• GigaFlop@kbin.social
    1525·
    9 months ago

    Technically false
    Gamer here, use Linux cause proton is good and I’m fed up with windows lol

    • Camelbeard@lemmy.world
      202·
      9 months ago

      I kind of really dislike the notion that you only use Linux because you are too poor for Apple.

      I don’t use Apple because I don’t like to be stuck in a walled garden where a company decides what’s best for me.

      I know it’s just a meme, but I think too many people actually think Linux is somehow inferior to Apple (MacOS) while I think it’s the other way around.

      • okamiueru@lemmy.world
        111·
        9 months ago

        Also. MacOS is absolute garbage. I’ve used it for 4 months now, and it pisses me off how inconsistent it is, and poorly designed and written. Two days wasted because of an almost bricked laptop because the monitor was set to 60Hz while installing an update. Just think about that.

        I also had the misfortune of booting into windows after changing a motherboard. It was an absolute shit show there too, with broken drivers. Two hours of debugging. Had to use a long ethenet cable to even start fixing it, a flashback to a Linux experience I had in 2007.

        Same system in Linux? Not a single second spent. WiFi drivers, microcode. Everything worked fine. Only thing necessary was fixing the grub/mbr partition that Windows decided to write over, on a separate drive. But that’s also Microsoft being shit.

        People just don’t know how much more usable Linux is these days. Especially for power users. You can do so many things, so easily, that either works out of the box, or you can do with simple scripting. The only issue is software availability, but that too is mostly a thing of the past, and not really a fault of the OS.

        • greencactus@lemmy.world
          51·
          9 months ago

          Yes, I agree. Just holy cactus, MacOS is just so bad these days. The inconsistency us driving me nuts. Why do the windows you open with the “help” menus inside of apps have small buttons? Why do some apps (e.g. Music) have a Search entry on the left side, and why do so have it on the left? Why do we still have tons of icons for system apps (Photo Booth, I’m looking at you) who have been programmed in a time where there have been dinosaurs around and seem to have never changed? … And so on. Like honestly, MacOS is so much better that Windows (which admittedly isn’t hard), but when I open up my good ol’ Fedora I dont have the feeling that I see a new shiny operating system, and when I click on a wrong button I am in the 1990-s again. Or 2050-s. Or God knows where. Linux has its unique set of challenges, but I fully agree that the notion that “MacOS is better than the rest” just isn’t true anymore. Maybe it was, when Linux distributions were worse and there was more money put into bugfixing OS releases. But not anymore.

      • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
        32·
        9 months ago

        I kind of really dislike the notion that you only use Linux because you are too poor for Apple.

        It’s supposed to be funny 🤷 😂, like a very simplified version of how things actually are.

    • firecat@kbin.social
      525·
      9 months ago

      Not good enough for DRM games, most mmo games or playing on private servers in minecraft or something.

      • Secret300@sh.itjust.works
        25·
        9 months ago

        What’s are you talking about with Minecraft? I’ve always been able to joins any server cause it’s the same game.

        • _hovi_@lemmy.world
          16·
          9 months ago

          Yeah plenty of actual examples for games that don’t work / work well on Linux. Minecraft is not on that list

        • firecat@kbin.social
          222·
          9 months ago

          Private servers not official Microsoft ones you login on the game. A server that isn’t connected by Microsoft organization in the Minecraft community. That’s the private server im talking about.

          • Metz@lemmy.worldEnglish
            24·
            9 months ago

            I play Minecraft without any problem on:

            1. Local LAN Game
            2. Local Private Server (Forge mostly).
            3. Online Private Server. either my own or from others.
            4. Official Internet Server

            No idea what problems you seem to have but Minecraft works 100% perfect on Linux.

            • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              111·
              9 months ago

              Think they mean Bedrock, not Java

              Bedrock is the windows-forced version and has Realms, which is probably what they mean by private server

              Really good example of the difference between old and new school PC gaming right there

              • Metz@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                9 months ago

                Oh yes, I had actually forgotten that this things exists. You could be right. But quick search says there is a way to use Bedrock on linux and connect to all kind of servers / realms as well. even together with java users. but tbh, i have not looked deeper into it.

          • Secret300@sh.itjust.works
            71·
            9 months ago

            Yeah nah I host my own Minecraft server and you’re just wrong. I’ve used multiple server softwares as well that have nothing to do with Microsoft. Are you talking about bedrock edition maybe?

      • penguin@sh.itjust.works
        51·
        9 months ago

        I think it’s almost at the point where the only games that don’t work are games with anti cheat that refuse to play nicely.

      • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
        62·
        9 months ago

        If the DRM or anticheat needs low enough level access that it won’t run in wine I don’t think I really want it running on my computer either way.

      • reddithalation@sopuli.xyz
        1·
        9 months ago

        minecraft (java, not sure about bedrock) on linux is flawless, private servers work exactly as they do on windows.

    • M137@lemmy.world
      929·
      9 months ago

      Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

      (I don’t have a mac, wish I did though).

      Cue the apple hater replies, this will be fun.

      • AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world
        11·
        9 months ago

        Mac was fantastic in the '80s

        Mac was great in the "90s

        Mac was good in the '00s

        Linux Mint was fantastic in the '10s

      • cm0002@lemmy.world
        3·
        9 months ago

        (I don’t have a mac, wish I did though).

        Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

        Putting all my legitimate Apple/MacOS concerns/arguments aside, how can you declare a product as “Worth every penny” when you yourself have not used it for an extensive period of time? Attempted to integrate it into your workflow?

    • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      That doesn’t mean it is not a great meme!

      Just look at all the butt hurt comments complaining about the content :)

    • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
      383·
      9 months ago

      You can tell because it suggests Linux isn’t for gamers but Valve has its own game console that runs on Linux. It’d be pretty stupid if a game console couldn’t run games.

  • MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works
    20·
    9 months ago

    I had a friend about 25 years ago who was very much into Quake Arena. His gaming setup ran on BSD. Now that I’ve been gaming on Linux for several years, I’ve really come to appreciate how much work it must have been to get that setup running smoothly in the late 90s. He died a couple of years ago. I sometimes wish I could call him up and get some advice.

  • Grass@sh.itjust.works
    17·
    9 months ago

    This one didn’t age quite as poorly as some of the others. I have gotten to the point of generally preferring Linux gaming now though. Bsd is still a bit lacking for my general computing but opnsense on my router is one of those ‘where has this been all my life?’ things.

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      4·
      9 months ago

      OpnSense wasn’t quite there yet a few years ago. Now, it’s golden 👍! Don’t know why people still prefer pfSense over OpnSense, it’s so much easier to set up and maintain.

      • Grass@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        9 months ago

        I didn’t try pfsense but it sounded like opnsense suited me better and I have had no reason to change so far. It has also made managing my self host stuff so much easier but a lot of it is pending being redone with more future proofing.

  • deleted@lemmy.world
    91·
    9 months ago

    I knew nothing about linux 2 years ago and started with installing Debian on my surface go 2. This explains why I couldn’t get the web cam to work to this day.

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Try frimware binary blob packages, those usually have whatever to make the thingie work with the Linux kernel.

      • deleted@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 months ago

        I’m not sure what do you mean by firmware blob but Ive done the following:

        1. Added non-free to the sources file.
        2. Installed Surface-linux lib.

        There is a guide in surface-linux library which requires compiling something with CMAKE. I’m not comfortable at the moment to do it since I don’t have the time to fix it if something went wrong.

        I couldn’t find a good touch gui for debian so ill give ubuntu a shot.

        • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          In the non-free repo, there should be something like firmware-broadcom, firmware-amd, firmware-intel, etc. Those are binary blobs, closed source firmware (supplied by the manufacturer) that is loaded in the device in order to make it work with the linux kernel. See the make and model od the device via lspci or lsusb (depends on how the device is connected to the PC) and see the make and model. If it’s, let’s say, Broadcom, install the Broadcom firmware package and restart the rig.

          Regarding cmake, you could use BTRFS to revert everything back to the way it was, just make a restore point before doing make install.