• simple@lemm.ee
    976·
    3 months ago

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux-

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      451·
      3 months ago

      That’s the problem, though: a lot of it isn’t GNU, specifically because GNU stuff is GPLv3 and would thus stop the smart TV and IoT device makers from Tivoizing everything all to Hell. Most of that stuff is running bastardized Linux, not GNU/Linux!

        • davel [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          Off the top of my head:

          • Android and its derivatives, and other distributions based on ToyBox (if any exist, I don’t know)
          • Alpine and other distributions based on BusyBox
          • Chimera
    • silkroadtraveler@lemmy.todayEnglish
      14·
      3 months ago

      A name is just a simple reference to a system composed of interrelated and essential OS components: Kernel, windowing system, networking tools, virtual memory, user interfaces, the list goes on…

      Yes GNU is an essential suite of tools but so is X (or Wayland) and many other unnamed yet critical subsystems.

      Now GPL licensing on the other hand, THAT is a foundational precept to FOSS that deserves sole credit back to a single project.

      • JATth@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 months ago

        The NT kernel in isolation is apparently quite “ok”, from what i have heard of it. It’s the spyware, malware, driver crap (“windows”) running on/using it which is unquestionably totally fucked and disgusting. If they were to FOSS the NT kernel, I could maybe support an such endeavor.

  • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
    692·
    3 months ago

    I was talking to my dad about my job and how people don’t know how to use Linux. He said “Yeah, nobody uses that UNIX stuff anymore.”

    Then I pointed out that his phone and his computer both run flavors of UNIX, since he’s been using Apple products since I made him switch by not supporting his issues with Windows, and that most of the websites and apps he’s using are running Linux on the backend.

    • uis@lemm.ee
      132·
      3 months ago

      Well, he is correct. Linux is not UNIX. It is UNIX-like system. And Android is abomination.

          • candybrie@lemmy.world
            8·
            3 months ago

            I looked it up. macOS is still unix certified.

            BSD is usually not unix certified, so has to refer to itself as unix like.

            What is and isn’t unix is kind of up to what definition you’re working with (pedigree, legally, practically).

          • bluewing@lemm.ee
            1·
            3 months ago

            Ahhh, I remember my days of wearing the sackcloth and ashes of Slack. I would go back to that purity. But I’m now old and far too lazy.

            • superkret@feddit.org
              1·
              3 months ago

              Since Flatpaks are a thing now, it’s almost like one of those newfangled immutable distros:

              • Do a default full install, so you have the same system the devs use for testing.
              • Install flatpak.
              • Install all your apps as flatpaks.
              • Never worry about dependencies or package management in general ever again.
              • bluewing@lemm.ee
                2·
                3 months ago

                I’m running Fedora 40 Atomic Budgie on a little micro desktop for fun right now. IMO, it’s not quite ready for prime time just yet. I do appreciate the simple ability to roll back at boot if something does go wrong. I’ve done it once after an update and it was nice. The next day a new update was pushed to fix the error in the update and on I went on my merry way.

                On the other hand, there is a general sluggishness and a feeling of malaise to the system as time goes on. It’s not a show stopper. But it does not spark joy either. Budgie ran a whole lot faster and smoother as a “standard” install. And I’m not installing a lot of extra software and they are all installed as Flatpaks or I have 3 pieces installed as appImages. So it’s all just updates.

                The real test will come when Fedora shifts from 40 to 41 and I upgrade the distro. Will it be as “immutable” as they brag about.

          • Johanno@feddit.org
            1·
            3 months ago

            Pfff the distro itself isn’t affected by the drama really. The community is. However in a few years nobody will remember really. Maybe the forks are still around then.

            • Sethayy@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              3 months ago

              Yeah but the anti-woke type are hardly ever too mentally stable, so who knows when the ‘saving our Christian distro from the sinners’ update will drop.

              That or the old devs never come back and the new ones ride it right into the shitter, either way its definitely uncertain times when you lose most of your main devs

  • unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org
    15·
    3 months ago

    I am constantly amused about how “next year” has been “the year of Linux on the desktop” for 20+ years. Meanwhile, Linux & BSD have pretty much completely taken over the whole world except the desktop in that same time.

    • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      Actual desktops are going the way of the dodo for the mass market and Linux netbooks are quite popular. With Microsoft’s current strategy of making a product that is worse and worse for low powered devices, I honestly think it’ll happen sooner, except for businesses.