American here:
I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.
That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won’t do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they’d do it for it’s political doppelgänger.
The world has that option. Come to think of it, it’s pretty pitiful they haven’t the humanity to stand up to this monster looming across the sea.
I’m almost as disappointed in the rest of the world not standing up to the USA as I am disappointed in my fellow citizens’ abdication of social and civic responsibility, common decency, and basic humanity.
Translation: I don’t want to to go or of my comfort zone and actually do anything. I just want those other people across the world to fix it for me.
I am asking for help because I can’tfix this on my own. It’s okay to do that.
Think the only ways to stop this is passing a bill prohibiting using money on GITMO like the Republicans did with the prohibition of spending money to close GITMO.
Or lawsuits.
Or the people take a stand.
Nice try FBI guy.
You caught me, I am a Fat Balding Italian. At least partially Italian.
I’m not Italian, but I am a Fat Balding Idiot so we’re all good.
I’m not Italian or Balding, but I’m super fat.
Fbi is watching
I dunno what I can do besides get out of the US or sewer slide.
Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out…
I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options… There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I’ve been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible… The people need to know. I’ve even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they’re doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that… I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can’t see society go this way.
I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do… I don’t even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there’s that.
Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up… Murphy’s law I suppose
No one is doing anything, because we all decided when facists win legally, we must play by their rules of must not do anything about it.
No one is doing anything
Plenty of not-terminally-online people are organizing to resist mass arrests and deportations. Reach out to your local DSA. My Houston chapter’s been great about pulling together legal resources, just for starters.
We could all decide otherwise. That would mean ignoring nay sayers and aligning yourself with only people who share your values.
I dunno, what’s your plan?
Go to the Winchester, grab a nice cold pint and wait for this all to blow over.
Okay. But dogs CAN look up!
I’ll meet ya there in a bit.
Write lots of scathing comments online
I dunno man…are you? I can’t afford to go to prison. I have three kids that rely on me for sustenance and a house. Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently. I’m emailing politicians, trying to make good points online, and protest. I think that’s all I can do right now. Now, if my family is threatened, or I can no longer provide for my family, then we’ll talk again.
I think we’re starting to see in real time why nobody stopped Hitler either.
Joining an armed resistance has a high chance of death. Turns out a lot of people like being alive. I can see why other countries saw a bit more resistance too, when your country voted for it there is probably an impression many support it
The people in power that are supposed to stop this aren’t. AOC is trying to rally people, but not sure how effective it’s going to be yet.
Anything you do as an individual is likely to fail and only make things way, way worse. So you tell me man…what should I do that I’m not already doing?
Nothing. It ain’t on us to fix shit. Our side of things has been broken since before any of us were born.
And the US is about 28 times larger than Germany, making it even harder for people to travel to a focal point of power to resist.
Yup. I’ve seen in my own family. Started in November with the anti Nazi talk. Then around Christmas the Biden whataboutisms started: Yeah but Biden is actually doing stuff Trump started so they are both bad. Now I am hearing the same points @alteon made. Anything to keep from doing the right thing and fight fascism bc I have an early meeting, the kids have soccer practice, well I don’t see any of it so its not as bad as the internet makes it sound, blah blah blah.
Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently.
Woof. I remember saying that back in 2017. Four years later…
Did we stop them from building the internment camps at the border in his last term?
Did we stop the Biden administration from using them once Trump built them? No, no we did not.
Okay now that we agree concentration camps bad, what is your opionion on trump making new ones?
Also bad I expect these to rapidly go from detention camps to work camps.
Yeah, never mind, you know Trump built them. No bid deal great guy.
Does your arm get tired with all those straight elbow salutes or do you get used to it? How hard is it to learn that craze walk you guys do?
Are you accusing me if supporting Nazism because I have an issue with the government using concentration camps?
Do you think you have a moral high ground when you suggest that it is ok for one party to use these camps?
I believe we shouldn’t he deporting undocumented people who haven’t violated serious laws. Do you think differently?
He’s still stuck in 2014 and thinks screaming Nazi at everyone who disagrees with him is going to change people’s minds.
People like that are just using the performative righteousness as an excuse to bully people.
People like that are just using the performative righteousness as an excuse to bully people.
Don’t disagree about the performative righteousness (also appreciate the new term) - but the current admin, many of its figureheads and an alarming number of its supporters sure fetishize the Third Reich. Not really something to be ignored, imo.
Completely agree. We all must take action, but here isn’t a great place to discuss it.
Nah, it’s because I looked at your post history.
Which is filled with antifascism. On the ither hand you are claiming it is ok for one side to use camps. That’s weird.
Nope
A consideration to the ending of slavery in the United States was the advent of photography. Film was used to share the horror of the Nazi concentration camps in WW2 because they knew there would be people who deny history. Israel denied access and targeted journalists in Gaza for over a year for a reason.
Public perception sways from indifference to protests when they can’t look away from the destructive results. It’s the whole reason black sites like Guantanamo Bay exist in the first place and were used to hold extradited citizens without due process for years, they want to pretend the Constitution doesn’t exist and they haven’t sworn oaths to it and will do everything they can to hide their crimes.
@surph_ninja@lemm.ee Just pointed this out. We already see the horror every day. Aint nothing going to happen.
We have had one there for 25 years now.
You just watched over a year of a live-streamed genocide. What makes you think either party is opposed to this? Or that the people will draw the line here?
Already did it. Got the fuck out. It’s not like I can swim to Gitmo.
Yes, arson.
Is there anything Americans could do to petition other countries to help us? ICC or the UN? Or in civil court, could we crowdfund lawyers to sue the government?
The US government does not recognize the ICC. The UN has no power, at most it can sent a stern letter. What could happen is the EU maybe complaining or even sanctioning the US but considering that Germany literally passed an illegal immigration law yesterday(the conservatives with support from the nazis), my hopes are not high.
Human rights is more of an optics(or an excuse) issue, rather than something that governments care about.
Would like to know as well.
America is not a part of the icc any more effectly putting the usa out of reach. Also they were never a signatory to the international declaration for the prevention and punishment for the crime of genocide
Over dramatize it as much as possible making it very easy to satirize.
sue the government?
About that. One frequently looks to the Executive branch to enforce laws, rulings, and other things of legal import. Exactly how does this work if that arm of the government is found guilty of a crime?
“We find ourselves not guilty of any wrongdoing oh by the way the president is immune to prosecution”
shit’s going as planned. what options do we have?
