So, I was thinking that I joined Lemmy.World because Lemmy had more users than MBin. But today I was looking at https://mbin.cocopoops.com/ and started seeing MY posts. I knew Mbin could have different instances. I knew Lemmy could have different instances. And I knew they all federated together.

But I didn’t know Mbin could federate with Lemmy. But I’m sure Lemmy/Mbin probably won’t federate with Pixelfed, or Peertube.

Mbin, piefed, and Lemmy are essentially reddit replacements. So they should be in a circle. It doesn’t matter how many users Mbin has, or piefed has, or Lemmy has. It matters how many the full circle of federated reddit replacements have. Because thats the true circle of users that you can interact with.

So what we need is a website that you enter an instance, and it tells you how big your circle would be on that platform, and a list of federated, and defederated instances with it.

So Lemmy.World would have a pretty high circle. While hexbear would have only itself, if I understand right.

  • Blaze@feddit.orgEnglish
    25·
    18 days ago

    But I didn’t know Mbin could federate with Lemmy.

    Interesting, I thought that was quite well known

    • Teppic@piefed.social
      4·
      18 days ago

      I guess it’s well known if you use either platform, but I can see it’s not obvious to someone new to the fediverse and trying to understand it from the outside.

      • Blaze@feddit.orgEnglish
        3·
        17 days ago

        I’ve encountered OP quite a few times, they’ve been here for 4 months, that’s why I thought they would know

        • aasatru@kbin.earth
          4·
          17 days ago

          I’m honestly quite glad people can stay here for months without getting into the technical aspects of the platform. That’s probably a pretty central criteria for it to ever achieve wide success. :)

      • aasatru@kbin.earth
        2·
        17 days ago

        Yeah, I think it’s fair to say nothing we do here is particularly well known in a broader sense. You’re lucky if people have heard of Mastodon - if they know that it’s decentralised that’s incredible, and if they understand what that means you’ve basically encountered an expert.

        It’s a bit of a challenge that people looking at these sites from the outside will struggle to immediately understand what is really going on here. It just redefines the internet to a point where people cannot really understand it without having it explained.

    • srasmus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      17 days ago

      Honestly amazing feature. I hoped some more successful social networks would steal it but alas.

      • TheRedSpade@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        13 days ago

        Didn’t Facebook have something similar for a while? I’d bet it was only implemented because of Google Plus, and I’m pretty sure they scrapped it after the G+ sunset, but I’m almost certain it existed.

  • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
    9·
    18 days ago

    But I didn’t know Mbin could federate with Lemmy. But I’m sure Lemmy/Mbin probably won’t federate with Pixelfed, or Peertube.

    I think all of these are "don’t federate well currently ", but it’s a goal to improve federation over time

    For example, Lemmy is federating with Mastodon better than when I first joined. It’s also possible to subscribe to peertube channels from Lemmy, but it’s a bit buggy.

  • Chozo@fedia.io
    91·
    18 days ago

    But I’m sure Lemmy/Mbin probably won’t federate with Pixelfed, or Peertube.

    Technically, they do! It’s not fully-integrated yet so the process is a bit hackish, but because the ActivityPub protocol works mostly the same on the backend, content from any of these platforms can appear on the others without much issue.

    The biggest issue just has to do with the way you actually interact with each platform may not translate well on another compatible platform. For example, Pixelfed typically nests replies to comments only one layer deep, whereas Lemmy or Mbin will nest many layers deep. The actual nesting still works just fine when you view Pixelfed comments on Lemmy, and if you join in the conversation and reply in the middle of the thread, your post will nest properly for you and will show inline as normal for Pixelfed users. So in some instances, you may need to know a bit about what platform you’re posting to, on top of the platform you’re posting from.

    There’s other quirks like Mastodon replies typically being preceded with @ing the user they’re replying to, which isn’t a thing on the Lemmy side of things. It doesn’t really change the way posting works, and you can choose to not do it and things will still work fine.

  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipEnglish
    92·
    18 days ago

    Generally speaking, all the major instances are federated with all the other major instances.

    The differences are the super tiny instances (which are generally effectively zero traffic) and the controversial instances (mostly tankies). Said controversial instances don’t want to advertise that nobody can stand them and the rest of the instances don’t want to deal with the bullshit from bringing it up again.

    I think it would be a nice novelty to visualize this. But I don’t think there would be much actionable information coming out of it and , because this is The Internet, it will likely lead to harassment and brigading.

  • Iapar@feddit.orgEnglish
    6·
    17 days ago

    We need a one protocol that everyone adheres to.

    People talk about fediverse and say it is decentralized, which is true, but mostly it is fractured.

    I came here because i thought all those services are united under a common protocol so every service can communicate with other services.

    Maybe they show it in a different style or follow another philosophy but the “content” is there for everyone.

    Doesn’t seem that way. Everyone does it in their own way and that kinda sucks to be honest.

    But yeah… Cicles would be cool.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      3·
      17 days ago

      People talk about fediverse and say it is decentralized, which is true, but mostly it is fractured.

      I’ve been saying this since day 1 of me being here.

  • Teppic@piefed.socialEnglish
    5·
    18 days ago

    Hello from PieFed!
    Kbin/Mbin is actually very versatile, it has a threads side (much like Lemmy), but it also has the Microblog side which is like Mastodon in form and function. One or other of these usually works for most of the fediverse.