Are the people who wore “grab them by the pussy” and “I’m voting for the felon” t shirts suddenly offended by slogans?
Caitlin johnstone is a leftist not a republican
This comment section is confusing me immensely
This post was made by King right after Kamala did a rally in Michigan and used that phrase to trash some Anti-Genocide Pro-Palistine protesters who she first said that “OK I’m Speaking” and then told them to keep it up if they wanted Trump to win. This is after she had had met with muslim leaders and protest leaders and was giving them the run around.
Caitlin Johnstone who is famous for hosting Democracy Now and has been covering the genocide in depth, saw Steven King post this and thought, as many other people did, that it was referring to what she did to the protesters . Then people in the know started to inform us that it was in reference to something she said during the Presidential Debate 4 years ago. Something that her team should take into account and do away with that merch for a while.
She personally met with those protesters before the rally, then when they later interrupted the rally, she let them have their moment, then when they wouldn’t shut up, that’s when she said that. Those particular protesters had no intention of having any kind of discussion, and it’s quite telling that they only come to Democratic events instead of Republican ones, who are MUCH more hawkish and pro-Israel than Dems and whom a protest against might be more effective, if they actually cared about Palestinians
To be fair they protest Democrats because they have a history of at least listening. The Republicans, not so much.
If they went to the Republican rallies, the Republicans would violently attack them. Trump has repeatedly and explicitly told them to do so. I can’t blame them for not protesting where they know it would land them in the hospital, or worse.
So if the democrats violently attacked them they wouldn’t protest?
Interesting, nuanced even.
Willing to put the lives of marginalized people in danger with a trump presidency but if their physical well being is threated, genocide away.
So, here’s the real reason they don’t show to trump rallies. They are under the impression they can influence the Harris campaign into supporting policy that will strong arm Isreal into ending the Palestinian genocide. Is it far fetched? Possibly, but they are desperate.
Unfortunately, we are all pretty desperate right now. So, the whole weighing human suffering thing is kind of… deaf ears and all that…
If Harris and Biden were explicitly telling their supporters to attack protesters, I know I would stop protesting at their events. I dunno about these particular protesters, but I would imagine that sort of hateful rhetoric would certainly have a cooling effect on any hypothetical protests in such a scenario.
Well, there’s one of two protests I would attend. And no not because I secretly would like to punch a red hat. I’m pretty open about that.
I personally have to be extremely cautious when protesting. I have a record, and I’m certain that it would be used against me. DUI is the worst thing, but there’s also some weed distribution charges as well. I’m sure they would use that to trump up resisting arrest, or assaulting an officer, if I attended any of the protests where they intend to get arrested.
Possibly, but they are desperate.
im not sure if its desperation, i think it’s that they’re all just single issue voters, they have literally nothing else in life that they care about.
I feel like if they were desperate they would probably run disinfo farms or like, fight in the conflict. But what do i know.
Many were Palestinians who had lost swaths of their family to Genocide, but you don’t care about that… oh I though we were both making assumptions based on personal opinion.
imagine being Palestinian right now.
having a long and continued squabble over who owns that land that israel sits upon, both israel and palestine being the same fucking thing biblically.
Britain shows up, goes “fucking lol, this shits mine now losers” and then shits out israel, nearly a century of war goes by, neither side ceding literally anything to the other, except for Palestine because they’re bad at fighting against a well supported and funded military, i wonder why. And then continuing to engage in that conflict until quite literally nothing is left of you as a state or nation.
and so you show up to america, for whatever reason, you’ve probably lived there most if not all of your life, you see this shit happening, and the US supporting israel, and your first thought is, “surely harassing politicans will fix the problem” or even “man surely if i just call the public genociding nazis, they’ll finally stop killing my people”
like my brother in christ, go vote.
For which politician. The ones that AIPAC has either bought off or scared that they will spend endless money against any position you run for on your competitor at the slightest move that they do not approve of. The Scary Orange Man who will make things worse or the party of the Scary White Man who is literally funding the genocide of your people, the third party candidates which will get you attacked from both sides, or choose not to vote at all for a protest.
And if you look they say “They won’t vote for Genocide” not “They won’t vote for Kamala if she changes her position on Israel and its lunatic right wing government”. But they won’t vote for someone who is killing their families.
For which politician.
for literally any of them, it’s a given right of yours to hold. You could vote for mr shit farts if you so pleased. That would be a bad ballot, but you could still do it. You can also vote locally as well, there are many options here to help this situation.
Scary White Man who is literally funding the genocide of your people
this is also not quite true, it’s partially representative though.
And if you look they say “They won’t vote for Genocide”
classic single issues voting experience really.
ah, that’s a little different. Without context, I thought she was bashing heads at some debate.
Was that shirt official campaign merch to begin with? People make their own t-shirts all the time.
Several years ago, I don’t know about now.
I haven’t looked it up but the Artwork was recently put out by the official artist that did the Obama Hope Poster so I gather it was from the official campaign but did not verify.
What is happening here
Its because there are two seperate very different reactions to this. You have liberals unironically liking the slogan and you have communists loving caitlin johnstone
That ignores the actual context of this shirt. You just cannot remove Putin’s dick from your throat can you?
The actual context of the shirt is an event that happened in 2020 when she told Mike Pence at a VP debate that it was her turn to talk.
I’m sure you’re right about the context, but this still isn’t a great look. I also assumed that this was a reference to the very recent event, not a four year old interaction with someone who isn’t running for office this election cycle. I don’t think that’s an uncommon or unreasonable mistake to make.
Seems like a dumb slogan but I don’t see why you’d get triggered by it. If the Right is triggered by it, that’s probably why Stephen King is wearing it.
Also it isn’t a slogan it’s just on a shirt.
Oh shit. I thought that was Bernie.
Because she said it to silence genocide protestors
She said it during the VP debate in 2020, that’s where most boomer dem moms are gonna know it from
Ohhhhhh, I only know it from the DNC and in all fairness that is what the post is referencing
Is he criticizing or supporting Harris with that shirt?
Yes
if the dems keep being based and doing shit like this, it’s only going to get better going forward.
We need more shitposting like this.
palpatine voice goooood.
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Hey, we’re not supposed to use that word anymore, no matter how accurate it is.
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I don’t know, no one gets called a fag and thinks on what they did. It’s just baseless aggression, rather than communicating anything of value.
If you have strong opinions, voice them like a man. Not like a beast growling.
Always a good course to take. I’m only saying that the right words at the right time can make a difference. We shouldn’t fear words with a bad history if they have a useful place in the present.
They aren’t feared, and they aren’t useful? Queer for example is still useful since it was embraced and used to define ambiguous or questioning folks. Fag is only useful if you’re asking me for a cig or you wanna make some effigies.
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that would admittedly be pretty based though, what a fucking shitpost that would be.
That is not what those words mean and you don’t get to personally decide they mean something else. We have words for those definitions already; Idiot and Asshole.
Every time they’re going to repurpose that shepherd fairy poster.
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Did Shepard Fairey get paid for this shirt?
I looked Caitlin up for 50 seconds. Went to her website. She seems like a huge Tankie with her posts. (Anderson Cooper is a CIA agent.) Fuk, that is some weird lefty paranoid shit, even for me.
Anyway, she can cope and seethe that the country is headed in a better direction.
By “her” do you mean Caitlin or Kamala? It’s really not clear, but I think you mean Caitlin.
I should have clarified, sorry. Caitlin. Maybe she has some good takes, but I am more cautious about certain anti-american leftist rhetoric, and one of them is calling random people CIA agents. I used to be really into this type of stuff, but ever since the Ukrainian war and how the Russian propaganda uses anti-american rhetoric to use as fuel for their war, I have just been more critical of it.
She’s just the left’s equivalent of a thoughtless single issue voter: stuck on her one point like a flagpole sitter, obstinate and blind to the realities of the normal people on the ground below. All of her tweets are like “bOtH sIdEs ArE jUsT aS bAd”.
Well that’s great Caitlin, how nice for you that nothing would change for you personally if Trump won. How awesome to be in such a privileged position that from your high post they both look tHe SaMe. Sounds like a comfy place to spend your days yelling at the people down in the mud.
OP is exactly the same, but never once had cared about anything except hurting Palestinians. ER I mean helping them yes that
Bad troll.
So, Anderson Cooper IS a CIA agent or what?
I agree democracts can be cringe and are not much better than cons, but fuck man they are better than Trump.
Besides, Shawn fain is planning a General Strike in 2028. Can’t wait for that.
I don’t hire why people like this guys books. I’ve read a few and I think they are rushed garbage.
Honestly that says more about your terrible taste than it does King’s writing skills
I mean, makes sense given the cocaine. There’s an entire book he has no me.lry of writing because he was just doing a shit ton of cocaine.
is that the poo lady?
Everybody poops. But only one candidate wears a diaper.
I got Caitlin confused with Kaitlin, not a candidate thing. I’m not sure what it could even mean in that context 😅
I learned on Mythbusters that most adult diapers are mostly to catch the occasional leak, not to take the brunt of a major bathroom meltdown.
Are you talking about Kaitlin Bennett?
I think so, thanks. I also think people thought I was talking about Harris…
Well, there’s only one lady in the image. Who were you referring to?
Caitlin Johnstone, the tweeter of the tweet.
I saw one of these shirts in the wild and it bummed me out a little. Seems like a tasteless slogan to get going, and… just oddly pro-authority sounding. I expected Harris to dissapoint me eventually (Obama 2.0) but I thought she’d at least give me until after the election.
It’s… this. That is the thing disappoints you? The straw that broke the camels back? We are reaching new heights of fragility.
It’s an old shirt from 2020 if that helps. She said “I’m speaking” at a debate. Unfortunately, the context has changed now.
I expect she’ll probably have to use that phrase again in the upcoming debate with Trump. What with the way he tends to ramble like a doddering old man who gets angry when people don’t listen to the weird shit that comes out of his mouth.
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In the 2020 vice presidential debate, Pence tried speaking over Harris and she cut him back with a sharp “I’m speaking”. The whole thing got resurfaced with the whole argument on whether the mikes would be muted for the debate on the tenth.
mikes would be muted
He isn’t in this one
Another bad troll.
More a bot
Not giving them credit, but my partner is actually interesting in this, so not a complete loss
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Update: still, nobody asked
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Nice
Hahahahaha geez, people around here are lame AF. Good on you brother.
That’s Lemmy’s hallmark. We’re lame, but at least we’re not reddit.
