This is not my pic because I forgot to screenshot it when I did it. Microsoft has the hardest captcha I have ever had to complete. This one looks easier but I had a similar one that on my phone the images were too small, not recognizable and were more abstract looking shapes. It was so hard, I failed like 8 times (there were several ‘rounds’) and it almost made me second guess whether I might actually be a robot lol. Luckily, there was an audio version where you have to pick from a number of melody recordings and choose the one that was a pattern. Anyone else have trouble with this?

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    I got this one the other day during a checkout process. This site lost the sale, I couldn’t crack it.

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      I would have picked the only picture of a dog. Bees and Tapirs/Capybaras don’t seem to fit

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        Me and all my friends agree, but the site did not accept that as the correct answer. I originally took that picture to get a second opinion and make sure I wasn’t going crazy heh. I even tried for a new captcha, and it was still nonsense.

        We did it, we beat AI. And humans.

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      That one is terrible. I assume by “object” they mean “dog wearing accessories”. That captcha was made to trick humans.

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    So, it’s a little known fact that captchas and such like no longer test to see if you can solve something, because the bots have evolved to pass those kinds of tests.

    They also tried to set them up to succeed where humans failed, but then bots evolved to pass those, too.

    So now they look at how you fail or pass, or how you keep trying. Basically, they’re checking if you’re human by seeing how you respond to frustration.

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        well, there’s that too.

        Kind of a “we need to put this out there anyway” kind of thing…

        The way they verify you’re human is how you respond, but they’re also getting you to train AI’s while they do it.

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      A few years ago when I was in college, I would’ve been able to solve that equation probably but that information has since left my brain lol.

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        Yup same, i looked it up and it all came back. However, it’s still a completely useless knowledge in my normal adult life, though i’m a software engineer

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          Much of the math I learned was memorizing steps. If it came up in real life I probably wouldn’t be able to piece all necessary info into an equation. Even a word problem is assumed to include the minimum. I am not a software engineer nor a programmer (yet) I am learning python supposedly a good precursor since my bg is in web design. The way i see it, all forms of logic while they don’t have a direct applied use in my life, serve as an exercising of my mind and can help understand inconsistencies and other logic/reasoning concepts. They are indirectly related.

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          Calc was extremely useful to me as an industrial engineer and thank fuck I only have to understand it instead of actually doing it in my profession

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      My solution:

      The outer square lines in the third column/row is the result of the difference between what exists in the first two items in that row/column. Only outer lines appearing only once will be in the 3rd shape. The center lines seem to be only center lines that appear in both shapes. Therefore x is 52, since all outer shapes cancel and there are no shared center lines. The rest is fairly simple.

      The second derivative of f(x) is 78x + 22, so the answer is 78(52) + 22 + 52 = 4130

      I’m not completely confident in this solution but it seems to be consistent with the known columns and rows.

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        I agree with your solution! GG

        • f’(x) = 3(13)x²+2(11)x+10
        • f"(x) = 6(13)x+22 = 72x + 22
        • f"(52) = 4056 + 22 = 4 078

        4078 + 52 = 4 130

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      Claude 3.5 sonnet seems to think the answer is 23

      CharGPT o1 thinks it’s 6, but the formula answer is 496 and just a “bonus”

      o1 also “thought” about for a LONG TIME 1 minute and 11 seconds, which is the longest I’ve ever been able to get it to “think” about anything LMAO\

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        Notice how it doesn’t explain what’s going on in the pattern that got it to number 6. It’s just a guess. If push comes to shove, anyone can make a straight faced lie that whatever option is the correct answer, they’ll just avoid explaining it.

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        that’s really impressive, parsing so much information from a 2 step problem displayed skewed on a garbled background

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        no, you need to derivate the f(x) function twice because the last line asks for f"(x). you do that by taking down the exponent in front of each power of the polynomial and decreasing the power by one each time you derivate.

        So for the 13x³: derived once it becomes 3 times 13 x², which equals 39x². Derived a second time, it is 2 times 39x, so 78x.

        The 11x² becomes 2 times 11x, and then just 22 (times x power zero). the rest disappears after two derivatives.

        The x is given when finding the correct pattern that matches the missing symbol in the first part of the problem, being the dot, so 52. I explained how you find this in a comment somewhere up here :)

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          Pretty sure 78x + 22 is f double prime of x. So f’’(x) + x simplifies to 79x + 22.

          I found the other posts about XOR for solving the visual puzzle.

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          f’‘(x) is 78x+22 but the question asks what number is f’'(x) + x, hence 79x+22.

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        no the correct pattern is 52, using the following method:

        • for each column, superpose the outer diagonal lines of the first and second pattern, lines that appear in both symbols are suppressed in the third (bottom) pattern, lines that only appear in one of the two first patterns are kept.
        • for each column, superpose the clock hands of the first and second pattern, only keep the clock hands that appear in both symbols at the same position.

        The third column has the same diagonal lines in the first and second pattern, so they disappear. Those two symbols have different clock hands so they also disappear. So the only remaining element in the pattern is the central dot (52).

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    I fucking hate captchas with a passion. They make me violent. Captchas should be illegal for the sake of my mental health. As a VPN user I see them 10x more than the average person.

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      Honestly captchas and the enshittification of the internet has completely driven me away from tech. Its become so user hostile that it simply is no longer worth the effort. There have been times where just to access a page I have to do five rounds of captchas.

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        Yeah, also, where did all the fun stuff go? Now it’s just rage bait AI generated “articles” that pushes the dopamine button.

        Where are 3D printer projects, robots, science, the arts, longevity science, DIY, and so on?

        Mustn’t we build a new internet without the idea that you should earn a living from whatever you do there?

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        Yeah I feel that. I spend lots of time on my computer offline. I got games, music, movies, even some books. I’m pretty much set. Part of me does want to run away and live in the woods though.

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    Rapidly getting into the “overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists” levels of captcha

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      Hey man, I don’t like Chicago either, but to say that their football players are all dumb? I’m sure they’re reasonably smart…

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      I just feel jipped bc my version of the orbits and numbers were all jumbles so you couldn’t tell which orbit pertained to which number.

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    I’ve been staring at this thing for like 30 seconds, and I have zero clue what it’s asking you to do.

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      There is simple arrows at the bottom which changes availiable images. They just change orbits on different images and when it’s in correct orbit click submit

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        But…9 is on a different orbit. It’ll collide with the teal chess piece. Then we’ll have chess pieces floating in space for all eternity!

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          and if you fail too many times and they collide then you’ll initiate a cascading reaction of ever-more-destroyed chess pieces, invalidating entire orbits, and rendering every possible orbit uninhabitable.

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    Apparently if you wanted to *defeat AI you just need to ask the user how many R’s there are in strawberry.

    *edit because dictation is stupid

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    I think we’re way past the need for an “if you can’t auto detect bots then that’s a you problem, dog” legislation. I guess you could be boring and call it anti-hostile experience regulation or whatever. but this shit needs to die like most Google projects.

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      The version I did had smaller circles, more abstract and nearly indistinguishable symbols and shapes and the numbers were scattered throughout the orbits. Some numbers were in between and it took a few seconds to figure out what orbit they were ‘labeling’. Also as you scrolled through the options, it seemed as if none fit the appropriate answer so I defaulted to the audio.

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    Someone shared with me having to calculate the resistance of a resistor once. I sent them the color band chart to figure it out lol

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    Unplug the network cable and reboot. When it asks about an account there should be an option to join a domain. Select that and you can make a local account. *

    *Ms changes this a bit so it may be inaccurate

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      This was for an online service. I don’t want it to be restricted to one device. I was creating multiple accounts so I could have multiple free trials of things not affiliated with MS but had an option to use an MS account to log in.

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    They should just make a captcha that asks how many 'r’s in ‘strawberry’.