• whereisk@lemmy.world
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    He had knowledge and connections to the upper echelons and he couldn’t make it, and when health concerns arose he went back to his money because it sucks to be working poor and in need of medical assistance.

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      He also didn’t have the stress that would come from actual failure with no money.

      Bankruptcy, homelessness and real poverty fuck up your ability to succeed in a vastly underrated way.

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        Exactly. The calculus for taking risks is vastly different when there’s a safety net. You can treat it as a game and go all in.

        On the other hand if there’s even a small chance of losing housing or getting in legal trouble or your family being destitute you take no risks - if you are a person with a sense of responsibility that is.

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        His father got cancer during the experiment. He considered ending it then, but he continued with the experiment.

        Imagine having that sort of choice. He didn’t have to skip work to take his dad to appointments. He didn’t have to eat ramen to afford chemo. It was only when his own health was at risk that he pulled the plug.

        Imagine a world where everybody had that sort of safety net. Just like, “Nope, shit’s too hard.”

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        For most people, it’s easier to become homeless than it is for the homeless to extricate themselves from it.

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          This is all political horseshit. It’s not that hard to get out of homelessness, I was homeless a lot in my late teens and early twenties. Of course freezing to death in a Canadian winter is a strong motivator. Fucking taking a shower and doing work that you’d rather not is all it takes if you’re not mentally fucked or strung out

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            As someone who was homeless for 2 ½ years in Los Angeles, I disagree with you.

            And despite my efforts to get a new job after being laid off, I’m about to be back on the streets. So maybe, right now, I don’t wanna hear it.

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              Oh look. Exactly who I’m talking about showed up. You’re not willing to do what it takes, you’d rather be homeless in LA than working in Oxnard

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                You have a twisted sense of what “rather” means. I can’t get to fucking Oxnard, I have no car.

                I’m spending what little money I have to store what little possessions I have, to get a mailbox, and a gym membership. Because you need an address, and a place to clean up, and a place to change clothes…or just vibe for a little before going back and dealing with the bullshit of homelessness.

                How much is it gonna cost to move to Oxnard without established housing? What employer is going to provide me with immediate housing? How far is the housing from the employer? How good is the transit? If bad, is the money from the employer sufficient to get a car in the area? Are the cars reasonably priced?

                Also, what’s the work? I have multiple injuries that prevent me from doing certain work. I’m older and overweight (largely due to those injuries), so my options are limited. I have mental health issues that need regular maintenance, how’s the emperor’s healthcare package, or do they pay enough to get my own insurance?

                Unless you can guarantee me a residence for free, you might wanna start looking at the nuances of why someone is homeless in the first place.

                I’m more than willing to move to a new location, but moving isn’t cheap, even with a few boxes of necessities, it can be a massive hassle.

                So maybe instead of judging me or anyone else, start providing concrete fucking answers, instead of vague bullshit that strokes your ego.

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                  Yeah, but answers are hard, much easier to be a judgemental prick. (And people like that call people like us lazy…)

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        Even the stress of worrying about money. Yeah you can take out a loan for your risky business venture when you know you won’t have to worry about paying it back. Yeah, you can couch surf for a while when you aren’t staring down the next few decades of your life.

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      Right, those 62k he did earn would have been gone and him probably homeless as soon as his health issues got worse. It’s a reality for a lot of Americans. Also those 62k he earned were thanks to all the education and experience he was able to get thanks to his privilege. Most people aren’t fortunate enough to have his level of education and experience to help them even get to 62k. I make 25 percent less than that and still feel fortunate of where I got to since I came from absolutely nothing.