• harderian729@lemmy.world
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    If you have any faith in the government to address maximizing profit through rent, you haven’t been paying attention to who they serve.

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    Society shouldn’t be set up to keep people renting for their entire lives. It was like 3 generations ago that you could realistically get a home in your 30’s on a single paycheck.

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      Can’t speak for the veracity, but I’ve got two magnets with the following:

      1934

      Average income = $1,601.00
      Loaf of bread = $.08
      Gallon of gas = $.10
      Gallon of milk = $.45

      New car = $625.00
      New house = $5,972.00

      1958

      Average income = $4,650.00
      Loaf of bread = $.19
      Gallon of gas = $.24
      Gallon of milk = $1.01

      New car = $2,155.00
      New house = $11,975.00

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      You still can, you just need to leave major cities.

      Unfortunately, entitlement goes both ways for renters and landlords. They think they’re entitled to maximize profit, you think you’re entitled to live in places you can’t afford.

      Just unchecked greed all around, and the real people who suffer are the ones living in areas “not good enough” for you. But hey, you should get more before them, right?

      Edit to all the downvoters: wake me up when somebody else solves your problems for you. I can wait.

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        i really wish we could mute words on here, because anyone throwing around the word ‘entitled’ definitely has sinister motives at best

        yes, people are ENTITLED to a place to live without being gouged their whole lives.

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          people are ENTITLED to a place to live without being gouged their whole lives.

          And these people have options to avoid that. The problem is, they refuse to take them because they feel they are entitled to live in places they can barely afford.

          Why do you people always replace arguments with your own misunderstandings as though you have a point? I think it’s because you spend too much time on these forums and lose touch with what makes an effective argument.

          Here, all that matters is that people agree with you. Being correct or logical is irrelevant.

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            They refuse to take those options because it would involve the massive hassle and expense of moving to a place where they are not from, do not know anybody, do not like, and which has terrible public services.

            Wanting to live a good life is not entitled.

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              Wanting to live a good life is not entitled.

              Yes, but why should these people get more before others who have less? Especially if they can’t afford it.

              That is textbook entitlement and you don’t understand language if you cannot acknowledge that.

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        “Places you can’t afford”, like teachers and nurses wanting to live in the same county as their place of employment?

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          You can do that outside of major cities.

          You should get more life experience before thinking you have a point.

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            You could, and then we just let the people in cities be dumb and not have healthcare? Or we segregate the rich people into the cities and poor into the rest of the world?

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              Holy crap, I’m not even going indulge that.

              Just keep believing what you want and living in your fantasy world. You have no shortage of losers willing to join you.

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        Sorry homie the cities have the jobs. People need to be able to afford to live near where they work for our economy to function well. They need to be able to buy stuff to support other jobs nearby. It’s a virtuous cycle when it works, but housing costs sap that money away.

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            Poorly? With already earned money?

            Small towns are even worse to start out in because the job situation is terrible compared to cities. People in history have never had to “commute” longer than 30 minutes, unless they were traders literally moving goods from one place to another.

            Small towns are dying unless more companies move to WFH.

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              Really? Everyone outside a major city is living poorly or with already earned money?

              Seems like you need more life experience.

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                It depends on what you consider a city, but yes rural areas and small towns are shrinking in population. Only those who already have money can afford to live there because they don’t need to earn money in the local economy.

                It sounds like you need more life experience. The hollowing out of rural economies has been happening since the 1980s.

                Metropolitan areas consist of those counties with central cities of at least 50,000, along with the surrounding counties that are economically dependent on them. They make up 36% of all counties. Between 2008, the cusp of the Great Recession, and 2017, they enjoyed nearly 99% of all job and population growth.

                Nationally, 71% of all metropolitan counties grew between 2008 and 2017, but more than half of the remaining micropolitan and rural counties did not grow or shrank in population.

                https://theconversation.com/most-of-americas-rural-areas-are-doomed-to-decline-115343

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                  Only those who already have money can afford to live there because they don’t need to earn money in the local economy.

                  That’s crazy. The only people who can afford to live in poor areas are those who already have money?

                  How are these areas poor if they’re only inhabited by people with excess wealth?

                  Do you see how illogical your arguments are? This is why you don’t have a point. Just stop and think for a minute. Stop trying to look good in front of other children and ask yourself, “does this make sense?”

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        They think they’re entitled to maximize profit, you think you’re entitled to live…

        See, this is what’s called a false dichotomy, and this glaring failure in your argument is why you’re downvoted. (At least that’s why i did).

        I do. I think I’m entitled to live. Yes i cut off the part where you said “where you can’t afford” because someone besides you and me (yes, you, you aren’t a capitalist, you are a wage slave just like me mayne) controls that, don’t they?

        Housing is a human right, and even if you don’t believe that, it sure is a requirement for a person to work and live. Without shelter in these expensive places you describe, no one can do the labor required for the local economy in these places to thrive.

        So you have an answer for this? Frankly, i don’t expect much, but id like to be surprised. Can you defend adding “where you can’t afford” as anything other than words making your inhumane statement more palatable?

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          Yes i cut off the part where you said “where you can’t afford” because someone besides you and me (yes, you, you aren’t a capitalist, you are a wage slave just like me mayne) controls that, don’t they?

          Yes, supply and demand. You are part of that system, whether you want to admit it or not.

          You are part of those with more wealth thinking they deserve even more before others who have less. This is why you think you’re entitled to handouts so you can live in major cities before those who live in places “not good enough for you.”

          So you have an answer for this?

          No joke, you will never admit your contribution to the problem. You are simply incapable of it and I’ve come across many people like you before. You will completely ignore logic and reason to blame anyone but yourself for your problems that you refuse to fix.

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            No joke, you will never admit your contribution to the problem. You are simply incapable of it and I’ve come across many…

            Mmmmm that’s good stuff. Yea! Yeah! Talk down to me baby!

            But I asked your to defend a specific statement and you just repeated your ad hominems from your other replies. Are you gonna engage with me or should i expect another copy pasta ya picked up from the boob tube?

            I know you won’t respond to my question this time either, so Please hit me with a new ad hominem, make it something i haven’t seen? I would have you try harder

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              Yeah, I don’t care what you “asked.” I’m not going down your stupid rabbit holes or adhering to your ultimatums.

              Lol.

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        Wanting to live where there are jobs, grocery stores, and health care facilities within a reasonable distance is not entitlement.

        Or maybe they can’t afford your suggestion. Do you have any idea how much it costs to move across the US? I’ve done it a few times and I can assure you that it’s not cheap.

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          Right. There are no jobs, grocery stores, or health care facilities outside of major cities.

          This is why you need more life experience. It’s painfully obvious you lived in a major city all your life and think life in major cities is all that matters.