How is this even possible in 2024? I realize Rochester isn’t exactly a major metropolis, but we’re in the middle of town! It’s not like they’re relying on Hughesnet or something.
Also, it’s not that they’re cheaping out on us either. The owners live upstairs. This is a duplex.
Hope you enjoy reading these comments in 3-5 days
So you spent your whole vacation uploading this picture???
Thankfully slightly faster than that. Also, unfortunately, not a vacation.
I wish you well. My wife’s trip to Rochester was worth it, and my pop had brain surgery there that went really well. I hope things turn out well for you.
Thank you. I’m hoping this won’t require brain surgery though! (It won’t.)
I’ve been wondering how you’re doing - any answers so far?
Just got here yesterday. My first appointment is this morning.
Ah - well good luck, Lemmy’s rooting for ya!
Thanks! I’m rooting for me too because I have no idea what I’m going to do if this doesn’t work out. I’m trying to remain optimistic and hopeful though… not easy because I’m a natural pessimist and cynic.
You’re in the wrong Rochester!
I am so jealous. Those assholes will not run it to my apartment. Landlord tried. The entire neighborhood behind and next to us has it. I am just done and fed up with Spectrum. Maybe I should call and bitch.
Come to rural Canada. Our internet is slower, but at least it’s three times more expensive.
You got that going for you, which is nice.
They also have to deal with Wendigos. Not sure if slow internet or a horror beyond human imagine is scarier
Or it’s better and even more expensive… With starlink.
Not anymore though. 10 years ago, sure, but now you’re forced to either bundle it with phone and cable for a reasonable price(for internet, you’re still buying 2 other things you might not need) or buy the minimum of 60mbps at a premium. And this is in a town of 500 people half an hour away from the nearest city. 15 years ago there was straight up no internet there.
I just saw the “radio link internet” there
If your internet is beamed in over some radio signal somewhere then yeah, I get why it’s so shitty. Wait until it starts raining!
They do that in my rural area with ham radios on each end.
It’d be faster to mail the TCP packets via USPS
Or carrier pigeon.
I have 250Mbit/s in a really old building within a small to medium size town in Germany
one of local Ukrainian isps offered to run fiber (symmetrical 100) to the middle of nowhere. like literally, the nearest store is a couple if kilometers away, it’s the last building along a road literally surrounded by a huge field, in a village with like 10 people still living in it.
(i don’t need constant internet connection there tho as I’m only there occasionally, 4g is more than enough)
Here, too, in just a few weeks (at the moment I still have the 100mbit contract). And we are more or less out in the country, the next field is maybe 50m from our doorstep.
here in sweden you generally can’t even get anything lower than 100mbps
My solution to crappy internet while traveling (not a solution to the present moment):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09N72FMH5
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XXBQPZLMy phone provider (GoogleFi) allows you to get a free data-only SIM for your account. I put that into the ZTE USB dongle thing, and plug that into the mini router. That router can be powered by a USB battery bank, or your phone’s USB-C charger, or a wall plug. It then gives you your own OpenWRT router you can use wirelessly, or via a CAT-5. I have unlimited data, so I don’t get charged extra. I have the router setup with Wireguard into my house as well, so I can get adblocking through the router as well. It’s all very compact/portable. I just used it on a road trip, plugged into my car’s USB port, and my son streamed Netflix on his tablet.
I have also used that USB dongle directly into my Linux laptop, and it was plug-and-play as well (bypassing the need for the router).
edit: basically it’s an over-engineered dedicated hotspot, but I’m a geek and like to over-do things
They have the Spitz out now. I live rural and actually have this as my whole home modem.
I have a pfsense modem between it and my network for routing/vlan but its great! I have the modem paired with the waveform antenna on a 40ft tower. I love that it tells me connection speed to the tower similar to how your WiFi network adapter will tell you the speed between it and the WiFi access point. It will say like 200M. So I know I can get up to 200M but because of prioritization+usage on the tower my actual speeds are 80mbps during Netflix hours but closer to 200m when I first wake up.
Tldr: glinet makes some solid hardware and software. (I know openwrt did most of the heavy lifting. But its well polished. )
My office is at about 1 mbs with RTO. I feel your pain friend
Ouch. I am sorry.
How bad is this to use? 5 Mbps isn’t awful to use but that ping concerns me, high pings in my experience are worse than slow speeds in a lot of cases (gaming, browsing, chat etc.)
The upload is likely more of an issue. I was stuck with an annoying ASDL setup for a while. Download wasn’t bad, but upload was extremely low. It also had no form of traffic shaping. As soon as one of our phones decided to back up our photos, the TCP return packets started getting lagged out. Basically webpages wouldn’t load/timeout while anything was trying to upload.
Long pings are annoying. Insufficient upload can break a lot of ‘modern’ websites.
A ping of 100+ is slightly noticable (not counting gaming here), 200+ is very noticeable, 500+ becomes close to very annoying / unworkable for most cases. A 600 ping will be hard to even load pages. Streaming might might work, but a high ping like that usually comes with a high packet loss too, so I wouldn’t hold my breath for Netflix even…
Crazily bad. Like even Lemmy.world takes a good 5 seconds to refresh.
Ya. Most vacation rentals will have Internet like this. They don’t want you pirating or downloading potentially illegal materials.
It’s enough to watch Netflix and Google shit and that’s about it.
Your average landlord isn’t going to even be thinking or caring about “piracy”. They only care about their bottom line.
Is that enough to watch Netflix? I didn’t bother trying.
I dunno, 3 megabits works out to about 0.375 megabytes per second. So its slow.
That seems like a limiter has been applied. Probably on the router. I dont think there are internet providers out there still offering adsl speeds like this. You would need around 5Mbps to watch HD on netflix.
Might be worth finding the actual router and getting the log in details from the sticker on the bottom/back and logging in to see if you can disable it.
If someone is savvy enough to have done this, surely they would have changed the password as well? Worth a shot tho, I suppose!
I guess if you werent savvy enough to do it you could follow a guide. My dad does alot of tech stuff by following guides but if it ever goes wrong he cant fix it becaise he doesnt know what he did, he just follows the steps.
I have to fix it instead.
I’m tethering to my phone. Thankfully, I have an unlimited data plan. Tethering gives me about 60 mbps, which is still slower than I’m used to but at least I can do things like watch YouTube videos.
Sometimes they’ll give you unlimited data but still limit your hotspot, so watch for that.
I do not believe that is the case with our plan, but thanks.
Edit: Come to think of it, I know it isn’t because my daughter has had to do her online school video lessons via tethering when the power has gone out.
Hmm. Would that get you in trouble with AirBnB? I guess it’s possible they wouldn’t notice if you put it back, but it’s a risk.
I know one of the ISPs in my area still runs ADSL as their only option for this town, but I never bothered asking what the speeds were.
Might be worth finding the actual router and getting the log in details from the sticker on the bottom/back and logging in to see if you can disable it.
Alternatively, plug in your own router. Probably a last resort plan, though.
Sometimes it is. Depends on what Netflix is doing. But you’re right, I usually just use my own hotspot when traveling.
Yeah, video is heavy, so that’s kind of surprising if so. I guess I can kind of stream a video over Tor, which is testing at 2 down right now, although usually only in low resolution.
Compression is amazing.
That’s what you get for going to America’s second best Rochester.
That being said, people don’t normally go there for good reasons. Hope you’re healthy
I am not, I am sorry to say. It’s a very long story which I’ve retold way too many times on Lemmy. Let’s just say that I have no idea what I’ll do if this doesn’t work out.
Sorry to hear that dude. I work in healthcare, so feel free to DM me if I can ever help (not clinical, so don’t ask for medical advice lol, but navigating the system or anything like that)
I appreciate it, thanks. I just posted some good news on that front!
That all sounds rough, but I’m glad you’ve had some progress! My mom has TN and has really valued going to a regular support group, FWIW.
No support group like that in my town as far as I know. Also, I’m a major TN outlier. Technically it’s ATN- the A standing for atypical. Aside from some unusual symptoms, I’m also much younger than the average person who gets it- I’m in my mid-40s and most people get it when they’re over 70- I’m also male and women get it much more often. Oddly enough, my father also had it, but in his 70s as is more normal. It also just went away for him after a while thankfully. Not for me though.
if the listing advertised “high-speed internet” or anything with the wording “high-speed”, then i’d call AirBNB and complain until i either got a partial refund or a rebooking elsewhere. Rate 1-star and post as many complaints as possible on as many social media outlets as possible with the full name of the AirBnB host. Name and Shame.
Basically, be as big a nightmare as possible (without getting kicked out) until either it gets fixed or until you get enough money back to make you feel better.
edit:
The owners live upstairs.
i wouldn’t let them sleep a wink until that’s 50Mb/s+ both up and down. should be at least 100Mb/s, but 50Mb/s is manageable.
They’re fucking you while on vacation, and i would make their live a LIVING HELL. being cheap has consequences…
I’m here with my mother (also mildly infuriating) who chose it and is paying for it, so I’ll have to talk to her about it, thanks.
i don’t see how that changes anything. in fact, i might be more outraged, as they’re taking advantage of your poor, sweet, elderly mother, which is exactly how you should put it in every single complaint call, email, and social media post.
It doesn’t change anything. I just never saw the listing, which is why I had to talk to her about it.
That makes sense.
50 up is pretty much the max I’ve seen most plans. Most ISPs just don’t allocate Jack for it.
Who hurt you?
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Re you’re edit: I’m not here on vacation, I’m here to go to the Mayo clinic. But they close up at 3, so it would be nice to come back to decent wifi. Thankfully, I realized I can just use my phone as a hotspot. The only problem is my iPhone and my Mint Linux notebook won’t play nice, so I have to tether one to the other via USB to get it to work rather than via the WiFi connection. No idea why, but it won’t get to the authentication part when I connect to the WiFi. But that’s better than what I had before.
to me, that makes it even more egregious. i’d send them a bill for your data plan, and i’d also browbeat them for putting someone critically ill, who is visiting the mayo clinic, until they got the issue fixed immediately.
some people think they can take advantage of people like you and your mother, and i’d make sure they never did that again, not to anyone, ever.
i’d get on the phone with AirBnB and be such a unimaginable nightmare, that they’d do anything just to shut me up.
i’ve been extremely successful at this.
edit: i once had a similar issue at a crappy hotel with bad internet service. i called their corporate office and threatened a federal lawsuit and had a lawyer buddy of mine throw some legalese at them (an obvious bluff). had them shook. 5 minutes later, the “we can’t do anything” magically turned into “oh, we fixed the problem” and my internet speed was magically fixed.
sometimes, you just havae to out-asshole the asshoels to get what you paid for.
Thankfully, I have unlimited data, so it’s not a cost issue. Just a bit irritating that I had to resort to this.
Also, I really don’t think they’re trying to take advantage of us. Someone else said that this is some rural ISP that for some reason people in much of Rochester use.
well, that’s why i mentioned the listing, and whether it advertised “high-speed” internet. if it didn’t, this whole thing might be moot.
you’ll be fine. I played WoW in the early 2000s with these Internet speeds.
Perhaps they could be using a VLan?
