I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!

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    That’s how things should work honestly. Those that can chip in, should. A beer every so often goes a long way. It’s honestly something I barely notice in my finances too. This time it goes to something I believe in instead of a twitch sub lol.

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      Don’t get me started on twitch subs. Supporting a creator you like is fine, but spending 100s of dollars on gift subs is so stupid.

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        Twitch looking at their top creators leaving for other platforms.

        Increasing our revenue share, unilaterally, should fix this.

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          Subs = subscriptions.

          A sub on Twitch gives you a badge and special emojis on your subbed channel (streamer).

          You also have the option to gift (randomly) 1, 5, 25, 50, 100 subs to random followers (users).

          A sub costs $5 in the US, you can gift 100 subs ($500) if you want to.

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          My guess is they mean in the sense of “support creaters as you’d like, but don’t throw all your money into it just for them to pay attention to you for a second”

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            Well then they probably should’ve said that instead of saying something unrelated to the point ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            Subs are kinda like tip, except you get something in return. Usually its emotes you can use on any stream on twitch. Some streamers can make other stuff like sub only discord channel but its optional.

            Gift subs are exactly the same except you give the benefits to some other chaters.

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      Yep! The developer of Connect for Lemmy is getting caffeinated on a regular basis by me. It’s a perfect fit for the RIF gap in my heart. ;)

      He/She(?) is doing an awesome job and it’s amazing how far this app has come in just a few short weeks. I am trying to keep the dev motivated as much as possible, for sure!

      My only gripe is that it’s not open source, but that is OK.

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      Agreed, I started donating to Lemmy as soon as I switched, and I’m happy to pay for sync too. I want to support this ecosystem.

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    I’m sure that everyone who was raging at Sync over the last few days, stating that all software should be FOSS have all made significant contributions to the Lemmy devs.

    FOSS is pretty bloody great, and one of the greatest things about the modern IT industry. But FOSS doesn’t pay a mortgage.

    To be clear: I have contributed to Lemmy, and will likely pay a lifetime fee for Sync sooner or later.

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      I installed Sync, threw $16 LJ’s way for putting in the work to convert it to work with Lemmy, and then uninstalled lol (commenting from Thunder). I plan on continuing to use FOSS clients for Fediverse stuff, but am happy there’s a healthy variety of open and closed source clients for everyone to pick and choose from.

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    Y’all just seething bc others are enjoying things. This is just cringe. This is not a zero sum game. You can donate to lemmy devs/instance devs/fav. app devs and whatever else you like too.

    And let’s not pretend this is new. You could see a lot of memmy users being excited about their app too. I don’t know what the hell they are talking about. But I’m glad they have an app they like that much.

    Just. Let. People. Enjoy. Things.

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      i dont think theres anything wrong with sync enjoyers loving their app but i have to agree that the iap money would be better spent on actually keeping instances alive

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        This is such a bad take. By the same logic, the time you spend scrolling through Lemmy would have been better spent serving the homeless in the soup kitchen or sweeping the streets clean. But yet here you are. Why?

        Let’s face it, the “IAP money” you referred to has always been there, Sync dev found a way (and has the balls) to monetize his work to a pretty big extent. And only now are you all sour grapes about it. If Lemmy instances are so desperate for money why didn’t they make an equally big effort to monetize? On the flip side, if money isn’t such a big issue why do you care if Sync is monetizing?

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        They think its about the app itself and not about a reminder that if lemmy instances aren’t funded, Sync will be desolate. Which will mean that the $5.00-$1xx they may or may not spend on Sync would be for an effectively dead app.

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          The last I read, the instance was already fully-funded through the end of the year.

          Why is the notion that the instance is going under something lemmings keep bringing up? Yes… I understand the model. But it is fully funded - or was. Why are people acting like the instance is about to fail?

          Should we start rumors that the instance is about the fail? Or… are recent facts useful, here?

          Yes, there are other instances, but the preponderance of Sync users joined lemmy.world.

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            It’s been an entire 24 hours bruh. I’m not reading that, I’ve moved on, have a good day.

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              Makes sense. No one is entitled to the labor of others.

              Applies here, too.

              If no one else is reading this, something is fishy with votes. No… not preoccupied with the vote. Preoccupied with what it may indicate. It is, as you’ve indicated, stale.

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        It’s not either or. But I have now stopped donating because y’all can’t get off this topic.

        Hate the super-rich, not people with enough money left over at the month that they can afford a nicer way to interact with lemmy as intended - ad free.

        That the server needs people with extra cash to support it is exceedingly valid. That’s why I had been donating until literally 10 minutes ago.

        I’m not subsidizing people who feel entitled to: Free shit Using free shit to tell others how they should spend (Acting like my money is theirs)

        It’s a simple boundaries issue that so many on Lemmy don’t seem to comprehend.

        When I stopped my donation, there was “other” then a box to say why. I filled it in. It’s just one donation that stopped, but who knows, there could be more.

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          I have now stopped donating because y’all can’t get off this topic.

          When I stopped my donation, there was “other” then a box to say why. I filled it in. It’s just one donation that stopped, but who knows, there could be more.

          You stopped supporting the server you use because some other people (on different servers) commented about another topic entirely? I don’t understand the logic behind that. Are you under the impression that someone posting from lemmy.ca is secretly the maintainer of lemmy.world? What’s the logical connection here for you?

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            Thank you for asking and a thoughtful response.

            I’m (hopefully obviously) not opposed to supporting lemmy.world or the devs. I don’t expect free stuff.

            I have run into more than a couple people who have needed to opine and troll because they have strong feeling about people enjoying Sync.

            The lemmyverse has at least one starting point and maybe I’m still learning. What I see is a place begun in a somewhat communist, left leaning, pro-FOSS standpoint. I suspect that demographic is inclined to thought processes I can’t grok.

            I understand class resentment (I do; I’m not wealthy (at all)). I understand fatigue with people geeking out over an app that underwhelms a person of other tastes (or means).

            That said, I see your distinction. One of the virtues of lemmy is that it’s a loose federation. But people from a variety of servers have argued in poor faith (or just not seen what they’re doing).

            I expect disagreement. It’s part of why I’m here: to hear well reasoned counter points and to learn. But it’s difficult to say lemmy.world has been happy about the newcomers. That I’ve seen anyhow.

            If making the point that allies are being alienated in ways that matter to us all, helps make a point that we could be friends, then I’ll make that point.

            I did end my subscribed support that would have outpaced my Sync spend within a year (you can math that). Lemmy, right now, has an unwelcoming vibe that’s not even a little background. It is foreground. And problematic if this experiment is going to work.

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          all i said is better spent, not that you’re not allowed to spend money on sync; and you talk about it like you’re forced to pay to browse lemmy without ads when it’s sync that has ads and not lemmy?

          Strange comment

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            I happily supported the dev. Just as I had happily supported the server.

            OP mentions sync, you mention sync, I mention sync (eww thats crass), you mention sync… first line comments mention sync in frustrated tones. Are you going to lecture them too?

            I know the misrepresent-and-fatigue strategy of argumentation and I’m not going to play. I’ve seen it a surprising amount here on Lemmy and you’re doing it now.

            If honesty or integrity don’t mean a lot to you, I’d recommend turning over the soap box.

            On topic, again: you, along with others, have persuaded me to cease donations but I don’t retreat like you may hope.

            This bastian of class resentment is going to have to adapt or close. If everyone here is what I’m seeing, I hope the person running the server has deep pockets. Or I guess everyone keeps instance hopping until everyone realizes it’s not sustainable and instances aren’t spun up.

            I’m not wealthy, in the least, but I don’t expect things for free. Lemmy has taught me I should. I’ll apply that to the servers and development.

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      You’re absolutely correct. Anyone can enjoy any app they like and either pay for it or not.

      But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.

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          Here’s what OP said:

          “With all this talk about Sync pricing…I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!”

          How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that that is in any way calling Sync users out?

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              I have to assume you’re referring to things I’ve said as it would be pretty stupid to expect me to be answerable for things other people have said.

              So, you let me know where I’ve made any comments in the entire thread that are based on Sync being a for-profit app and my lectures about the desirability of FOSS purism and I’ll be happy to talk about them.

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                  Let me make a list of things that would be “stupid” to take from this.

                  That you are answerable for what others have said.

                  Then why did you ask me to justify OP’s post?

                  That you are among those that were prodding Sync users.

                  Then why did you try and make me answerable for what other people were saying?

                  Not whatever the fuck direction that was that you just tried to take it in.

                  It’s pretty simple. You said:

                  “because of the sync mention by the OP, there is a preponderance of lecturing coming from the FOSS purist community. It is infantile to expect no response to that”

                  And clearly expected me to have some sort of ownership of, or participation in, that lecturing. I then pointed out to you that I didn’t believe I had either but if you could find an example of me doing so I’d be happy to talk about it.

                  Feel free to tell me why my paraphrasing was inaccurate

                  Because it’s not what I said. I said:

                  “You’re absolutely correct. Anyone can enjoy any app they like and either pay for it or not…But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.”

                  I’m not sure saying someone(s) coming into a thread which is nothing to do with Sync as a piece of software and proceeding to hijack it to be about Sync is infantile behaviour is directly equivalent to ‘standing up for yourself is infantile’. They weren’t standing up for themselves, they’d made an error in understanding what the thread was about and when informed what it was about got annoyed and asked why they ‘couldn’t just use what we want’ or ‘why do you care?’ when as far as I can tell nobody (certainly not me) told them they couldn’t use whatever app they wanted to, its simply not what this thread was about.

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    OP: Please try and support instance admins and Lemmy devs

    Sync fans in the comments: Yes, I bought Sync and love it

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      I swear I’m trying to not be a dick but it’s like they saw their favorite word and ignored everything else. It’s giving twitter stan.

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        If all the big instances go away through lack of financial support, they’re going to find out they paid $130 to swap Sync memes with the 3 people left.

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            They might contribute to an existing instance sure, but I doubt they’d host. There’s no real financial incentive for the profit driven to host a Lemmy instance unless they charge for membership and I doubt even Sync users are naive enough to pay twice for something.

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      Sync fans in the comments: Yes, I bought Sync and love it

      This is what people said me that would not happens. But, I knew people will think by paying for Sync they will pay for Lemmy (devs and instances).

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      Ironic because it’s literally the same situation that Reddit was going through that caused the migration to Lemmy in the first place

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        I left because of how reddit treated the 3rd part app Devs, suddenly forcing them to cancel subscriptions halfway through the year. (They could have given the Devs a heads up, but chose not to.) I left because of the libel that was being spread about a dev. For me, it wasn’t that they wanted to charge money to use reddit, it’s how they went about it that made me leave and not return.

        Of course, they also forgot about blind people and moderating tools. They then kicked many mods for voicing their opinion and/or participating the blackout, even if the subreddit in question was in agreement with them.

        I don’t see Sync doing any of that, so please speak for yourself on why the migration happened.

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          Agree. The service needs money and if it’s used hours a week… it may deserve some monthly cash.

          But spez. Spez had to spez. I try not to click reddit answers on Google now. Someone else can get that traffic/click.

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      See it’s funny because when I browse everything it’s basically 50% memes from existing lemmy users about not liking sync.

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      I call it, “subscription fatigue”.

      Work bought me an iPad. It was my first foray into iOS.

      I’m not sure what the app store was like before, but I couldn’t find a single app that didn’t have a subscription plan. Even a simple SSH client built using open source libraries wants $6.00/mo.

      I totally understand why people groan and do a face palm any time they see yet another app wanting to charge them monthly, hoping that once there you’ll forget that you’ve subscribed.

      The only reason that I paid for Sync is that I’ve seen the dev interactions and their dedication to the project. I would never ever pay for a software subscription from any of the big players. For a single person setup, I’m more than happy to do it. I donate to my favorite podcasts and my favorite designers from Thingiverse.

      Late stage capitalism and the rent-seeking economy sucks. But becoming accustomed to individuals paying other individuals is one of the things we’re going to have to do to make it suck less.

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        From the developer’s point of view, subscription makes more sense as people benefit from continual development and updates, and the dev continually gets paid for their time.

        I paid $1 or $2 for sync pro like 9 years ago and back then, it took a lot to get me to pay for apps. The more I use the app, the more I got for my money per hour spent using the all. But the more work the dev did after he got my money, the less he gets paid for his labor, per hour.

        Nowadays, $1-2 feels like a steal for an app, especially for a one time payment. I haven’t paid for ad-free or ultra yet, but I intend to because he’s shown a long history of listening to his user base and updating/fixing things in a timely manner, which that type of service also is something I value as a customer, even if it isn’t a tangible benefit.

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        I’m one of those with subscription fatigue but that’s not a problem with sync because you don’t have to subscribe. You can just pay the one time ad-free option and that’s all right with me. I honestly don’t know what’s going on with the vitriol against sync on lemmy. I think most people don’t realise that nobody needs to subscribe to sync, you can use it for free with ads OR you pay the one time fee and have it ads free forever without the other subscription features.

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        Termius?

        I might pay for their subscription if it was like $2 a year. Cloud sync is not worth $120 a year.

        I only really need it when I’m transferring devices. Oddly enough, they also seem to give you a free one week trial whenever you do so.

        I get that they’re targeting enterprise customers, but they could just charge a smaller fee for individuals and go hard on companies who are skirting the rules.

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    Sync dev wanting something worth for the all the work they’re doing is fine imo. You can tell he put a lot of effort into the app.

    The sync cult however seem to be as annoying as they were on reddit. They are like this when we discuss anything about sync’s pricing even on non sync communities.

    “I’m so happy I can buy sync again”

    “Sync is the best”

    “No other 3PA can compare to it in my experience”

    This is one of the few times I feel like “nobody asked” applies.

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      Conversely, all the memes trying to shit on sync by people who never used it or even tried it, who asked?

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      I agree, some of these users in Sync threads are just straight up fucking annoying. Not even with their opinions that Sync is the best, that’s inconsequential in my opinion and fine, but I’ve had to stand up to a few really ignorant and a couple of really dumb takes regarding FOSS recently. I’m a FOSS advocate, but I believe in using the best tool/app/option firstly and I generally avoid recommendations unless they are sought after, but I just can’t stand by when inaccuracies and hypocritical takes are being thrown around regarding FOSS.

      I had someone essentially arguing for security through obscurity with this comment recently:

      FOSS brings a whole lotta good - and more good than bad - but it’s also pretty damn vulnerable because a bad actor could just look at the source code and then figure out what exploits and vulnerabilities a FOSS app might have.

      Another user with another bad take:

      Why would I invest my time and energy into a FOSS app that may go defunct in a year or two, when I can just install an app that does the same thing, looks nicer, does more, is easier to use, and has the backing of a company that is likely going to stick around for a while?

      Like hello? That proprietary app just got killed by a proprietary platform, and was saved by a FOSS platform. And backing of a company? Also might want to check out killedbygoogle.com

      With that said, Sync is really polished, it’s been in development for a long time now so it’s going to have that advantage over other clients. It has by far the most customization I’ve tried, which I absolutely love, and it runs smoothly. Right now it has a major glitch with comment sorting by top, but once that is fixed, then it is worth $20 for ad-free. And annoying Sync users aside, that’s how I feel about Sync.

      I also support Jerboa, and have sent them money. And in all honestly, even though Jerboa doesn’t have the customization that Sync has right now, it runs just as smoothly and the defaults align with my wants and needs so it doesn’t need the extra customization for me personally. When Jerboa adds a default comment sorting option, it’s going to be my preferred client.

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      Did somebody asked your opinion?

      No. But here we are. Reading about the “sync cult” whatever that is.

      So… Let’s extend that courtesy to everyone, all right?

      Because a “nobody asked about your opinion” stance is a sure fire way to end any discussion platform. Like lemmy.

      What I do think that Mr. Dawson should do is direct a percentage of that sweet sync income at lemmy.world and the lemmy devs. That would end or at least lessen this discussion.

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        I’d normally agree. I don’t really like when someone responds with “nobody asked” to me or someone else.

        But I really don’t think a comment such as “I’m glad I can buy sync again” is appropriate for posts such as this. OP came to remind us to donate to lemmy devs as one of the main topics of lemmy is about sync now. The OP and the users who clicked this post didn’t come to see comments like those from those specific sync users.

        As for calling them a cult, I apologize for that.

        Again, I also agree “nobody asked” isn’t really a healthy way to proceed but those comments really do feel irrelevant. I have no idea what their purpose is here.

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          No need to apologise for anything bud, this is the Internet where Linus rants daily! We all do!

          I understand you’re fed up with all the sync bs. I just think we have to try to turn this in/to a way everybody gets better from it.

          The reddit refugees are happy because “this feels just like home”, they(we) don’t care it’s 20 bucks!

          The og Foss crowd grumpingly :) accepts the higher amount of contributions which stems from that. (this is the point we’ve to drive home to ljdawson(sync dev)

          And we all benefit because the fediverse grows and keeps growing, more content, more everything. Shiny beautiful future, end to war and world hunger, beginning of a new era where humanity reaches for the stars or dies because of a rogue AI or because of a runaway greenhouse effect.

          Wait. No, not those last ones. It should have a happy ending.

          Anyway: Everybody is happy. More or less. :) *for a while. *

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    I don’t subscribe as a rule these days.Subscription fatigue is a real thing but I do make one time payments to regularly used services or apps across the year. I guess it’s like tipping in that respect, I do it when I feel I should.

    For Sync, the subscription seemed steep for an app for a platform I’m still only starting to use and don’t use anywhere near Reddit levels (by design I might add) plus the one time payment seems similarly steep. I bought the pro for Reddit about 2 years before Reddit went full ham and was ready to spend the £8 of Google credit I have on it again if it turned out I used it/lemmy more than I do.

    The issue I found is that feeding that back on anything like this hit the cult wall and you just get a lot of angry posting about you being cheap or just use the ads etc. Hell, you can see the same posts even in this thread which is only tangentially related to that whole quagmire. I had hoped that lemmy would be less vitriolic and more discussion based even on these kinds of things but I guess people are just tribalistic regardless.

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      I agree that subscription fatigue is a huge thing, and I avoid services as a rule of thumb unless there are real reasons for the subscription, ie ongoing usage based costs.

      That said, I view $2 a month as a reasonable subscription cost, and if Reddit had charged that I would have happily paid it to keep bacon reader. It’s only the one time payment cost that is very steep ($99).

      I chip in $5/mo for lemmy.world to help pay to keep it ad free and running

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      The difference is that some users have been using sync for a decade and using Lemmy for only a month. So it’s a lot easier to mentally justify supporting a developer who you’ve been benefiting from for so long.

      I have also donated to my local instance, I really hope to see it all grow together.

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          Reddit has benefitted from Sync, and other 3rd party apps, way more than Sync has benefitted from Reddit.

          It’s less clear cut with Lemmy, which is supposed to evolve an ecosystem of free tools, so it might be that some day Sync will be benefitting from Lemmy more than Lemmy from Sync… but for now, Lemmy is relatively bare bones, like what Reddit used to be 15 years ago, so any 3rd party app with extra features is still a good thing.

          Fortunately, Lemmy has no incentive to go closed source, like Reddit did (let’s not forget Reddit used to be open source while it was convenient for them, then it wasn’t).

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    This is all I’ve been trying to get across, y’all won’t be able to enjoy your sync if the admins can’t pay for the servers. Seek out your home instance’s donation links and come up out them pockets like y’all did for Lawrence. This applies to everyone else too, but since I can clearly see sync users commenting that they paid to remove ads or for lifetime access to upcoming features(like posting), I know they have the money 😂

    As far as .World goes, their lowest Patreon sub is $1 a month.

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    Personally, I think the app is absolutely fine without paying for the subscription. I really don’t see too many ads. I get an average of one ad for every two refreshes of the feed when scrolling through, and none of them have been obtrusive. It’s certainly night and day when compared to the ads in the official Reddit app.

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      I run all my traffic through a slightly anonymizing VPN service that also blocks ads. Turns out the ads here are also blocked 🥳

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        Same. I have a PiHole on my home network and it blocks the ads in Sync. I still see the empty box where the ad would be though. If I am out of the house the only way I can get that ad blocking back is by connecting to my home VPN server.

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          In my experience, AdGuard has a more useful (free for home use) server that mirrors the pihole service. It’s more customizable, and this bit is probably the key here, and you can have different rules for different devices/network numbers

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      I’m not seeing many ads tbh. However, I’m damn sure that it’ll be ad-filled after sometime, specially since they are charging so much for the ad-free.

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        I mean it’s just a port of the Reddit version that was made by the same dev and had been around for over a decade (with constant updates and improvements), I don’t think enshittification is a given.

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          Well, compared to Reddit getting filled with “ad looking like real post”, and “ad written as a comment”, and “mass downvote everyone except the ad”… it’s really hard to stoop that low.

          What is likely to keep Sync in check, are the alternative apps. Reddit got enshittified because it became the single point of failure.

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        The ads weren’t terrible on the free Reddit version, they’re just inline ads between posts.

        There may have been a banner on some galleries but I’m not sure if that’s carried over also.

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        Depends on if their business model works. If enough people are paying for premium and using the free version of the app to pay for development, there is no reason for them to increase the amount of ads. In fact, if they do show too many ads, it will likely push a lot of users to alternate apps.

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    The people who develop lemmy get paid to do so, as stated by iirc Dessalines themselves.

    I would put donating to those running instances at the highest priority, because without servers, we have nothing.

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      You don’t have to explain if you can’t! Don’t feel bad. Supporting yourself should definitely come first. Hope you are doing alright.

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      And that’s totally fine. That’s the beauty of the internet, not everybody has to pitch in, and if you can’t you shouldn’t feel bad about it. There was a time when I was a starving college student and was doing the five finger discount on a very regular basis. We’re glad you’re here regardless.

      My egalitarian FOSS is showing lol

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      Yeah, I do wish there was some form of regional pricing going on. Doesn’t seem to be the case if the prices I’m seeing in my (also third world) country are anything to go by.

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        Y’all are talking about sync, we are talking about donating to your instance admins.

        Edit: and the Lemmy devs, if you can.

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          You’re absolutely right, major brain fart on my part to assume that’s what the person I responded to meant

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        According to his update I believe he’ll be working on regional prices this week

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      FYI if you still want to show support, librepay allows you to give a “symbolic donation” of just $0.01 a week, or $0.52 a year

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    This is my biggest problem with it. I have no issue with Sync charging. I have an issue with Sync charging and not passing anything on to the developers of Lemmy.

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      I think lemmy instances should be able to charge for API acce… wait a minute

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        There’s nothing wrong with charging for API access if the price is reasonable. Reddit was intentionally unreasonable to kill off 3rd party traffic. In 2022, the avg reddit user brought in $0.72 USD per year. If they charged just $1/yr, they’d increase their profit!

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          Hell, I would even dare say, the best way to do it is to have the API be free up to a certain usage, at which point it becomes paid. Then the price scales down as you get even more and more usage.

          This allows newcomers to the app space to get their footing, and punishes people trying to automate vote bots while rewarding established devs.

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          Yes I know, it was just pretty funny that the first comment I saw was about a paid 3rd party app not paying for access, when this was one of reddit’s “official” reasons for the changes.

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          a reasonable price that’s not foisted without notice? who makes such reasoned business decisions?

          “because twitter did it” Spez’s stupid ass thought he should follow suit. idiot’s dumber than a bag of hammers.

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        Ha, touché. But the difference is that Reddit was already monetized via ads, while Lemmy is not.