• tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
      7·
      8 days ago

      I like to frequent HackerNews for some of the discussions there, but… my god, the front page just turns me off. I do a quick glance, see if anything isn’t some not-so-subtly covert advert for an LLM product, and just navigate away.

      There are some alternative front pages (https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai) to make it bearable, but even then

  • m-p{3}@lemmy.caEnglish
    111·
    8 days ago

    Personally I don’t mind it too much, as long as

    • there’s no vote manipulation to artificially boost the post
    • there are genuine interactions in the comments
    • the account posting this is properly labelled as a bot account (if it’s an actual bot)
        • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          I’ve run this experiment before. ~90% of accounts sampled on the top 20 /r/all with not prior post history before 2-3 months got converted to cryptocurrency spam bots. Some of the remainder were porn spam. A few deleted accounts. A few seemingly real people. This was during the heights of cryptocurrency mania. Believe me or don’t. I can’t be assed with source dropping internet-pseud wankery.

          Bot deception tactics have certainly changed since the prevalence of LLMs. I haven’t been paying attention to what the patterns have shifted to. Before these times, it was easily spotted because they were relatively simple.

          I believe earlier this year someone on /r/theoryofreddit spotted closed networks of subreddits where bots engage with each other. Those are used to farm accounts on a massive scale.

      • odelik@lemmy.todayEnglish
        4·
        8 days ago

        Don’t call out that, cus that’s just as hateful as hate! /s

        Or something like that I presume.

        It’s not* even tolerance paradox shit (which only exists if you misunderstand what tolerance is), it’s full blown normalization of biggoted behavior.

        • baddaywithacamera@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 days ago

          It is frustrating for sure. I do appreciate the higher signal to noise ratio in the fediverse and also that it is decentralized, I think it makes for a better experience overall.

          Cheers to you. :)

  • CovfefeKills@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    8 days ago

    As long as the bot is allowed to be there it’s not a problem it’s not ideal obviously. It should be considered if it is actually a good idea will the community ever develop if it is just already 100% reddit reposts?

    • WarshipJesus@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      8 days ago

      I think it’s kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. Hopefully the community existing and having regular posts increases the odds of user interaction like comments and votes, which would naturally lead to more and more posts from actual members. Hopefully whoever is running that bot can wind it down while actual engagement ramps up.

  • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
    63·
    7 days ago

    Good. Lemmy needs more content. I hate that I miss out on so much by being here, but I can’t go back to reddit. Therefore I welcome the bots with open arms.

    • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      7 days ago

      I’m ok with that if it’s on a separate instance that’s easy to block/hide (which has been happening already). Where I take issue is bots taking over communities where humans post.

      • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        7 days ago

        No, by “I can’t”, I mean that I don’t want to go back to reddit. Dodging a ban is easy, but fuck reddit. I can’t stand all the low IQ MAGA-types and general American stupidity there. At least Lemmy’s conservatives have enough brain cells firing that you can have a proper debate with them…

          • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            7 days ago

            No, just the good reddit content, lol
            Like what is shown in OP’s screenshot. Niche content too, 'cause that pretty much doesn’t exist here. We desperately need it.

  • Konala Koala@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    8 days ago

    Well then, better hope we don’t have “Lemmy repost bots taking over entire communities” happening next.

  • auzy1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    9 days ago

    Yep. I see this all over the new feed.

    It’s stupid just reposting 100% from another place. If I wanted that, I’d just go there.

  • solidheron@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    7 days ago

    More like reddit has so much content it dwarf’s lemmy, but it was bound to happen, you can always mute the bots

    • TheShamMirrors@lemmy.todayEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      I’ll drop everything and come to piefed right now. On god.

      Question though: How or will you differentiate between people who are scheduling mass posts from reddit from people who just saved memes that also happened to be there?

      • Bumrocky@lemmy.world
        English
        1·
        8 days ago

        I hate the reddit reposts where the only interaction is on reddit … that defeats the point of lemmy\fediverse?

    • LordMayor@piefed.socialEnglish
      0·
      8 days ago

      If you can detect it, you could auto ban them, no?

      I think a rule against serial reposting would be fine and, probably, popular.

      • SolSerkonos@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        8 days ago

        I wouldn’t like a blanket rule like that. I think that dropdown menu in the screenshot is perfect. Especially if paired with a toggle in the community settings that lets the mods ban posts from them entirely.

      • Despair@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        8 days ago

        Isn’t that just a client side filter, would be up to whoever runs the community/instance rules for handling bot accounts, and if they feel the accounts should be banned.

        • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
          11·
          8 days ago

          Yes the screenshot is just the user settings. Admins are going to have to manually designate accounts as reposters because I haven’t even tried to make an automated detection. That would be very hard to get right.

          • SourGumGum@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            7 days ago

            How is this any different to a user blocking them directly? What a useless feature.

            Edit: Really? Trying to mark me as a bot or possibly dox my IP by visiting your link because I thought it was a bad idea?

      • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
        01·
        8 days ago

        It’s manually-applied and reversible. I can’t reliably code an automatic reposter detection system because they’re all different. It’s going to have to be a human judgement.

        Similar to labelling things as AI-generated or NSFW - being a reposter isn’t necessarily bad. It just means that people who don’t mind whether they see it can do so and those who don’t want to can avoid it, without the conflict that ensues when people with different needs and tastes are forced to share space.

        • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          0·
          8 days ago

          And you’re leaving this up to individuals, not your judgement, right? If so, good idea. If not, eww.

          • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
            02·
            8 days ago

            Individuals, yeah. Instance admins are going to need to designate reposters if they refuse to self-designate (and Lemmy doesn’t have functionality for them to do that, except as a bot) and then it’s up to individuals to decide whether they filter out reposters or not.

            • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              7 days ago

              Oh, so you’re leaving the labeling to instance admins, not individuals. That’s problematic, but you do you.

              • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
                2·
                7 days ago

                The label doesn’t do anything until individuals opt in to filtering based on it.

                We can’t leave it to the reposters to self-identify because

                1. Lemmy does not have the functionality to do that and

                2. reposters are deceptive and sneaky