worded that better on my end
In my experience OsmAnd is way better than Comaps.
In OsmAnd I can type in a business name or an address and not only will it bring up the correct address but it will allow me to navigate. I can do neither in Comaps. Also OsmAnd has CarPlay/Android Auto support with the paid version.
Comaps has carplay as well
Yeah I mean at the end of the day it really comes down to preference
Haven’t tried it, but it’s based on OpenStreetMap, so I guess it also calls it Lake Ontario.
Why is comaps better?Completely free and open source, simpler UI for anyone to get into imo
I thought OSMAND was Open Source too.
I never paid anything for using it.Osmand has a free and a paid version on play store and a fully foss version on fdroid
I’m using the one from F-Droid.
The UX is just easier to adjust to imo
OK, I’ll give it a try, although I generally use the 1 in my car. But maybe I like comaps better ?.
Needs Android Auto support
Android Auto is a proprietary Google service, and so usually is restricted to the Google Play Store version of an app.
Ah good call! I’ll have to try that.
Has it? Just unfortunately only on the google store version 😭
I haven’t tried comaps, so maybe it has similar features, but the OsmAnd profiles and plugins are great. Driving, hiking, biking, walking, basically any form of transportation can be used and with plugins and overlays show info pertinent to each method while excluding extraneous info.
And if you get it from fdroid or compile it yourself(?) it’s the pro version with more features for free.
I try and contribute to osm as much as i can but its still worefully lacking in information like open/close hours, and public transit routes
I still use google maps 80% of the time, :(
Is OsmAnd legit? It’s not from OSM directly from what I recall
yes, good app
Thanks for sharing!
Worst product name ever.
Also, crappy app too. I appreciate that they are trying, but it has been crap for years.
Tried it again a few months ago. The spoken navigation wounded like it just huffed a can of butane. Real low, slow and fucked up sounding.
Resistance at even the smallest level matters.
Yep, this orange motherfucker shouldn’t be able to do anything without going through court to force it to happen, and even then ignore it until someone shows up to MAKE you do it. Use his own bullshit against him.
Canada should rename Lake Superior to Lake Obama, “because Obama is Superior”.
“because Obama is Superior”
I love that idea. This phrase makes it super-easy to remember the name change and what went before.
And the new mnemonic is HOME-O
Love this! They should just add Obama so it reads ‘Lake Superior Obama’
Just call it Lake Obama is Superior
Mapquest still exists? Encarta it!
I asked Jeeves, and he told me it still exists. To celebrate, I played some Neopets and then logged into a fun MUSH game.
Yeah right. Going to get that AOL disc that came with PCGamer and check if I’ve got mail next.
I was sadly surprised to find out that Kagi maps follwed Trumps lead on misnaming both the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario.
I’m likely to ditch them over this. It’s not just a matter of principal. If I can’t trust them to stand up to Trumps temper tantrums on this, how can I trust that any of their other results haven’t been tampered with?
Still says Lake Ontario for me when checking from Switzerland.
Both Lake Ontario and Gulf Of Mexico for me and I’m in the USA.
that is probably playing both sides as much as possible like google does (Lake America if you enter it from US, Ontario otherwise)
If it makes you feel better a lot of Canadian and other international services now display it as America because they are cheap and are just all pulling it from the same Google API source.
I wish it did but that doesn’t really help me.
I’d rather a few services are good rather than that every service sinks to lowest level.
They pull from MapBox. Also I see lake Ontario on a US IP
It’s interesting that users on the Kagi forums report different answers. It seems that both US and Canadian customers may see either Lake Ontario or Lake America.
That would suggest that pulling from MapBox is orthogonal to the decision of what to show the end user.
Kagi has always given me bad vibes. So I’m not really that surprised over this.
Since america now calls it Lake america we can nickname it Lac inférieure.
USA is not a Democracy when one man (President) can decide how something will be named. It seems that President have unlimited power, he can do whatever he want, manipulate markets in a most corruptive way, incarcerate who ever he want, bomb and kill at his will.
My last hope for this to be not true will be tested in November, depending on the result, I’ll finally declare USA as Fascism. But even if not, the next presidential election needs to be an entire (progressive/socialistic) turnaround, to stop this continuous degeneration of “democracy”, and there’s a lot of damage of this administration, that needs repair over the next decades.
The US is fascist.
I’m convinced that the most optimal way forward is for it to split. Why the fuck do California or New York have to keep financing a bunch of fascist mouthbreathers with genocidal tendencies? I don’t think it’s possible for the country to recover as one, whole swaths of it literally need cult deprogramming.
As I said, it certainly does have a lot of fascist tendencies, but I wouldn’t declare it fascist (yet) as long as elections are still somewhat proper, that’s why i said November is an interesting date. I think for this to be actual fascism (also do not devalue the actual fascisms we have/had so far), democracy needs to be almost entirely oppressed. We’ve seen in New York that there’s still at least a little bit of hope, for this to be turned around.
But I agree, it needs a lot of cult deprogramming, and I’m very much concerned about the mental health of the average american…
What do you make of all their attempts to restrict voting for the upcoming election, including having lists of “eligible” (read: Republican) voters? It’s not just one or two bills either, they’re pushing this with all of their energy, including petitioning SCROTUS for emergency measures.
Is this not enough to call it fascist? Why do they need to have success before you call something for what it is? Someone with homicidal tendencies is a threat before they kill someone, why do pedophile fascists get a pass?
attempts
right, it’s obvious that they want to be fascists, and so far they are succeeding…
That’s not what I meant though. I meant that the whole system is not yet in a state that I would call fascism yet, or well, at least until this next election which I think is a very good test for the “democracy” there…
And my hope is, that Trump is that unpopular that they will indeed fail to continue with this…
Unlike smarter authoritarians/dictators, he’s not very good so far at this (although ~1/3 of the population is already brain dead, which is in his favor, but probably not enough…). But I don’t know, americans have already disappointed me twice, so it stays hope…
Obama renamed Denali and this guy’s been crying to prove anything Obama can change, he can change faster
And tape kids
Organic maps still has the gulf of Mexico not the gulf of trumps taint.
I’ve been happy with Organic Maps
Isn’t it over now? Did you mean CoMaps?
I don’t think he knows about CoMaps pip.
Organic Maps is still a thing. I see that they had an update a week ago on the app store. CoMaps was a fork of OM and some (most?) of the devs left, but OM didn’t stop being developed.
Interesting… I assumed it was dead Anyways CoMaps ftw!
Yeah, CoMaps definitely captured most of the attention when it forked and explained why, but I guess the Organic Maps devs who remained kept at it.
MapQuest needs to add Android Auto support. Loving the icons, though!
Second that
Once again Going Woke doesn’t equal Going Broke
Apple Maps still shows it as its real name, although they eventually capitulated to the dumb alternate name to the Gulf of Mexico. I doubt it’ll last long.
Apple maps also took forever to update on the gulf change so I expect you are correct.
Apple maps suck peniz
Just checked Waze, and they are still showing Lake Ontario.
Waze? Ew.
You know that’s Israeli tech that shares data with Palantir right?
You know it’s owned by Google so it’s really weird that it’s still showing that
Honestly I didn’t. I just knew they shared data with Palantir and when I went to confirm that I also found out that it was an Israeli app.
Is Google supposed to be better?
Luckily I tried the app once and deleted it instantly because it was burning through battery at a ridiculous rate.
They bought it years ago. Most of the features are integrated into Google maps. It is better then Israeli owned. But it’s still not great. But it makes it weird that they haven’t changed the name on that.
Thank you
Waze is Google. The change is coming.
