Any Accountability At All Commission

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        Arguably, it has been tested, several times. Each time it failed, after a fashion. We should be concerned what message that sends to the next person who would contemplate engaging in such impeachment-actionable behaviors.

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    The third political party in the US should be The Woodchipper. You don’t vote for candidates, just The Woodchipper. If The Woodchipper gets the majority of votes, all the candidates on the ticket get tossed in a fucking woodchipper and we start the election over with new candidates.

    This fixes our problems, in a uniquely American way.

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    Why stop there? Have every President, Senator, and Member of Congress investigated at all times. Whether we think they’re corrupt or not.

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        It’s innocent until proven guilty, not innocent until investigated.

        But yes, it would be politicized immediately. If only there was a way to have bad faith actors run a government smoothly, then we’d be cooking with gas.

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          Getting the money out of elections would go a long way. The problem is that more than half the ones who need to choose to get the money out benefit from it.

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        The same FBI that was dismissed by Trump when they looked into him, even though he was totally guilty? Or the same FBI that told civil rights protestors to kill themselves?

        The FBI is the Federal police for crimes the common man commits, not the rich.

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    I remember hoping that Obama would prosecute Bush for all of his crimes, in hindsight it was really naive.

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          Is lying about “weapons of mass destruction” in order to convince the country to invade another so the dickbag trio could get more wealthy legal? Cheney, Rumsfield and Bush agree I guess.

          Free speech and all would make lying legal, so I guess you’re right… Lawful evil it is then :/

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          Trump is just a Captain Planet villain cosplayer.

          FTFY.

          Trump is simply not competent enough and never has been.

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          Bush wasn’t evil. He was a good man but in over his head. His entire cabinet was evil men that knew exactly what they were doing and they largely called all the shots

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            Why are you doing Bush apologia? He’s the one who appointed all those evil men and let them do evil stuff, which he did because he’s evil.

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              Because he was a puppet for his father. Blaming Bush for Cheneys actions does nothing but absolve Cheney and the other war criminals in his cabinet.

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                That’s like saying that you can’t hold Hitler responsible for war crimes or you’re just absolving Goebbels. Bush, Cheney, and all the rest of them are all war criminals who deserve the most severe legal punishment there is.

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        Right? I hate that phrase as it’s used here. How are we supposed to move on when national traumas are left unresolved?

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    I don’t want Trump to win because he’s more likely to create a “presidential crimes commission” full of political appointees going after the other party.

    We have the legal system, if there are crimes they should be charged. The answer is not some additional political tribunal.

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      Ha ha ha ha your legal system is the laughing stock of the planet

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      Judge shopping and legislation via court ruling have called into question the fairness and legitimacy of a once ironclad judicial system. It’s being gamed right now by the wealthy and powerful to get what they want.

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        Then the answer is fixing those issues. Saying the system isn’t working so we need to ignore it and build out a new system purpose built to prosecute my political opponents is like definitional fascism. We don’t need a strong man to fix everything extrajudicially, we just need the law applied fairly.

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    If we can’t even get Trump to stop running despite being a convicted felon, I don’t even know if we can catch up with the next fucker. Dude could literally shoot someone on 5th Ave and the government would go “Well, they’re the president, what are you going to do about it?”

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      Didn’t he directly say he could shoot someone and still win the (2016) election? I swear I remember seeing that he flat out said that, I think around the time of the Republican primary debates

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      Having convicted felon be able to run for office is a good thing. I don’t want a Navalny situation in my country.

      An insurrectionist, though? Fuck that noise. Trump should be hanged. He tried to violently overthrow the government.

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      If they don’t remove presidential immunity during the next president’s term in office we’ll be sitting on a time bomb of WHEN, not IF, a president uses that immunity to destroy our democracy.

      I mean, I know we’re probably all well aware that this is exactly why the immunity ruling was made and it makes it all the more dire that it be rectified and codified in unambiguously worded law as soon as possible.

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    Haha yeah the government that’s currently enabling war crimes is gonna totally make a commission to hold presidents liable for crimes.

    This is why nothing changes. If you start looking at one of them you have to look at all of them.

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    organize and take to the streets (and their pockets) if you want that to actually happen.

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    And they will be zionists because why not take the chance to covertly control the US decisions more?

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      Why Zionists specifically?

      Yes, I’m hoping you say something racist. It’s why I asked.

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        Being antizionist means you are against the Israeli government. Being antisemitic means you are prejudiced against Jews, Jewish faith etc. Two different things.

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        I don’t think you know exactly what Zionism is then. It’s a political/social ideology. What does that have to do with racism? Maybe you were thinking of antisemitism?

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          I thought the direction he was going in was Jews in general.

          It happens often enough.

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        Zionism is literally jewish supremacy and pure racism. Enough with the gaslighting you PoS hasbara

        Also let me think, maybe look at the political status quo of the US where an Israeli national (Blinken) brought up by a mossad agent confidante (Epstein) is in charge of US foreign policy!!

        Maybe look at AIPAC that is bribing US policiticans and not registered as foreign agents.