meanwhile, cops also say “oops pardon the intrusion mr white man assassin, please carry on” and climb back down the ladder
The only thing that can stop a bad guy (read: minority) with a gun is a good guy (read: straight white male) with a gun.
Is this a Hip Hop Hood reference?
Edit: It just occurred to me that we are living in a stupid 90s comedy.
This a “first trump assassination attempt of 2024” reference
first
Don’t get my hopes up like that
Thanks for noticing :D
No deputies were injured, the sheriff’s office said.
Cowards with guns and itchy trigger fingers. Watching bodycam videos on YT, it’s incredible how risk-averse they are. It makes the inaction at Uvalde clearer.
The Uvalde cops saved lives. Imagine how many kids they would have shot if they had entered the school.
I would say all of them, but I imagine their marksmanship is terrible.
I watched one the other day where a black soldier in uniform was pulled over at night so he pulled into a gas station instead of stopping on the side of the dark road and the cops who pulled him over were super aggro about it and from the jump were pointing guns and yelling at him to get out of the vehicle. He put his hands out the window and was asking them what was going on and all they would do was continue screaming at him to do what they say and get out. One of the cops eventually walked all the way up to his window and pepper sprayed him. I think they cops got in trouble for it afterwards but it was so stupid. All they had to do was talk to the dude.
I believe I’ve seen it and the soldier filed a lawsuit.
The best part is, is that pretty much every police department says to…if you get pulled over, to acknowledge the officer, and pull over where its safe, and to drive at low speed, to the nearest illuminated area.
and the second you do exactly that, the swat team is deployed and, if you manage to fucking survive, you end up on the ER with chemical burns at best, broken bones or gunshot at worst.
Following orders is not a guarantee to prevent being murdered, just look at Daniel Shaver.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Grossman_(author)
The cops have classes that teach them to murder first because protect and serve is bullshit.
There are several of these “classes” that PD pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to train cops to be fascist fuck machines.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-trainer-best-sex-killing/
Historically, all the force, money, and power the cops abuse are why the Templar Knights were eventually tried and burned at the stake for sex crimes, theft, and satanism. Same shit; different century.
Oddly enough the Knights were tortured to death for their hypocritically evil sexually perverse behavior. I don’t see that happened to these pigs any time soon though. But they will torture and murder you for doing nothing but having a bad day.
if they acted on the uvalde shooting the number of casualties would have probably tripled.
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That is what corrupts you.
“It is extremely hard to imagine how a woman who calls the police out of fear of an intruder ends up shot in the head by police at her own home,”
No, no it’s not. Especially for certain skin tones.
Was she black? i assume she was black.
While not a guarantee, it does increase probability.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Justine_Damond?wprov=sfla1
Looking at the picture of the protesters and her grieving mother, it does seem quite possible.
When she had one problem, then she got herself a fatal one.
Society is so accepting of this, nothing will be done. This is just a part of living the American Dream.
“shoot when scared” has been a terrible police policy
Its amazing how the police can be terrified hyper-reactionary cowards, and can use that as justification for murder.
but the bog standard citizenry have to be upright, with 100% control over every single muscle in their body and thought in their head, while showing the more discipline than the most seasoned military official during an inspection, without a single ounce of fear, hesitation, or doubt, Or else we get brutalized and/or shot.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
how you dare to interrupt my midnight meal
That goes to show you what not to do. I much rather call a friend…we catch the guy, give him some sleeping medication…we drive him to the desert… Maybe we make a little incision and plant a gps locator. If he decides to come back, you take drastic measures. Nothing bad, just more sleeping pills and a big box return to sender to China or Australia.
Never call the police unless you want your name on some dirt that will be used against you.
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How is this not fascism? Just because their violence is directed mostly towards minorities?
Why in our news cycle do we need to rage before there is any significant information about a story, then wait for the information, then either rage some more… or possibly never hear anything again. I absolutely get it. You call the cops, you get shot, that is highly unexpected- to say the least. Maybe.
Perhaps the officer had her dead-to-rights and decided to pull the trigger. Perhaps she jumped out from behind a corner saying, “OH THANK GO…!”. Perhaps she thought the cop was the intruder and came after him with a bat, etc., etc., etc. The point is WE DON’T KNOW anything from this article.
Yet, we are all supposed to sit in the edge of our seats waiting for such information. I HATE it.
This article has no information other than,“Something really unexpected happened, more at 11!”
So, why aren’t we allowed to wait until there is actual information before we pick up news? Or before we post it to lemmy to upvote, invent narratives, and rage away while we wait for important details?
We need to rage because far too often it’s the cops murdering people who called for help … no maybe about it.
Then let’s wait until we find out that’s what happened?
She was shot in the head. There is a fair chance it was through a window because cops don’t aim for the head unless it is the only thing visible.
While there is still a lot of info to come out, there is also a fair chance the cop didn’t know who he was shooting at and murdered the victim by mistake … because cops are trained to shoot first and ask forgiveness later.
That she was shot in the head is in the article btw.
Maybe cops shouldn’t just shoot people at first sight, just because they think it’s a suspect.
Use of deadly force should require caution.Maybe cops shouldn’t just shoot people at first sight, just because they think it’s a suspect.
Maybe you shouldn’t make up facts that haven’t been reported.
Pretty sure she got shot by the cops.
Perhaps the officer had her dead-to-rights and decided to pull the trigger. Perhaps she jumped out from behind a corner saying, “OH THANK GO…!”. Perhaps she thought the cop was the intruder and came after him with a bat, etc., etc., etc
None of these scenarios should end with a bullet in her head, are you crazy?
The first two no. Which is exactly why I added them. Are you crazy? The last, who knows. Very likely not. But have you ever been hit in the head with a bat, or do you just like to sit on the couch and pretend what you would do if you were?
In any event, actual news about this event has since been reported. You can stop pretending you knew what happened and rage at what did happen.
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So many of these stories are months or even years after the fact because unless the media gets on it, the incident gets buried immediately, and by the time the media gets ahold of it any investigation is challenging because it’s either so long after the fact or police “lost” evidence.
It being reported immediately starts the accountability and makes it much more likely that there will be an investigation in the first place. Either you are too young to remember or just weren’t noticing, but reports of police killing unarmed minorities was exceptionally rare a few decades ago. Cops got away with anything and everything. That’s where Black Lives Matter came from, getting the mainstream media (and the justice department) to care when a black person gets killed.
As I’ve said already, I’m not opposed in the least to the immediate reporting. I’m opposed to the assumptions made based on that limited reporting.
Women: Calls Cops for Help. Cops: Murder Women. You: We need to give the cops the Benefit of the Doubt!
Cops: Murder Women.
See? You just made that up. Please tell me where in this article that is explained.
You GOT me! She wasn’t Murdered! She was just Shot In The Head with a Gun for No Reason and Died for Unrelated Reasons! Ah Shucks! You’re a Smart One!
You, figuratively:
“What if she deserved to be shot in the head?”
You, literally:
“I didn’t verbatim say that! So you’re wrong! Checkmate!”
Go find some rope, holy shit.
Lol, it didn’t say ANYTHING. Which is what I actually said. No “verbatim” about it, dumbass.
Look at this guy “trusting the process”
He must be living on a different time line then the rest of us where pigs are the good guys lol
Oh- did I say I trusted the process? Please point that out, because I can’t find it.
Well you highlighted there is a chance police dindu nuffin since people who control info didnt release it. These people also release such info when pig is in the clear, delay generally means they are working up a cover up based on prior precedent.
You trust these clowns yourself, clearly gen pop over “trust me bro”
Again, making shit up. Where did I say I trusted anyone?
Clearly everyone read your post like that… You tell me why people would feel that way from what you said haha
JFC…
Because everyone of you jumped on this article exactly as I explained. With rage. If you knew anything about psychology, you would know that is an entirely expected outcome to hearing what you don’t want to in that moment.
Frankly, I don’t give a shit, but I knew the same people who would jump to conclusions about what harkened in that house before any actual facts have been reported, would do EXACTLY the same with my post.
Cool… Bye
I don’t care if this woman pulled a Eustace and went “Ooga Booga Booga,” mask and all. A officer’s default reaction should not be “shoot in the head.” And they’re not releasing the footage, which they would happily do of they believed it was in their favor.
Even if she came out with a bat/knife, they didn’t try to hit anything else? Leg, arm, shoulder, nothing? Neither officer had injuries, so who was shooting at them? Clearly it wasn’t this woman, but the article says they reported shots fired. Did they even get the intruder? I’m not going to say that every case is the same, but I’ve seen plenty of standoff videos where cops plead with people to drop the weapon, give multiple warnings, etc., and STILL don’t shoot to kill.
There have been many, many cases of officers shooting first and asking questions later. And they usually just get a paid vacation. We will continue to rage until they understand that this is not okay, and that being an officer doesn’t give you carte blanche to shoot people when you get startled. If you can’t handle that, you shouldn’t be a officer
Signed, Someone who shouldn’t be an officer because I also startle easy
Even if she came out with a bat/knife, they didn’t try to hit anything else? Leg, arm, shoulder, nothing?
Aiming for center of mass is a pretty universal bit of firearm training. Doesn’t excuse their reaction, but it is what you should be doing if you’re gonna fire on someone. Going for legs or arms or a headshot means you’re more likely to miss.
Even civilian concealed carry training has some hands-on courses to teach why it is trained this way. You’re also taught, “only draw your weapon if you have intent to kill,” which is sobering in and of itself.
This leads to the bigger question: why does US cop training paint every scenario as “time to pull out the hammer, I see a nail!”? That’s fundamentally wrong at its very core. “Oh, shit, an acorn! blam! blam! blam!”
It seems the very antithesis of the US legal tenet “innocent until proven guilty” as one can’t be innocent nor proven guilty if they’re already dead.
Yeah, the issue isn’t that the cops didn’t shoot an arm or a leg, but that they shot at all. There’s the whole “Be sure of your target and what’s behind it” that they didn’t seem to learn.
another reason I shouldn’t be a copThank you for the info. I didn’t realize about the center mass part. Always good to get new info 👍🏾
https://apnews.com/article/illinois-sheriffs-deputy-charged-cf164189d678f921deff05fa3789d3a2
Enough details for you to be upset now, or do you think the pot of water possibly had a gun?
Nope, that’s exactly the level of detail people should have been waiting for.
