Summary

A tourist helicopter carrying a Spanish family of five and a pilot crashed into the Hudson River near Lower Manhattan, killing all 6 aboard, including 3 children.

The Bell 206 helicopter plunged into the water inverted, missing its rotor blades, just over 15 minutes after departing the Wall St. Heliport.

Witnesses described loud noises and parts falling off before impact.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is investigating, and Jersey City officials renewed calls for tighter air traffic safety.

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      Agustin Escobar, an executive from European automation company Siemens, his wife, Merce Camprubi Montal, and their children

      I feel bad only for the kids. The parents were rich leeches who were getting rich from putting poor people out of work.

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        Siemens also makes high speed electric trains and some of the most reliable car chargers.

        Getting mad at a company that automates away meneal jobs because capitalism forces people to depend on doing shit work for the rich in order to eat is kinda short sighted imo.

        Like yeah, if everything had to be done by hand it would put more money into the hands of the working class, but it would also make it harder for them to afford a decent lifestyle because everything would be more expensive; automation offers the potential for everyone to live better, we’re just using it in a system that privatizes the gains into a small pool of wealthy owners.

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          Don’t care

          Corporations should do profit sharing and anyone rich enough to take off from a Wallstreet helipad is better off dead

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            It was a tourist flight to see the city, they cost like $200. This isn’t some sort of billionaire with a private helicopter, it was a family on vacation. Are the kids better off dead too? Wtf.

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            Don’t care

            It’s easy to ignore the suffering of others. Have you spent any time in villages where the richest people live like medieval peasants because the whole town hasn’t had any infrastructure improvements in over a century? “Rich” in those places just means slightly less desperately poor. They’re quite egalitarian, it’s just that they’re all broke together.

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        Yea, somebody missed a step, and someone else did too.

        I have family/friends in different parts of the aeronautical world - the procedures, documentation, sign-offs, and oversight is staggering, regardless of which area: A&P maintenance, refurb, , commercial/private/military, research/experimental, etc.

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      Back in 2018 there was a crash in Canada involving a failed TT strap, so Transport Canada issued an AD about that particular manufacturer’s TT straps. The FAA put out a similar AD in September 2024. A failed TT strap will cause a rotor separation. I imagine that’ll be one of the first things they look at.

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    Yeah, parts were falling off when it came doen but that’s helicopters for you, always just on the cusp of not exploding.

    Don’t get me wrong, it’s amazing technology, they’re relatively safe, and there are uncountable uses for them, but fuck are they are the limits of practical engineering . When something goes wrong, IT GOES WRONG. Best you can hope for is auto rotation to the ground

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    It’s almost like helicopters are dangerous and you shouldn’t be in one unless you really need to.

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      They’re only dangerous if they’re poorly maintained… like any aircraft.

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        Or in windy weather, or with other helicopters around, or with bad thermals…

        Helicopters are 35% more dangerous than planes, but that stat includes small aircraft, which are 10x more dangerous than jets. So they are WAY more dangerous than jets. By hour they are 85x more dangerous than cars, but comparing traveling similar distances they are 4x safer than cars.

        Saying they’re only dangerous compared to any aircraft if poorly maintained is just incorrect.

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      Like any tool, they’re not dangerous unless improperly maintained or piloted. I can virtually guarantee you, this will come down to either a guilty mechanic (or policies governing mechanic activities) or a guilty pilot. This is not a consequence of “helicopters are fundamentally unsafe vehicles, unfit for tourist consumption.” Laughable.

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      Like almost every other mode of transportation, flying in a helicopter is considerably more dangerous than airline travel. But it’s far safer than riding in a car.

      Helicopter travel is, using our metric, slightly more dangerous than mass transit, but we can broadly say they’re in the same safety band.

      Source

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    Agustin Escobar, an executive from European automation company Siemens, his wife, Merce Camprubi Montal, and their children

    I feel bad only for the kids. The parents were rich leeches who were getting rich from putting poor people out of work.

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      Industrial automation… like PLCs.

      They haven’t put anyone put of a job since the age of elevator operators.

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      I’ve never heard of Siemens referred to as an “automation company”.

      That’s technically true but they’re much more into heavy industry. They build power plants, trains, ports and industrial automation equipment. They’ve had to lay off some of their own employees but I’m not aware of any cases of their business putting other people out of work.