Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer plans to urge state lawmakers to pass legislation that would provide free community college tuition for all high school graduates during her sixth State of the State speech on Wednesday.

Whitmer also prioritized community college access in her annual address last year. State lawmakers responded by temporarily lowering the minimum age for free tuition from 25 to 21 years old. The Democratic governor now wants to expand the program by removing all age requirements for free community college, according to details of her plan provided to The Associated Press by Whitmer’s office.

Whitmer’s administration created the Michigan Reconnect program in 2021, aiming to increase the percentage of the state’s workforce with a postsecondary degree or training from 50.5% to 60% by 2030. It made Michigan residents 25 years and older eligible for free community college tuition.

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    Seems like a great idea to me. Invest in the population and it’ll pay off, long term.

    One of my greatest regrets is dropping out of college. I’m doing ok, thankfully, but it hasn’t been an easy path.

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      You mean requiring a whole population to pay out of pocket for absolutely everything before they can afford it doesn’t lead to growth?

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      One of my greatest regrets is dropping out of college. I’m doing ok, thankfully, but it hasn’t been an easy path.

      This is one of those regrets in life you can actually undo!

      I dropped out of Community College after a year there at age 19. I went back to that same Community College at about 34 and finished my Associates Degree at night/weekends while working full time. One really nice thing was all of my credits earned as a teenager were still valid after almost 14 years away. I meant that my time there as a teenager wasn’t wasted. I transferred all my credits to University again doing school at night/weekends and finished my Bachelors at age 39. It was one of the best decisions of my life.

      Before going back to school I had all kind of anxiety about it. It was much easier as mature adult than as a teenager. I’m happy to share advice or just encouragement if it will help you.

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      Certainly a much better approach than “I love the poorly educated”.

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      As society gets more complex, it’s more important than ever for everyone to be more educated. The death of journalism, rise of online scams, gutting of consumer protections and degeneration of politics makes it more critical for people to learn to think

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    SOCIALIST! REAL Patriots use Tax Dollars to give Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos more money, NOT Educate Kids!

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        Missouri has had the A+ program since before I graduated in 2003, if you graduate high school with a 2.5 GPA (that was barely passing back then, idk what it is now) you got free community college.

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      Definitely cheaper than public/private colleges, but not free. I think my classes came out to ~$1k per semester when I was going to my local community college. It’s still a significant sum for many, but it meant I didn’t need to take out student loans and could pay it off via part time work.

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        It’s a wild comparison. I live in Denmark where you get paid $948 each month for attending college (or any education).

        So I assumed that at least it would be free in the US.

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          Education and medical is outrageously expensive in America. I have had college text books cost $300. For one book.

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          Oh we decided that even the state schools should cost more than most people can afford. I don’t know why.

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            US corporations like workers to have debt etc. This gives them more power over employees.

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    Oooo, I like this. Free Associates Degree and if you want to go on to get a Bachelor’s it now costs 50% less!

    Stick it straight to the for-profit college system.

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    IIRC New Mexico residents actually get free tuition at all state public universities (including 4 years)

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    As a resident in Michigan, this is good news but definitely not something we need to focus on at this point in time.

    The state government needs to focus on the basics and by that I mean clean water. Flint still has a water crisis and many cities like Brenton Harbor as well as northern Michigan towns face the same issues.

    It is possible they can fix the water infrastructure and provide free community college since they do have a large budget surplus.

    https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/news/michigans-2024-budget-will-spend-all-but-3-of-states-9b-surplus

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    School course books are more expensive then community college fee.

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    Because for some reason, in North America we determined that the best way to ensure that your population is educated and ready to be a powerhouse of innovation and productivity is to make the education required to achieve that as expensive and as out of reach as possible.

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      You generally have to graduate high school or complete the GED to be eligible for enrollment in higher education. This has nothing to do with ability, it’s just the minimum for entry

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      I would assume those who could actually reasonably pass.

      Saying that, over here you automatically get uni entrance when you hit 20 so those who grew after high-school aren’t disadvantaged. Have somethings similar would be good.

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        being a high school graduate says zero about intelligence, and just shows you can blindly follow rules

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          If you think college doesn’t also require you to follow blind rules, I’ve got bad news for you. A good chunk of life is the requirement to follow stupid rules. In that way school is a pretty good preparation for life after school.

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            if you think college is like high school, then you didn’t go to college…
            you see no difference between picking your own classes and being programmed to work in a factory?

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              if you think college is like high school, then you didn’t go to college…

              Thats a strawman. I never said college is like high school, I said going to college does not mean you avoid having to follow rules, even silly or stupid ones.

              you see no difference between picking your own classes and being programmed to work in a factory?

              You may not be aware, but in college while you do get to pick a portion of your own classes, for your chosen program of study there are certain required classes that are required or even prerequisite classes you have to take to take the class you want to pick. This is a good example of rules you have to follow.

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          It says you’re smart enough and driven enough to do literally the bare minimum for your own education, and sure, you follow the rules enough to pass.

          But spoilers, that’s what the community colleges want too. Smart enough, driven enough, following instructions enough to pass.

          And spoilers again, that’s what employers want too.

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              The tiny subset of people who dropped from high school, never got their GED, and want to take community college seriously could just… get their GED first? Compared to the time and cost of completing a 2 year degree, obtaining a GED is very small barrier to entry.

              You’re not articulating very well what your issue is.

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                Would you be surprised to hear this guy is a high school dropout who wildly overestimates their own intelligence?

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                  GEDs are high school equivalency credentials. GED test scores are treated the same as high school credits by practically all institutions.

                  I’m not sure why this bill would exclude GED holders since there’s no practical reason to, so I’d assume they are included until we know for sure.

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    Good idea, hope this does not deteriorate the quality of education. Corruption gets very rampant in public education when there isn’t constant and vigilant oversight.

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    I’m usually against free college, but this is actually a really great idea. It makes education available to everyone, without the additional risk of government mismanagement hamstringing our world-class universities in the process.

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        Because I see the state of public school funding in the US, and I think it’s utterly, ludicrously naive to think that our universities will somehow magically avoid the same fate. We live in a world where there’s a very real possibility that Trump is elected again, and the people advocating for free college don’t seem to be able to put two and two together to realize that this would put Trump’s government in complete control of the funding of the universities that he condemns as “liberal brainwashing”.

        The push for all universities to be free in the US is nothing but utopian wishful thinking that ignores the actual state of US politics, and will have disastrous real-world consequences for the already shaky state of education in the US.

        Making community college free seems like a pretty ideal compromise though - everyone gets access to college, and the ability of our universities to take advantage of funding through tuition to ensure that their quality remains among the best in the world is unimpeded.

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          Personally, it doesn’t really matter if it’s Biden or Trump. The US will continue breaking fossil fuel records regardless of who sits in the oval office. We have already triggered climate tipping points that will cascade for centuries, even if we stopped global co2 production tomorrow. I predict collapse before or around 2030.