Former President Donald Trump is expected to surrender himself to the Fulton County jail at the end of next week – on Thursday or Friday, a senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the surrender told CNN.

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    Can we all just stop for a second and appreciate what a crazy fucking time it is to be alive in this country?

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      Absolutely. And in so many way. I’m only in my 40s and I feel like I’m living in a vastly different world than the one I was born into.

      The rate of change is unlike anything humans have ever had to cope with in our 2 million year history.

      For almost all of human existence, there wasn’t even a CONCEPT of progress… no sense that humanity was going anywhere. Your life was virtually identical to that of your great great great grandfather, and would be the same experience had by your great great great grandchild.

      I remember a world of rotary phones, small towns with personalities before chains homogenized the world. I remember how the United States had a whole different personality before 9-11. I remember when Republicans had actual plans for governing (OBAMA’S affordable care act was basically a clone of Bob Dole’s plan). I remember the world before the Internet, when malls were packed and buzzing, when shopping in stores felt magical and not like a ghost town.

      I remember analog and even black and white TVs. I remember the first video games and PCs,b dial-up Internet, browsers before tabs were invented.

      I remember when acid rain was there number one environmental concern, and how we actually accepted the science and made policy to fix it.

      I remember the bugs.

      I remember so many more bugs. The night alive with fireflies. Windshields plastered with splatters on the highway.

      I remember paper maps! FM radio. Cassette adapters.

      The world is so, so, so different. It changed so fast.

      Republicans became a suicide cult.

      The government stopped breaking up monopolies, and started bailing out too-big-to-fail banks.

      The United States tortures people now. People never charged of a crimes were tortured at Guantanamo Bay.

      I grew up in a home that my parents bought cheap. They had two cars. They took us on vacations every year. They saved up for retirement. My dad had a PhD. He did well.

      I have a law degree. I will never own a home. I will never be able to afford even a single vacation. I will never be able to retire.

      They rolled back Roe.

      They staged an insurrection.

      I’ve been working with GPT-4 night and day since it was released to the public. I’m 100 percent convinced that with a little supplementation, it is the first artificial GENERAL intelligence.

      It can already create better writing and code than MOST of the human population.

      Where will it be in 5 years? 10? 20?

      It’s going to be smarter, funnier, more creative, more thoughtful than all of us. In our lifetime. WHY, then, are we even HERE at that point? Why do we even exist?

      These were questions for science fiction. For the future.

      It’s happening NOW. WE, of all humans in the span of history, are the ones who will see our species become obsolete.

      So yeah. Let’s take moment to realize how cosmically, historically insane it is to live in this moment.

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        Amen. And love your first point about how way back, the average person did not have a concept of progress in their day-to-day life.

        I guess that didn’t really start to blow up until Newton laid the laws of physics down (along with calculus - what a guy) to allow for drastic scientific development. Once we had steam engines and the Industrial Revolution…change has become almost commonplace now.

        I too remember paper maps…always in the glove box.

        Having to remember phone numbers.

        Encyclopedias

        No cell phone and no internet.

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          Newton laid the laws of physics down (along with calculus - what a guy)

          Poor Leibniz, totally forgotten by history. Can you imagine inventing friggin calculus and nobody notices or cares? lol

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        I was thinking about your comment and came back. I’m nearly 39 so a similar age.

        First of all. What if you put your phone down, got off the internet and had a look around at your life and what is happening directly in your world. I’ll bet it’s not as chaotic as it feels when we see crazy headlines everywhere. You get up, chat with your family if you are lucky enough to live with someone, perhaps you go to work and interact with your coworkers or clients, hopefully the day isn’t too stressful. Come home, think about what you will have for dinner and hope it doesn’t make you too fat. Go to bed. You might squeeze in some time for hobbies, or visiting friends on the weekends.

        Sure, housing is a massive problem right now, but financial bleakness isn’t new - imagine how it felt to live through the great depression? I’m in Australia, but a couple of years ago we had my son’s birthday at this nice lookout at the top of a hill. There was a plaque there that read that the road to the top of the hill was built by men during the depression in exchange for food to feed their families. The more kids you had the more hours you had to work. It was like 5 or more kids was a mandatory 12 hour day.

        That would have felt bleak and like there was no way out.

        Imagine getting caught up in world war 2? You would think the world had now really gone to shit. It was so traumatizing to the population here that every tiny town has a plaque of all the people who died from it. The names in the list are usually longer than the population of the town right now.

        Then after the war, stuff like the threat of atomic war, nuclear winters and the entire earth dying because of a conflict escalation.

        You described my childhood experience perfectly, but we might have just been very lucky and grew up in an optimistic decade full of rationality and scientific progress.

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      I’ll recognize it, but I’d rather not appreciate it. I’d appreciate it if half the country had never been infatuated with an historically proven con-man with delusions of grandeur. Legitimately one of the must frustrating realities for someone who believes in democracy to grapple with is that half the population MUST be less than average intelligence (and even some of greater intelligence will choose willful ignorance).

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        Oh no, it’s not that they’re stupid. It’s that they’re evil. What Trump stands for and what that stupid-ass cult values is entirely something they’re fully cognizant of and want. Right down to the genocide.

        They just learned to hide it very well. Even mastering sophistry to do it.

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          I second this. Its horrible and sad that so many people are evil, or more to the point, can be led to an evil position which they’ll embrace and defend with all their intellect.

          One of the scariest things about this shift is a realization that this is how countries do horrible things. A mob of excited people can make group decisions, and will follow horrible leaders because, well, because people can driven by emotions and group-think and localized social norms.

          If the current Republican Party maintains its cohesion and membership I think what has been a generational lapse into authoritarian insanity could be a permanent shift in the American psyche. Thats even more terrifying than seeing so many people vote for Trump.

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        Appreciate has two different meanings.

        1. to value or admire highly

        2. understand (a situation) fully; recognize the full implications of.

        It’s can be awkward because they are really divergent meanings with almost apposed connotations.

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          You’re correct. I was being intentionally obtuse to agree about the sentiment, but also further the lament. Kind of a “being funny to myself (and maybe no one else)” moment, but publicly expressed.

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      Watching from this side of the pond is entertaining in a sad kind of way.

      Trump is a figurehead of something above and below him that is a serious danger to democracy.

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        The same ideology that pushed Trump is the same ideology that created Brexit and is trying to break the NHS.

        We’re all in a very dangerous boat right now.

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      I’m having trouble locating a clip, but Patton Oswalt had a bit about a decade ago about the anomie the country felt when Nixon resigned and then got on TV and flew away in a helicopter.

      I feel like Trump finally getting booked will be a similar feeling.

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        anomie

        TILAW: AN·o·mie

        noun: anomie; noun: anomy

        In societies or individuals, a condition of instability resulting from a breakdown of standards and values or from a lack of purpose or ideals.

        “the theory that high-rise architecture leads to anomie in the residents”

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          Best definition I ever heard was the sociology professor that introduced me to the word.

          This teacher, knowing her demographic of “Americans born in the late 80s/early 90s” simply defined it as:

          “You know how you all felt on Sept 12th? That was anomie.”

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          If we’re going though planet scale catastrohpic events, at least sprinkle some comedy in there haha

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        Just wait.

        There’s a looming existential crisis headed humanity’s way that most are sleeping on at the moment because they are so caught up in the present and not looking enough at the implications of the future.

        As we catch up to that future, the relationship between odd behaviors inherent to the universe we find ourselves in and the universes we are progressively building is going to get harder to ignore.

        I think a lot of people are going to have a really hard time coming around to what that’s going to mean.

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      Crazy if you like ultimate inequality and hate for all people especially homeless that can’t afford $3,000 in rent each month.

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      I’m halfway across the world and it’s been a crazy ride watching a country disgrace itself while also tearing itself to pieces.

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        I feel like it all kinda went sideways starting around 2014ish (2016 certainly kicked it up a gear). Maybe I died then and it’s all some sort of 6th sense bullshit

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          It started when the Supreme Court handed the presidency to W despite him losing the election. Once that mask was fully off, so were all the rules.

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    I swear to god if I have another BBQ where I invite everyone, hire caterers and get a custom cake and this fucking turd slips out of his jail cell again I’m gonna flip my shit.

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      Haha I remember a couple months ago at his first arraignment, Trump’s team actually wanted a mugshot for the merch, and photoshopped one up when NY DA didn’t oblige.

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        because I saw yet another thread about how trump is being punished, when nothing has happened to him for the past 4 years. Double impeachment? Big whoop. wake me up when he gets brought down a peg.

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    Trump:

    Look I’ve consulted with our medical doctors, and they’re going to check it, and these doctors, they’re the best in the business you know? Huuuuuge. Hugest doctors that have ever doctored, best we’ve ever seen. Ever. And these are good doctors with tremendous skills. They’ve been studying this new thing that - and I’m not sure if you have heard of this as it’s groundbreaking, tremendous stuff, this knowledge that we have. But they’ve been talking to this Theranos doctor. At least I think she’s a doctor, she has this doctor team and I think she has the knowledge of a doctor. So anyway this doctor has a huge voice, deepest I’ve ever heard, the kind of voice that gets things done. And so I says to this doctor, supposing you brought this Theranos inside the body. Which you can do, either through the skin or in some other way, and she says she can’t bring Theranos into the body because it’s a huge building or whatever because I wasn’t really listening to the details, but she has some things she’s gonna test. And this Theranos stuff she does with her other doctors, it’s the best stuff to help stop prison you know? And she says, she’s done something similar in order to keep out of prison, something she researched with her team to bring a baby inside the body to stay out of prison. Supposing that could happen for me, or for anyone who doesn’t want prison, you know? Are we gonna look into that, if I can bring a baby inside my body? She says she’s gonna test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see conspiracy and Truth, my version of truth, the best there ever was, and I heard that it knocks out things like prison in a minute. One minute, it’s crazy! Absolutely crazy. Is there a way we can do something llike that? Supposing we can inject truth inside the body, by injection or almost like a cleaning? To keep me out of prison. And she says we’re gonna look into that, too. And these aren’t rumors you know, this is the real stuff right here. Maybe you can, maybe you can’t? And again I say maybe you can, maybe you can’t because I’m not a doctor. But I’m like a person who has a good… uh, you know what. I think it’s a great thing to look at. And look, I’m the former president and you guys are fake news.

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      No probably not yet anyways. He is just going to get his mug shot and finger prints and to hear the charges against him I think. Maybe some other stuff. But then he will go home and come back for his trial.

      I’m not a legal expert it’s just already happened to this same man 3 times lol

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        he will not go through processing. he will not be put in handcuffs, will not have his mugshot taken or his fingerprints made.

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        Yeah guarantee that fat fuck will pull a Milosevic or Ken Lay* and die before we can get any sense of closure.

        *I read a somewhat credible conspiracy theory that Lay faked his death, wouldn’t surprise me. I’m not worried about trump doing that though because he’d never be able to lay low with his mouth shut lol

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    He’s definitely gonna try to skip town. Either that or he’s gonna just ignore it until cops physically drag his Cheeto ass there.

    I’ll make popcorn for that day.